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Accent Group Limited (AX1) Earnings Call Transcript

August 18, 2022

Australian Securities Exchange AU Consumer Discretionary Specialty Retail earnings 63 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator operator
#1

Thank you, everyone, for joining the Accent Group FY '22 Full Year Results Investor Briefing. We will begin with a presentation by Daniel Agostinelli, Group CEO; and Matthew Durbin, Group CFO and CEO, followed by a Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Now Daniel, over to you. Thank you.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#2

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to attend the call today. I'm joined on the call today by our Group CFO, Matt Durbin. We will now take you through the results for the full year ended 26th of June 2022, an update on our growth plan and a trading update for the first 7 weeks of FY '23. There will be an opportunity to ask questions at the end. If I can now refer you to Page 2 of our investor presentation, which was released to the ASX yesterday evening. The operational disruption experienced in the FY '22 year, along with the associated impacts to the financial results, has been well reported. In the context of the operational challenges and focus that was required to manage the day-to-day business, I'm very pleased with the continued progress executing our growth plan and initiatives. The Accent business has grown significantly over the past 3 years. Through a period of significant disruption, we have continued to invest in growth and to build scale, customer reach and capability across the business. Group sales, including franchisees, are approaching $1.3 billion. We have opened more than 280 stores across Australia and New Zealand to increase total store numbers by more than 50% to 762 stores. Our contactable customer database has grown by 50% from 6 million to more than 9 million customers. Online sales have grown by more than 200% to $263.8 million, which represented 24.4% of our retail sales in FY '22. Our vertical brand and product sales are now more than $70 million from a standing start in 2019. We have continued to grow our distributed brands and have acquired several additional global distributed brands. The Accent business today is scalable and has future growth opportunities through online and new store growth. Our large and diverse brand portfolio and our new businesses continues to grow. The business today is flexible with proven capability to leverage digital and online to quickly respond to trends through our diversified portfolio of brands across footwear, accessories and now more recently, youth and lifestyle apparel. Our market position of the business is also defendable. Our distribution relationships provide access to global product innovation and exclusive access to product. Our vertical owned brands add to product differentiation and support underlying growth margin. Turning to Page 5, sustainability. I'm very pleased to report that last night, we released our first ever bespoke sustainability report. This has been the outcome of an 18-month journey to define our approach across the core pillars of our people, our responsibilities and our environment. Then within this, so to define the initiatives and focuses for the businesses in these areas, some of the early work that we are most proud of is initiation of the Accent Stamp your Feet foundation and our associated partnership with Headspace in Australia and Youthline in New Zealand, who both play an important role in providing mental health and other support to the youth and key demographies that represent Accent's team and customers. Another highlight is our association with the Australian Sporting Goods Association and their shoe recycling program. We have set up 229 recycling collection points across our stores. And in FY '22, we collected more than 56,000 pairs of shoes for recycling. We're just getting started on this journey with a range of ongoing initiatives underway and new initiatives getting started. I will now hand you over to Matthew Durbin to talk about the details of our results. Thank you, Matt.

