Adani Power Limited (ADANIPOWER) Earnings Call Transcript
October 26, 2026
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Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Adani Power Q2 and FY '27 Earnings Conference Call hosted by Antique Stockbroking Limited. This conference call may contain forward-looking statements about the company, which are based on beliefs, opinion and expectation of the company as on date of this call. These statements are not the guarantee of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Ishan Verma from Antique Stockbroking Limited. Thank you, and over to you, Ishan.
Thank you, Danesh. Good morning, everyone. On behalf of Antique Stockbroking, I welcome you all to the Q2 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call of Adani Power Limited. We have with us today from the management, Mr. S.B. Khyalia, CEO; Mr. Dilip Jha, CFO; and Mr. Nishit Dave, Head of Investor Relations. We will begin with the brief opening remarks, followed by a Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Good morning, friends. Welcome to our quarter 2 earnings call. Thank you for joining us today. Our quarterly results and analyst presentation are available on the stock exchanges and our website. I hope you have gone through them already. Joining me today on this call are our CFO, Mr. Dilip Jha; and our Investor Relations Head, Mr. Nishit Dave. Recently concluded quarter has been another blockbuster quarter for us. Power demand has been strong and power selling rates are high. We have seen healthy volume growth on the same operating capacity year-on-year. As a result, we have seen strong growth in revenues and EBITDA and ended the quarter with a solid profit after tax of INR 7,000 crores. We have also moved closer to commissioning the first unit of our ongoing capacity expansion projects. Now coming to the power market first. India needs abundant and reliable baseload power supply using domestic coal. This is especially important in times of geopolitical uncertainty, changing weather patterns and rapid industrialization. Domestic coal-based power remains vital to India's energy security and economic growth. India's power demand rose 11.5% year-on-year to 502 billion units in quarter 2 with lower hydropower output because of weak monsoon, coal and lignite stepped up supply 73% of incremental generation needed to meet the demand. The average summer PLF increased to 68% from 62% a year earlier. Now coming to Adani Power's performance in this backdrop. We achieved power sales growth of 11.5% and supplied 26.4 billion units in this quarter, and our PLF improved to 70%. This was supported by a high level of plant availability across our portfolio. This strong operating performance delivered record quarterly results. Total continuing revenue rose almost 30% to more than INR 17,000 crores. Continuing EBITDA rose by more than 18% to INR 6,300 crores. This reflects the strength of our core portfolio despite higher fuel prices. Reported EBITDA rose by 46% to more than INR 8,700 crores. Consolidated profit after tax rose 142% to more than INR 7,000 crores. This was supported by strong operating profit and onetime prior period revenue. For H1, total continuing revenue was nearly INR 35,500 crores, continuing EBITDA was INR 13,300 crores and profit after tax was nearly INR 12,000 crores. Quarter 2 was also an important quarter for our corporate structure, financial profile and capacity expansion. Adani Power's credit rating was upgraded from AA to AA+. The upgrade reflects our operating track record, strong cash flows, market leadership, revenue visibility and balance sheet flexibility. We received a letter of award for a 25-year PPA of 1,320 megawatts from Uttarakhand Power Corporation Limited during this quarter. It will be supplied from the upcoming Korba 2 power project. We have now secured long-term PPAs for 62% of our upcoming 24 gigawatt thermal pipeline. We were declared a successful resolution applicant for GVK Energy Limited under the CIRP process. This marks our entry into hydro generation through the operational 330-megawatt Alaknanda plant in Uttarakhand. We are expanding into dispatchable green energy by expanding our project portfolio in Bhutan. We signed a shareholders' agreement with Druk Green Power, our project partner for 770-megawatt hydropower project. The project will be developed through a 49:51 joint venture. It is our second joint development in Bhutan after the 570-megawatt hydro project. We are progressing quickly and steadily on our 24 gigawatt thermal capacity pipeline. At Korba Phase 2, the first 660 unit has been achieved grid synchronization. Commercial commissioning is expected shortly. The second unit is planned for quarter 4 of '27. The 1,600-megawatt Mahan Phase 2 project is also at an advanced stage. Commercial operations are targeted for early financial year '28. Similarly, Raipur Phase 2, Raigarh Phase 2, Mirzapur and Anuppur projects are also under execution. We are also adding the third phase of expansion with a 1,600-megawatt ultra-supercritical power plant at Raipur. This will expand the site to 4,570 megawatts and supply the second long-term PPA to Maharashtra DISCOM. In conclusion, India needs more than 100 gigawatts of new thermal capacity by 2032. Adani Power has the execution capability, fuel logistics and balance sheet to support this growth. We remain committed to reliable, cost competitive round-the-clock power and sustainable stakeholder value. Thank you. I will now hand over to our CFO, Mr. Dilip, for the financial and operational details. Over to you, Dilip.
Thank you, sir, and good morning, everyone. I will walk you through our financial and operating performance for quarter 2 FY '27. I will provide you an update on our balance sheet, debt metrics and liquidity position. As Khyalia Sahab highlighted, quarter 2 FY '27 was marked by intense demand growth, which was driven by economic momentum and a weak monsoon. Peak demand reached 270 gigawatts and power exchanges saw substantial tariff increase. Plant load factor increased to 70.1% in quarter 2 FY '27 from 62.8% in quarter 2 FY '26. For H1 FY '27, PLF reached 74.1% against 64.8% last year. Consolidated sales volume expanded by 11.5% to 26.4 billion units in quarter 2 FY '27, compared to 23.7 billion units in quarter 2 of last year. H1 '27 volume grew 14.3% to 55.1 billion units. Sales under long-term and medium-term PPA expanded by 29.7% to 23.4 billion units, reflecting increasing offtake by DISCOMs. We also have a larger capacity operating under PPAs now as compared to last year. PPA realization improved by 12.7% on a continuing basis, supported by the pass-through of import coal indices and the recent medium-term PPA. Merchant and short-term volume were 43% lower year-on-year as we strategically tied up previously opened capacities under medium-term contract. However, short-term merchant tariffs surged by 33% per unit, capturing strong demand momentum. Our total continuing revenue stood at INR 17,528 crores, which is 28.5% higher year-on-year basis. For H1 FY '27, total continuing revenue stood at INR 35,464 crores, which is 27.5% high. During the quarter, we recognized onetime prior period revenue of INR 2,422 crores. And in comparison to that quarter 2 last year, it was INR 669 crores, primarily arises from revision of the initial energy charges for the Gujarat PPAs for which indexation has been applied in subsequent years. Including these onetime items, total reported revenue for quarter 2 FY '27 reached INR 19,951 crores. H1 FY '27 total reported revenue stood at INR 39,273 crores. Now on operating performance. Total fuel cost for quarter 2 FY '27 increased by 40% to INR 10,229 crores, compared to INR 7,216 crores in quarter 2 of last year. This rise was driven by increased volume, coupled with an approximate 50% increase in the landed cost of imported coal. For H1 FY '27, fuel cost stood at INR 19,769 crores. Our continuing EBITDA for the quarter for FY '27 was INR 6,321 crores, compared to INR 5,333 crores in quarter 2 of last year. H1 FY '27 continuing EBITDA grew by 20.1% to INR 13,304 crores. Reflecting the recognition of prior paid items, reported EBITDA grew by 45% to INR 8,743 crores in quarter 2 FY '27. Finance costs for the quarter were INR 760 crores in compared to INR 842 crores in quarter 2 of last year, driven by disciplined debt and liquidity management. For H1 '27, finance costs were INR 1,662 crores. Continuing profit before tax rose by 32% to INR 4,370 crores in quarter 2 FY '27 from INR 3,298 crores in quarter 2 of last year. Reported profit before tax grew by 71% to INR 6,792 crores. The quarter included a net tax credit of INR 231 crores, which is due to the reversal of provisions made earlier following the amalgamation of subsidiaries with Adani Power. As a result, consolidated profit after tax for quarter 2 FY '27 rose sharply by 141% to INR 7,019 crores, compared to INR 2,906 crores in quarter 2 of last year. For the first half of FY '27, PAT stood at INR 11,886 crores, representing a 91% increase year-on-year basis. Moving to our balance sheet and capital position. We have kept a tight control on borrowings. We are funding our CapEx primarily through internal accruals. We rely on debt only to the extent of any gap between accruals and CapEx funding requirements. As of September 30, 2026, total debt stood at INR 61,860 crores, compared to INR 53,556 crores as of March '26. Net debt stood at INR 45,846 crores as of September 30, 2026, compared to INR 45,022 crores as of March 31, '26. Some of the funds drawn down by us near the end of the quarter are reflecting as cash balance. Our liquidity profile remains strong, enabling us to support our brownfield and greenfield CapEx program, predominantly through internal cash accruals while maintaining conservative leverage metrics. The recent credit rating upgrade to AA+ by CARE Ratings and India Ratings acknowledges this financial discipline, robust liquidity buffers and predictability of cash flow. In summary, quarter 2 FY '27 has been an excellent quarter for Adani Power. Sales volume increased by 11.5% to INR 26.4 billion unit (sic) [26.4 billion unit] with an operating PLF of 70.1%. Total continuing revenue grew by 28% to INR 17,528 crores, with continuing EBITDA expanding to INR 6,321 crores. Reported PAT grew by 141% to INR 7,019 crores. Our rating upgrade to AA+ and the operationalization of our subsidiary amalgamation significantly strengthened our capital profile and structural efficiency. Our organic expansion projects are progressing on schedule, backed by disciplined and self-funded capital allocation strategy. Thank you for your time and continued support. We are now ready to take your questions, if any. Thank you.