Matthew Durbin executive
#3

Thanks, Daniel, and turning to Slide 8. Our total sales for the year, including TAF franchisees, of $1.27 billion were up 11.3% from the prior year. Management estimates that these sales were impacted by around $95 million in half 1 of the year due to a combination of government-mandated lockdowns, which saw more than 400 stores closed for 3 months; and then subsequently, the impact of Omicron in the last weeks of December and into January. Gross margin percentage was also impacted by 190 basis points for the year due to the requirements to move through inventory while stores were closed. Through the year, the company continued to invest in its people, new stores, new businesses and technology, which impacted cost of doing business in a disrupted sales environment. EBIT of $62.3 million is in line with the guidance provided in our trading update on the 22nd of July. Inventory levels at the end of the year were in line with expectations with clean aged stock levels. Turning to digital and online on Page 9. Digital sales continued to grow strongly throughout the year with growth of nearly 26%, and they made up around 24% of total sales for the year. Half 2 saw a significant pullback in promotional activity in store and on our websites with an associated positive impact on average order value as the focus for the online channel shifted away from clearing inventory back to more profitable sales. It was pleasing that online sales continued to grow in total at higher gross margins. We anticipate the digital percentage of sales achieved in half 2 of 19% is representative of a more normal mix of online sales moving forward. Investment continued through the year in loyalty and customer data with the launch of loyalty programs in Hype and Platypus. Coming to VIP and loyalty on Slide 10. Our contactable customer base grew by 900,000 customers to 9.3 million customers. This continues to be the result of a strong drive to invite customers to join in store, along with the impact of our loyalty programs now in place in The Athlete's Foot, Skechers, Hype, Platypus and Merrell. Investment continued in our new customer data platform, which will go live in the first quarter of this year. Moving on to retail and wholesale on Slide 11. During the year, we opened 139 new stores across all formats and closed 15 stores where sustainable renewal terms could not be agreed. New stores continue to perform well, and the momentum in the Glue and Stylerunner businesses, including the new stores in those formats, continues to strengthen. We expect at least 50 stores will open in FY '23, 50 new stores. Wholesale sales continued to grow in FY '22, driven by existing brands and the addition of new wholesale brands, including the brands acquired with the Glue Store business. Sales of vertical owned brands and products grew to more than $70 million and continue to support the improvement in underlying gross margin. Coming to dividends and trading update. The business has announced a final dividend of $0.04 per share fully franked, up 23% on the final dividend last year, bringing total dividends for the year to $0.065 per share. In terms of the trading update, trade for the first 7 weeks of FY '23 has been positive. Total sales of -- over this period are up nearly 49% on the prior year due to positive like-for-like sales, stores opened for trade this year that were closed last year and new stores opened in the last 12 months. Like-for-like sales were up 18.9% in the first 7 weeks. Additionally, total and like-for-like gross margin dollars and gross margin percentage for that period are also ahead of last year and, importantly, are up on the first 7 undisrupted weeks of FY '20. We also wanted to update on some current observations on the supply chain and inflation as they relate to the last 7 weeks. Supply chain constraints have moderated, and delivery performance from our major third-party suppliers has in the main improved significantly. We've continued to action price rises in several of our distributed brands and in our vertical owned products in order to offset input cost price rises. And to this point, we haven't seen any noticeable customer pullback. We remain very focused on cost of doing business to ensure we continue to identify and remove waste and drive cost efficiency. Whilst we have not provided guidance, we want to draw everyone's attention to the previously reported estimate that due to disrupted trading conditions, around $95 million of sales were lost in the first half of FY '22. We also note that gross margin percentage for the full year '22 also due to disruption was around 200 basis points less than the gross margin percentage rates achieved across FY '19 to FY '21. I'll now hand back to Daniel to wrap up.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#4

Thanks, Matt. We acknowledge that there is some uncertainty in both the economic outlook and global supply chain. Having said this, based on the sales in the last 7 weeks, we have not yet seen any consumer pullback and are positive about the start of the year. It is our intent to continue the focus we have had for the last 6 months on full price margins and no lazy retailing. I'm pleased with the progress that has been made through a highly disruptive period on our key growth strategies. We continue to build a defensible business in Australia and New Zealand. Our portfolio of global distributed brands, owned vertical brands, integrated digital capability and a large store network are core assets of our group and position the company well for the growth into the future. That concludes our presentation today, and we would be happy to take any questions. Thank you.

Operator operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] We will begin with the first question from Sam Teeger.

Sam Teeger analyst
#6

Are you expecting to get all the $95 million of sales and 190 basis points of lost margin back in '23? Or are there some other offsetting factors do you think we should be taking into account?

Matthew Durbin executive
#7

Sam, I don't want to you make any predictions around that. So I think it's a factual statement that we feel that we lost those 2 last year, and that was simply because of the stores being closed. So I'd sort of encourage everyone to take their own view of that. But if we experience an undisrupted trading period, right now, we're not seeing any reason why a fair bit of that shouldn't be recovered in both accounts.

Sam Teeger analyst
#8

Okay. Cool. And then in terms of the rollout, you guys are guiding to at least 50 stores. What are the, say, main barriers that you expect to drive this? How many stores have you opened to date in FY '23? And is the slower rollout compared to FY '22 more a function of the deals you're being offered by landlords? Or is it maybe you guys have a bit more of a cautious consumer outlook?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#9

Sam, well, we are certainly driving a harder bargain, I suppose, or deal towards when we're negotiating with our landlords. Some of the things we're also doing outside of opening new stores is expanding some stores where we think there's more growth to be had. An example of that is our Miranda and Garden City. So that's that side of it. In terms of how many stores we've signed to date, I might just refer to Matt. I just can't remember them.

Matthew Durbin executive
#10

Yes. No, that's all right. It's -- I think Sam's question was how many have we opened in the half to date. And it's a -- in the year to date. And it's a handful, Sam. We're only out weeks in. So let's call it 8 stores have opened since the end of June. In terms of the slowing of the rollout, what we've always said is that it's not our strategy to open less stores or more stores. It's our strategy to do the deals that we need to do with the landlords and the demographies where we feel as though we can get a strong return on investment, and we'll just have to see. We don't want to set high targets for ourselves and then have to do deals to meet a target.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#11

Can I also -- Sam, maybe this is another way to answer it. I'm very confident that we will open at least 50 stores.

Sam Teeger analyst
#12

Yes. For sure. Okay. And then third question, I appreciate your strategy is to focus on full price sales. But any comments and color around what the competition is doing right now and how rational the market is? It would be helpful.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#13

Absolutely. The competition, while many of our competitors are still discounting, not sure of their stock positions, but we've taken a view that our stock position is very strong. It's clean. It's the cleanest it's been in a very long time, pre-COVID, if you will. So we will continue on that drive. A further reason to that is that as new product is landing in our stores and our supplier base is getting back to some -- well, a lot of normality, our customers are responding. We're seeing sell-through rates on new product that are better than even some pre-COVID periods. So that tells us that there's no need to discount, and we also have a duty to manage our distribution of brands as they should be. And we will continue on that journey.

Operator operator
#14

The next question we'll take is from Chami Ratnapala.

Chamithri Ratnapala analyst
#15

Daniel and Matt, hopefully, you can hear me.

Matthew Durbin executive
#16

Chami, we can.

Chamithri Ratnapala analyst
#17

Yes. Just a follow-up question from me. I think Sam touched on the store number. I noticed that the breakdown for the stores in terms of banners has not been provided. Are able to talk to this, I mean, which banners would this be -- this number appear to be driven by?

Matthew Durbin executive
#18

Yes. No problem, Chami. I mean, what you'll notice generally in this presentation is that consistent with the theme of not providing as many targets as we have previously in a whole host of areas, we've pulled back on that data, which I know is a little bit frustrating for you guys. But it's a bit commercially sensitive. The easiest answer for that is if you have a look at our big gun banners and our growth engines in terms of the new businesses, you can assume that to get to at least 50 stores, there will be a bunch of Platypus stores, there will be a bunch of Skechers stores, there will be some TAF stores. And we've previously set out a target for where we wanted to be for Glue stores. And then there'll be a handful across the other banners. So that's probably how to think about it, including some new Stylerunner stores. So I hope that sort of helps. But the big guns of TAF, Platypus and Skechers will -- and then Glue will be the ones where most of the new stores are going to open.

Chamithri Ratnapala analyst
#19

Great. And just on the Stylerunner, thinking on Nude Lucy, would that be continued? Or...

Matthew Durbin executive
#20

Sorry, say that again. You just broke up there.

Chamithri Ratnapala analyst
#21

So with the Nude Lucy sort of dedicated stores, I think -- I understand that there is one at the moment. Would that be part of the strategy as well?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#22

Yes. There are some Stylerunner stores in that mix, absolutely.

Matthew Durbin executive
#23

I think you picked up on Nude Lucy as well as definitely Stylerunner. Nude Lucy, we're not talking about yet, Chami. Everyone can go and have a look at the stores if they want to.

Chamithri Ratnapala analyst
#24

Great. And just with 50, are you able to talk to the first half/second half split? Or would this be more a second half story? Or is it broadly across both halves?

Matthew Durbin executive
#25

Yes. Look, anticipating more first half split of that 50, to be honest. So yes, definitely more first half split, and then we'll see where we're at for the second half.

Operator operator
#26

The next question comes from Keegan Booysen.

Keegan Booysen analyst
#27

Team, can you hear me?

Matthew Durbin executive
#28

Yes.

Keegan Booysen analyst
#29

First question for me, just around the outlook commentary on the gross margins for FY '23. You said sort of assuming no interruption to trading. Obviously, the GMs are going to be higher than FY '20 or some of the uninterrupted periods in FY '20. Just can you -- outside of the lower promotional environment, if you can talk to some of the other key drivers, what FX is doing, how much vertical brand is contributing to the margin rise, et cetera.

Matthew Durbin executive
#30

Yes. Perfect. No issue at all. So if you have a look at the table that we typically put in the back of the presentation and also in our financials, we talk about the hedging being at $0.74 going forward. So you can imagine, we're certainly very well hedged for the first half. It's relatively consistent with where we've been. So I'd say currency is fairly neutral. The -- definitely, the pullback in discounting is going to play a big role. And we've now, unfortunately, had to discount more than we'd like for the best part of 2.5 years. And vertical is playing a role. So we've previously talked about vertical product that should be achieving a 10% to 15% improved gross margin on third-party product. And you guys can start to do some numbers as the volume of that grows beyond $70 million, what that might do at a 10% to 15% improvement. We continue the strategy as well of driving our distributed brands, store rollout in Skechers, which continues, more Skechers, Vans and Dr. Martens into our multi-branded banners, margin expansion in The Athlete's Foot through more mix of Hoka, more mix of Saucony, which all come at higher margins.

Keegan Booysen analyst
#31

No. That's great. And then just second one for me as well, can you talk a bit around what the drag has been like for NZ trading and how we should think about the phasing of that, particularly against the comps you're printing now against a weaker Aussie pcp, please?

Matthew Durbin executive
#32

Yes. Sure. So New Zealand is tough and even to last week remains tough. It's been tough for the first 7 weeks, negative comps. And at the -- to this point, we haven't really seen an improvement in the trajectory. Frankly, we don't think we're doing anything wrong over there. Our execution there is as good as it is in Australia or better. We've got great inventory levels over there. So we're seeing it simply as a function of the fact that the consumer over there and the team still have to romp around in masks, and I just don't think that economy has recovered.