[Operator Instructions] First question comes from the line of Mohit Kumar with ICICI Securities.
Congratulations on a very good set of numbers. My first question is on the fuel cost, sir. I think the fuel cost has increased materially Q-o-Q. If I do the numbers, it looks like the fuel cost has risen by 20%. Is there an element of tariff -- PPA tariff, which you expect to increase further in Q3 as the coal cost prices have risen very sharply in the quarter?
See, there are different type of PPAs, and it will all depend on the type of PPAs. So from the Adani Power perspective, if you are talking about from the market perspective, yes, tariffs has to go to some extent up, including the rates of merchant. As regards to Adani Power is concerned, the major increase in fuel cost is of the imported coal-based projects. And most of our capacity is passed through, except in case of Gujarat, it is linked to index, but in a way, that is also passed through. So obviously, it will have impact on the tariffs. As regards to the domestic coal is concerned, per se, the Coal India has not increased any rates, but prices has slightly gone up, because of the quality received in the second quarter because of rainy season, it was quite poor. And normally, when you receive poor quality of coal, the effective cost goes up. And that is the phenomenon which we have normally every year in quarter 2 because of the monsoon season where the quality of coal was down and therefore, the per unit, the coal consumption will go up, but that will not get reflected directly in the tariffs.
My question was, sir, was there an element of tariff -- was the lag in the tariff versus fuel cost for the imported coal-based PPA, which has impacted negatively in the quarter? That was the question, sir, primarily.
So it has not impacted negatively because where we have the tariffs which are linked to index, it is only in case of Gujarat. And in case of Gujarat also the per unit realization was not less than the actual cost of fuel. Yes, in a way, it has impacted slightly because otherwise, our margin would have been higher, it has gone down. And this increase of fuel cost of imported one will get reflected almost after more than 6 months. So it will not get reflected even in next quarter because the indexing mechanism is such that whatever fuel prices has remained in this quarter will not get reflected in next 2 quarters. Probably it will get reflected in the third quarter. So obviously, it will have impact.
And this is the impact of Bangladesh PPA, sir? Is it right to say?
In case of Bangladesh PPA, it has positive impact because the Bangladesh tariff is determined based on the international prices. So whenever international price goes up, it is immediately get reflected in their billing. So there is no question of time lag there.
Understood. Very helpful, sir. My second question, sir, when do you expect the Lanco Korba to initially get commissioned? And is there any site of PPA for Lanco Korba? Or are you looking to sell this in the merchant for time being, yes?
Yes, because our -- the PPA will start after 4 years. And therefore, for next 4 years, certainly, it will be either sold in the medium term or in the merchant. So if you will get any PPA for the medium term, we will get the coal linkage also. And if we will sell this in the merchant, then in that case, obviously, we have to take the coal from the auctions.
Our next question comes from the line of Abhinav with ICICI Securities.
Sir, my first question is on the -- there has been certain reports of the thermal capacity addition getting extended beyond the 97 gigawatt, that's the target for 2035. Just wanted some insights from your end on that particular topic.