Keegan Booysen analyst
#33

No. That's great. And then just last one for me as well. As you approach around 10 million loyalty customers, I mean, your loyalty database is becoming one of the biggest in the country out of the retailers. When do you plan on making the investment to -- on the back end to get the systems talking to each other? And then maybe if you can talk to some of the benefits you expect to generate from getting the loyalty programs integrated and whether that's targeted promotions or lower CAC costs, et cetera.

Matthew Durbin executive
#34

Yes. So that's a really good question. We've been investing in that. That project has been underway for the last 12 months. It's just come out of tests, and we've started to get some initial data from it. It's our customer data project. Some of the initial benefits that we're going to get from that are a real sense of the behavior of the customers across the different banners, the crossover shop between a Hype or a Platypus or an Athlete's Foot or a Trybe. And that allows us to start to develop profiles of customers and actually take them on a life journey through our different banners because we get them at different ages. So that's one benefit. And as we get better at understanding those customers, we will be able to target them better with CRM. And that will allow us to create customer segments, more efficient customer segments. And ultimately, what that means is that you're less reliant on paid channels of marketing. That's going to take some time, but one of our big themes in cost of doing business efficiency over the next 12 months is to reduce our paid digital marketing spend, the spend that goes to Insta, that goes to Facebook, that goes to Google, and try and convert more through our own channels.

Operator operator
#35

Next up, we've got Alexander Mees.

Alexander Mees analyst
#36

Just a couple on cost to start with, please. I'm just wondering, should we be expecting around about 5% increase in your staff costs in FY '23 plus the annualization of the new stores?

Matthew Durbin executive
#37

Yes. Correct, Alexander. Thank you. The -- we're sort of governed in the store teams by the General Retail Industry Award. And indeed, that went up 5.2%. Support office employment costs won't go up that much, but they're certainly going up. So that's a reasonable assumption.

Alexander Mees analyst
#38

Excellent. And then just on leases, just wondering what proportion of the leases have rent increases that are linked to CPI, please?

Matthew Durbin executive
#39

Yes. So we haven't previously talked about that. The rough number is under 25%, so under 1/4 of our leases.

Alexander Mees analyst
#40

Great. And then just finally, apologies if this is obvious, it's been a long week. Just on your EBIT, should I be thinking about an underlying EBIT number of $70 million, adding back the $7.7 million one-offs? And if so, is that the best comp against the $124.9 million that you referred to for last year on Slide 8 or the $117.1 million on Slide 15?

Matthew Durbin executive
#41

Right. That's a good question. The $70 million is the number. So that is correct in terms of the underlying. And I'm just going back to look at the slides here. So I can see the $117 million on 15. And so what was the other slide number, Slide 8?

Alexander Mees analyst
#42

Slide 8, yes.

Matthew Durbin executive
#43

That is a good question. That is a good question. I think it's the $125 million.

Alexander Mees analyst
#44

Okay. I think that's consistent with what was reported last year, so that would make sense.

Matthew Durbin executive
#45

Yes. I think that's right. I think we made -- my apologies, we may have an error in that other slide. We will check that.

Operator operator
#46

Next up, we've got a question from John Hynd.

John Hynd analyst
#47

Could we start on the consumer and perhaps some color around what's happened since April, since the last trading update? And keeping in mind, obviously, the comments you gave around New Zealand, has WA come back? And how much is that contributing to the 20% like-for-like you're doing at the moment?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#48

Thanks, John. It seems to be across the board that we've had positive comp growth, and it's largely about the same. Obviously, we've got much more store penetration in Victoria and Sydney and growing in Brisbane, but it seems to be across the board. But as I mentioned earlier, what we are seeing as we're putting new product into the stores, we're seeing sell-through rates across every state that are as good as I've seen them and certainly as good as pre-COVID. So I'm not sure if that gives you any better color, but we're seeing it across the board. Digital sales seem to have slowed a little bit compared to obviously where they were, and I just think that's just the making of people wanting to get out and simply be out there doing what they did pre-COVID.

John Hynd analyst
#49

Okay. And on inventory, it looks like on a store, if I take your '22 numbers, it looks like roughly, you're returning to normal inventory levels on a store basis. Can you perhaps help us understand where this gets to over '23, keeping in mind, obviously, volatile trading conditions? But you're also -- Stylerunner is becoming a greater part of the portfolio. You've got bigger stores that you're rolling out now. So how does that look? How should we think about that? And also, in regards to '22, can you give us an understanding of perhaps what the units look like versus FY '19 and FY '20 as well, please?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#50

Yes. Look, we have had obviously a major focus on inventory, particularly as we cycle through disruptions. And largely, we've cleaned or cleared any aged stock lines across the total business. In the main, our stores are, in terms of units and dollars from an inventory point of view, are down, are back down to where we would like them to be. There would be a different view from our team, I'm sure. They always want more stock, but we feel that the current numbers are back to where they were pre-COVID. And that's allowing us to produce better margins because the error rate in our buying is simply better. There's a major focus on this area, and we're getting back to, as you mentioned, some normality with our supplier base also fast getting themselves organized to pre-COVID levels.