Yes, it is a welcome news, obviously, and the Government of India has recognized this. You may be referring the statement of CEA Chairman. And we were also of the similar view earlier also, and that is the reason we have planned very aggressive capacity addition. And this statement gives us more comfort. And let us say, we may have to again think about our strategy of capacity addition. And obviously, this statement is with reference to the -- this time's quarter 2 shortages. But we are of the view that probably it will further go up because we have not started getting the load of the data centers. And data centers are going to be power guzzlers and data center will certainly require the baseload thermal power because when you -- when the data center says that I want to consume the green power, they are only taking the green certificates. Ultimately, reliable 24/7 is not missing a second power can be supplied only by the thermal power projects. So the future of the thermal sector is quite bright and which is obviously reflected in the statement of the government. Thank you.
Understood. My second question is on the other expense side. Other expenses have seen a decline Q-o-Q and also on the other income, which has seen an increase Q-o-Q. What is the reason behind it?
So, other expenses reduction is due to reversal of the quarter-on-quarter basis, the provision of expenses. And other income is due to the mutual fund, interest income, then my -- the FD interest income. So on quarter-to-quarter basis, this time, the interest income from our fixed deposits, those are comparatively lower than the quarter 2 of last year. So this is primarily -- this is the reason in reduction of other income, and expenses due to reversal of provision, which we had made in the quarter 2 of the last financial year.
Understood. So my final question is on the Uttarakhand PPA. What is the fixed charge over there that was signed during the quarter?
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Our next question comes from the line of Nikhil Nigania with Bernstein.
My first question is on the Jaiprakash Power assets, where we hold minority...
Sorry to interrupt you, sir, but your voice is breaking.
My first question was on the Jaiprakash assets, where we hold a minority stake. Just wanted to know if there's any update on that or any plans to take our stake even higher?
At this moment, there is no change. So as and when we will, let us say, evaluate, we'll inform the market. No change in status as of now.
Got it. Got it. The second question is on future tie-ups. We can see a list of states which have ongoing tenders, UP, Gujarat, Bengal, Rajasthan. A, I wanted to check if there is any -- any of these are in advanced stage where we have submitted the bids as well, commercial bids? And b, any plans to tie up in discussion for data centers or C&I customers that we are in?
So your first part is that early dates, in case of UP, the bids are already submitted and likely to be opened, let's say, in this month or early next month. As regards to West Bengal is concerned, the West Bengal one bid of 1,600 megawatt is to be submitted in the first week of next month so far, unless it is extended because of upcoming Diwali holidays. So in any case, but it will happen in the next month. Rajasthan is also, submission is in first week of next month. So again, it is at advanced stage. As regards to Gujarat is concerned, Gujarat is, let us say, preparation is that they have done the bidder consultation, but they have yet to approach the regulatory commission. So they are slightly behind as regards to their level of progress is concerned.
Got it. And my last question was on the nuclear side. We have long plans until 2035. And given most of these assets take 10 years plus to come, is there any update on our nuclear aspirations in terms of land or even indicative tariffs that we are looking at?
I think I forget your second question of the first part. So can you -- can I take that first?
Absolutely.
What was that?
You had asked 2 questions, right? There were 2 parts.
Yes, on nuclear. Yes, yes, just since nuclear plants take 10 years to make.
Nuclear is the second question. In the first question, there were 2 parts. What was the second part?
Yes, yes. Correct, correct, correct. That one was on business development opportunities related to data centers or C&I customers. Any discussions on those lines?
So in case of data centers, we are not signing the PPAs directly. With reference to data center, I said only with reference to demand overall at country level, which will obviously will be met through the thermal projects. The tie-up will be either done with our AESL, the trading platform or probably they may be tying up through the DISCOM. And therefore, we are not dealing with the data center supplies directly. So it is dealt by our trading platform under the AESL. So that's about the data center. As regards to your question related to nuclear power is concerned, the rules and regulation has been -- draft rules and regulation has been circulated for the comments and the process of taking comments from the stakeholders has been over, and we expect that the rules and regulation will be notified soon. So as soon as the rules and regulations will be notified, we will certainly take the capacity expansion forward. At this stage, other than we are waiting for the rules and regulation, there is no other update.
Next question comes from the line of Swetha Rakhecha with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Swetha here on the line for Manish. Congrats on a great quarter once again. I have a question for Khyalia, sir. With lower hydro availability supporting thermal dispatch in the second quarter as we saw, how should we think about coal-based generation, particularly Adani Power's PLFs if hydro generation returns to normal levels going forward?