John Hynd analyst
#51

Okay. So in terms of higher stores or bigger footprints, you're not expecting that to move the dial. It sort of almost implies you're going to be a little bit more conservative with your inventory position for '23.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#52

Yes. Absolutely. Well, look, the inventory discussion for us as a team is a daily or weekly, if you will, review. If you look at our -- if you take our Glue Stores, which are larger footprint stores, stock turns in there are about where we want to see them and improving. So there's a complete focus on, as I mentioned earlier, on keeping our stock levels, in terms of stock turns, in line with what we're projecting. And we're largely hitting those at the moment.

John Hynd analyst
#53

Okay. One more from me, if it's okay. Of the sort of $240-odd million inventory, how much -- I understand that the wholesale stores are in -- within that number. Can you give us some commentary on how you're seeing the wholesale stores, I guess, think about the current cycle? Does this -- I mean, are these numbers ahead of what you're expecting, below? What's the color you're getting there?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#54

Do you mean the growth in the store base or the products within those stores?

John Hynd analyst
#55

I guess how they're thinking about trading, Daniel.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#56

Okay. Well, if you take the Skechers -- our Skechers banners and if you take a look at Skechers' announcements internationally, that brand is growing consistently. And it's not small growth. It's solid growth. New products that we're getting into market are very exciting, and we will certainly be growing the Skechers store base, in many cases, larger footprint Skechers stores around the country. Our brands -- I mean, there's always a brand that's doing better than another one in terms of trend. Right now, we're very fortunate that Skechers and Dr. Martens are super strong. And indeed, we have the Hoka license, which is seeing some very solid trade for us. If you take the Vans business, worldwide, they're off a couple of points, and they seem to have that arm wrestle between Vans and Converse. We've been through 4 or 5 of these cycles, and the brand is just too strong. We're already seeing some recovery from them. So we're very optimistic about what that brand will do for us. Most importantly, we certainly will grow the, call it, the direct-to-consumer through our vertical banners or semi-vertical banners being Vans, Dr. Martens, Skechers and so on. But as these brands do what they do around the world, we're enjoying the sales increases from those brands and trend into our particularly Hype, Platypus and Athlete's Foot banners.

John Hynd analyst
#57

Okay. And just, sorry, one more. In terms of stock in transit of that $241 million, what does that represent?

Matthew Durbin executive
#58

John, I'm just going to have to look that up. I don't have that number.

John Hynd analyst
#59

Yes. That's all right. I mean, if you want to give it back to me later, that's fine as well, Matthew.

Matthew Durbin executive
#60

Yes. I can get back to you on that later. It was about like-for-like with the last year.

Operator operator
#61

Next, we'll take a question from Mark Wade.

Mark Wade analyst
#62

Just want to understand, just looking back at the result you just handed down, why exactly didn't that second half rebound more given the favorable demographics of your customer base and the improved foot traffic generally in malls as that second half progressed?

Matthew Durbin executive
#63

Yes. That's a good question, Mark. It's interesting. Certainly, January, February, March remained quite challenging. And we started to see some lift on the back of back-to-school, but it was short-lived, and I think, potentially, the specter of some of the macro that was occurring in May. But it's sort of anybody's guess. The trade was subdued for most of the half over where we hoped it would be. And New Zealand was tough through that whole period. It's 10% of our business. Western Australia was tough through the whole period. So now we continue to invest through that period as well. So the leverage of costs over the reduced sales certainly impact it. That's the best answer I can give on that, Mark. The only thing I would say is it's pleasing that just in the last 7 to 9 weeks, it's feeling a lot better.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#64

One of the -- I can add a little bit of color to that, too. Obviously, we visit stores daily, including myself and all the management team. And it seems quite obvious to us that -- I mean, the real concern we had is, are we executing correctly in stores? We determined that we were. We did hold -- we did really hold fire in terms of getting out of any discounting, given we saw what our stock positions were doing. So we probably left a few sales on the table there. But most importantly, the last, call it, 10 or 12 weeks, as the stock has been -- as new product has been arriving into stores, our customers are biting, and that's been very, very pleasing for us. So we can't just use an excuse that it was totally inventory-driven. But it seems as soon as our inventory hit stores, that sales just bounced back very, very quickly over the last 8 to 12 weeks.

Mark Wade analyst
#65

That's encouraging. And maybe just continuing that thread, the new Glue concept, you've got 8 stores converted. How do you find the consumers are responding to that format post conversion?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#66

So far, pleased, very pleased with the conversions. If you take Melbourne Central as an example, it's a large footprint store, and we're very pleased with what's going on there. And indeed, legacy inventory has largely been resolved. We're through that traffic. And what we're seeing is that customers seem to like what we're doing in terms of what the sales are of those stores to date. And indeed, we converted another one yesterday with some solid increases on what the store was doing the same time last year. It's very early with the business. But so far, we're pleased.

Mark Wade analyst
#67

Okay. Good one. And just as an outsider, the business has a lot of moving parts to grasp. I mean, there's wholesale and the retail and the franchising, et cetera. I mean, how else are you planning to simplify the business apart from the already flagged the exits of PIVOT and then moving out of Stance and Sperry? You've got that new divisional structure, but I'm just trying to get a sense of what else can be done to better simplify the business.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#68

Good question. That's one that we discuss ongoing. As we've previously called out, our job as a team is to continue to find bullets, as we call them, to try in the market. Some will work, some won't. We've had a good look at the business, and we figured out that anything that's not achieving ROI or ROE, however you want to measure that, we are simply just exiting. If you take the Sperry brand that we have decided not to go forward with, it was actually profitable. However, it's a distraction. It wasn't profitable enough in terms of meeting our metrics. And we have been -- I guess having to simply review where we are getting -- where our investment and our effort is going to drive more EBIT and more returns, and at this point, if you take the brand Stance, which we've called out, we won't be going forward with that brand. And there's probably a few other little ones in there. But in the main, we're through the traffic.

Mark Wade analyst
#69

Okay. And just lastly, for Matt, I didn't come across the like-for-like figures for the year just finished, along with the wholesale sales dollars in absolute terms.

Matthew Durbin executive
#70

Yes. Good question, Mark. We didn't publish the like-for-like figures for the year just finished. They were nothing to write home about. And to be honest, FY '21 was disrupted and FY '22 is disrupted. So they're a bit meaningless. I think the best way to think about it is the $95 million that we felt that we missed in the first half in December. So -- and then wholesale numbers, we haven't split out. They've grown. That's more aligned to just, frankly, providing less market-sensitive information about our business. So that's the reasoning behind those 2. Just while we're waiting for the next question, that question John asked regarding the goods in transit, so at the end of June this year, it was $48 million of the $241 million of inventory. And at the end of last year, it was $39 million.

Operator operator
#71

Next, we've got a question from Shaun Cousins.

Shaun Cousins analyst
#72

Maybe just 3 questions. First, just you're not providing as much detail now, and I get the commerciality there. Is that -- we should read into that there that the ambition around 60 stores for Glue by Dec '23? And I think the Stylerunner aspirations, it's not that you're abandoning those, you're just choosing not to be as generous with your information about your business to your competitors. Is that how we should think about it?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#73

Yes. Absolutely. And yes, it's purely because it is market-sensitive. We're out to grow the business. We don't want to just -- we don't want to hit a number and end up paying -- overpaying on rents and so on. So -- but the aspiration is, yes, to continue on that trajectory.

Shaun Cousins analyst
#74

Fantastic. Great. And maybe, Daniel, just in terms of supply availability, you highlighted that supply is coming back. Are there still sort of constraints? Or do you have as much product across all the brands that you would like? Or are there still -- is there still some product that you're not getting access to such that even some of the strong results you've highlighted to start '23 are still being somewhat moderated by an absence or a lack of product from some brands?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#75

Yes. Look, it's a bit of a mixed bag. In terms of our Skechers business, we're largely back to close to 100% of where we want to be. We've still got some issues in New Zealand with product. We would want some more. But largely with that banner, which is very important to us, it's looking much more positive. There are some brands that are still getting themselves organized. But in the main, we're starting to see some free flow. As I mentioned earlier, if we take our team out in the field, they would always want more stock. But we're seeing that our stock turns are better than we've seen them for a long time. And indeed, sometimes losing a sale could end up making you more money given -- when you take the cost of doing business and so on into account.

Shaun Cousins analyst
#76

Great. And my third question is just around labor, conscious of the labor cost. But just can you talk a bit about labor availability? How much of a challenge are you finding that? Does it sort of see a larger number of open roles? And then do you have to kind of work harder to get access to staff in your stores, please?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#77

Yes. Like everyone, it's tough out there. Our job is to try and do it 1% better than our competitors. And in the main, we don't have any vacant -- well, we don't have any concerning vacancies in the field. Primarily our area managers, state managers and nationals, all of those roles are filled with many of those being -- having long-term tenure with us. We're seeing some disruption in digital and technology and potentially IT. But in the main, we're -- it's not something that is on the #1 priority list for us at the moment. We're largely okay, and I think a lot of that's got to do with the very products that we sell. We're able to still, I guess, attract great people.

Operator operator
#78

Next question comes from Sam Teeger.

Sam Teeger analyst
#79

Just a really quick follow-up. I imagine it's small at this point, but what proportion of sales is coming from apparel? And how does the gross margin you're achieving today compare to footwear?

Matthew Durbin executive
#80

So yes, look, it's still small. It's growing particularly through Glue. When we've previously talked about Glue Store, we've said that business, when we bought it, was about $100 million and it was 85% apparel. So that will start to give you a sense of where apparel is sitting. Apparel margins are around the same as the footwear margins on balance. So a third-party apparel margin is similar to a third-party footwear margin, and then a vertical apparel margin is similar to a vertical footwear margin. So you can see that as probably not too much driving the mix. Yes. I'll just follow up this, Sam. We have also said that Glue, when we acquired it, was significantly below where it needed to be in margin. So there's an overall theme of improving the margin in that business.

Sam Teeger analyst
#81

Okay. And then just in the annual report, when you're referencing Accent Lifestyle, what comes under that?

Matthew Durbin executive
#82

Yes. So that's the Glue Store, and it is also the -- what we're calling the trend vertical brands, vertical owned brands.

Operator operator
#83

Next question comes from [ Peter Richardson ].

Unknown Analyst analyst
#84

[ Peter Richardson ] from Teaminvest. I've just been running a few numbers over your store sales for the last 4 years, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of growth per store sales. Now maybe that's not an important metric. But my question is, should we expect organic growth from your stores? And the second part of that would be, there may be a lag because of the amount of new stores you've opened. So how long would it take a new store to hit normal revenue sort of targets?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#85

Well, obviously, it's an important metric that we look at day in, day out. We have also opened many stores in what you've called -- in order to get the growth, we've opened in some B and C grade centers where the rents are terrific but the sales certainly aren't as high as they would be at a Chadstone or at a Bondi Junction store. But having said that, the metrics still say that the stores are viable, very viable. So we will continue on that path. There is a drive on comps, but we have certainly not seen major, major growth in the market. Indeed, the whole sneaker market has not really grown to the levels that we would have liked, especially compared to 2016 to 2017. But as I said, we will continue to open stores where the metrics make sense, and we're still seeing a lot of that happen for us. In terms of when we will see major comp growth, I really can't answer that question. It's something that we're continuously focusing on.

Matthew Durbin executive
#86

[ Peter ], I might add to that a couple of points. So it is very, very difficult to compare for the '22 and the '21 year back to prior years. And even FY '20, the back end of that was interrupted. So I think we're going to take a good hard look at what happens in FY '23 when we get a full year of undisrupted trading. And for example, for last year, if you're doing those sorts of comparisons, I'd suggest you have to add back the $95 million that we felt we lost in the first half. And you may add that.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#87

Yes. I was comparing '22, including the $95 million back to 2019, and there's been a 10% growth between those 2 numbers.

Matthew Durbin executive
#88

Yes, which we think is okay. It's not as good, as Dan says, as we'd like it to be, but there's some mix in there. Yes, the other piece in terms of the ramp-up of new stores, what we find is that they ramp up pretty quickly. So in most of our banners, they hit their straps within the first 12 months. The only counter to that, that we've seen is The Athlete's Foot, and that tends to take a longer period of time to build because they build the database. Customers get used to the fit proposition, which is the competitive advantage in that banner. And so that can take 24 months before those stores -- or even a bit longer before those stores start to get to maximum volume. Too early to call the profile of the new Glue Stores and Stylerunner and some of the other new banners at the moment. We haven't had enough history.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#89

Okay. I have a couple of more questions, if I may. Your strategic reviews that you did earlier this year, I assume that the Board is involved in that. And was Brett Blundy involved in that?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#90

Absolutely. He sits on our Board, and he had his view on what we're doing and what the forward projections look like in every banner. So yes, in terms of -- he's involved in that high-level area, yes.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#91

Okay. I think he has a representative on the Board. So I wasn't too sure on that, so thank you for that. Just finally, it's a bit of a minor question. You ended on the 26th of June instead the 30th of June. Would be interested, a little bit strange.

Matthew Durbin executive
#92

Yes. No, that's always been the case at Accent. We run a retail calendar rather than a financial year 30 June calendar. So that's something that a number of retailers do. Yes, we could align it with the -- we find that a retail calendar is actually better for us to manage the business, if that makes sense. It's no different to what we've done in the past, [ Peter ], so like-for-like.

Operator operator
#93

Next question comes from [ Tom Camilleri ].

Unknown Analyst analyst
#94

Just wanted to start to think about the ROI benchmarking given the focus. How do you think internally about that benchmarking? Can you help us think about how we should forecast that? And does it differ by the type of store and type of banner, say, a Glue Store versus a Skechers?

Matthew Durbin executive
#95

[ Tom ], sorry, can you say that again? I'm just -- I just want to make sure I've got the question right, apologies.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#96

Yes. Sure. Like how do you think about internal benchmarking, so what the ROI target is internally? Is it just a flat benchmark across Accent? Or do you have different targets for like, say, an apparel-focused store like a Glue or like a Nude Lucy or like a Skechers, for example?

Matthew Durbin executive
#97

Yes. So the answer to that is it is a flat benchmark that we apply across the stores. And the minimum return on investment that we have to drive is 20%. And in some banners, we look for more. But that's -- if I think about just the pure letter of the law we've got sitting in our store evaluation tool, it's a 20% minimum.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#98

Okay. And that 20%, is that a 12-month return? Or what are you looking for there in terms of timing?

Matthew Durbin executive
#99

Yes. That's a 12-month return, yes, spot on. I will also say that where the differentiation of the banners comes in is more sort of above the line, making sure we correctly allocate the costs. So a new business will have start-up costs over a smaller bunch of stores. So in some respects, they get a bit of a higher hurdle because they're getting more costs allocated. So that's certainly where we do some differentiation rather than the return on investment.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#100

Okay. That's helpful. And has anything changed in the CapEx landscape so -- with landlords' contributions? And like how are you seeing the dynamics play out there now?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#101

Not really. It's really been just business as usual as it's been for the last 3 or 4 years. We obviously have an attractive offer for them, particularly in the new spaces. And we continue to spend money on our stores and refit. But in the main, there's really been no change.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#102

So they're -- like as a rule of thumb, they're contributing about 50% still? Or what's the contribution there?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#103

It's a little bit market-sensitive from that point of view. But as I said, it's the same as it's been forever. There's -- it is a partnership, and we coinvest.

Operator operator
#104

Next question comes from [ Hayden Liu ].

Unknown Analyst analyst
#105

Maybe firstly, Daniel, you talked about putting through price rises, and you haven't really seen any pullback from your customers. But do you sort of have a line of sight on how much more there is to go on price rises? And I guess do you fully expect to offset any further increases in input costs?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#106

We have had price rises across, well, a lot of our products, particularly on distributed brands. And the only way I can answer that is we're not seeing any real resistance in our stores. Indeed, we're -- some products where it's especially on trend, there's virtually no resistance. The other view that we have is that because we are also wholesaling those brands, we're selling to our retail base that we supply, in some cases, 3 and 6 months out. And our wholesale orders are largely up in all brands. So therefore, they're quite confident that the price rises will not have any major resistance.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#107

And sorry, do you expect to sort of fully offset any further rises in the input costs?

Matthew Durbin executive
#108

[ Hayden ], that's a hard one to answer, to be honest. So we can only see out 6 to 9 months. So I can say across that time period where we've got visibility, the answer is yes. However, we don't know what's going to happen beyond that.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#109

Yes. Okay. Great. No, that's helpful. And maybe just on the divisional CEO search for Glue and Stylerunner, how is that going?

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#110

It's going. I'm still doing it at the moment and enjoying it. It's still going, and I mean, no real rush until we get the absolute right driver of those businesses. But largely, they're very much in control. So it's just the search is still in play.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#111

Okay. Great. And maybe just lastly, again, on Glue, there was a bit of disclosure in the first half. Seemed to be ticking along quite well. But are you able to give a sense of just how that is going on maybe a sales per store level relative to preacquisition levels?

Matthew Durbin executive
#112

Yes. Sure. So when we talk about momentum being strong, we certainly didn't buy that business to have the sales per store at the same level. It wasn't profitable. So you can read into that, that that's improving. Now those stores were also disrupted in the couple of years before we bought the business. So again, it's a little bit hard to read. But I think you can read into momentum being strong, that we're pleased with their trajectory right now.

Operator operator
#113

And we have one final question from John Hynd.

John Hynd analyst
#114

Might sneak in 2. Just following up on that question -- last question on Glue, is it fair to assume that Glue is doing better than your 19.8% like-for-like?

Matthew Durbin executive
#115

Yes.

John Hynd analyst
#116

Okay. And then contribution -- the contribution that price rises and higher-margin product sales has had on that like-for-like number, are you able to give us a little bit more -- just given the sensitivity in the current environment, are you able to give us a little bit more color on the key buckets, I guess, of that 19.8% for the last 7 weeks, please?

Matthew Durbin executive
#117

Yes. That's harder, and I won't try and break that down, John. I think you can assume that some of it's, we'll call it, price inflation because we're not discounting to the same level that we were last year. And some of it is just better demand and stores being opened. So if you have a look at our comps for the first 7 weeks last year, they were well down. So 19.8% is a big number. However, it's against a disruptive period. So I'd leave it to you guys to try and do your best estimate on that. I haven't thought about the components of it too much, to be honest. We're just pleased that it's a bit stronger than it has been.

Operator operator
#118

Daniel, I'll hand it back to you to close up the session.

Daniel Agostinelli executive
#119

Well, guys, thank you very much for your time. And I'm sure with many of us, we'll be having some one-on-ones and some briefings soon. So thank you all, and have a great day.

Matthew Durbin executive
#120

Thank you.

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