The normal expectation of our thermal projects to deliver the PLF is around 65%. So because of the lower hydro availability this quarter, our PLF is 68% or so, I think. So this quarter is 70%. The half yearly is, I think 68%. So going forward, our normal expectation is 65%.
I had one more follow-up on hydro electricity in general. Given that we have long-term operating capacity targets for both thermal and nuclear, do we have any such targets for hydro? You mentioned we have 2 new projects in Bhutan and with the new assets that you have in Uttarakhand, would love to know if you have any long-term operating capacity targets for hydro?
So for hydro, Adani Power is as per the strategy of group is supposed to take the hydro projects at international level only. Within the country, Adani Green is supposed to take the hydro projects. And from that perspective, we have already signed a memorandum of understanding with Bhutan for 5,000 megawatt of hydro projects. And out of that 5,000 megawatt, as I stated in my earlier speech, we have already signed the shareholders' agreement with the Bhutani partner for the 1,340 megawatts. So as of now, our target is to reach to this 5,000 megawatt.
Thank you for clarifying. I had one more question on the onetime impact. Just following up on Mohit's question as well. Can we clarify whether we're going to see these revisions in the second half of '27 as well?
Swetha, sorry, can you just repeat your question?
Yes, Nishit. This is in regards to the onetime impact that we have on the income of INR 2,422 crores. Just want to clarify if we're going to see this impact in the second half of '27. Similar, like, if there is any revisions to energy charges for the Gujarat PPAs?
Yes, sure. So actually, the income that we have received -- see, the nature of this income is actually there was a revision in the base rate, the fixation of the base rate to which indexation was to be applied under the revised terms with the Gujarat DISCOM. So this was done with a retrospective effect. And the calculation of the incremental income we were supposed to receive at that -- on the basis of that rate revision, that has now been given effect. And we have received the views from the DISCOM in 3 installments over the course of the last 2 quarters. So we have recognized all the revenue related to the past period on the basis of this rate revision. And all the past period recovery has been completed. On an ongoing basis, the impact of the rate revision is also there in the tariff that we charge for DISCOM. So that is recognized as part of the regular revenue. There is no past period recovery remaining in case of the Gujarat DISCOM as of now.
So Nishit, you [indiscernible] PLF also. It was her question.
Yes. And the PLF that you were actually asking was on the -- for the first quarter, we had 78% PLF. The second quarter PLF was 70%. So the average PLF we achieved is 74% for the first half.
Our next question comes from the line of Apoorva Bahadur with IIFL Capital.
Sir, in your notes to accounts, you have mentioned that there was a derecognition of revenue of about INR 19.7 billion, INR 20-odd billion for this alternate coal compensation claims with Haryana DISCOM. Can you throw some light on this as to why did we recognize this? And now what's our stance on this issue?
So this is relating to the claims which we have raised regarding the domestic coal shortfall. And there are certain issues starting from 2021 to '23 and onwards. And the discussions are ongoing. So at this stage to adopt the conservative accounting principle for the time being, we have reversed that. Though we have received the money, but we want to have a conservative approach unless it is completely settled and 2 parties are at same page, we thought that we should make -- we should reverse it, though we have received the money. So as soon as this issue is finalized and reached to a settlement, at that time, we will give the appropriate accounting treatment.
This was the 50% of total amount which we had received, right, not the 100%?
Correct. Correct. Correct.
50% of the claim.
50% of the claim, which we...
Right, right. So sir, now what has changed in your discussions, if you can just provide us some color that we have decided to provide for this despite receiving the amount? Because I recollect, I mean, our claim was quite strong.
See, there are a few discussions which has happened in recent past. And since the issue is not closed, so as per the advice of the auditors that when the issue is not completely settled, even accounting for 50% is also not comfortable to the auditors. So we accepted their advice. And based on that, we have reversed this. And as and when this is finally concluded, then -- when there is no dispute about that, because when the payment is made 50%, that obviously indicates that other party has not fully accepted it. So once they will fully accept it, we'll make the appropriate accounting treatment.
Understood, sir. And lastly, this is the entire amount, right? Or do we need to provide for anything else on this? Possibly, would we also be providing for interest cost, say, if we have to refund?
No, there may be many other issues. So we don't foresee at this stage that there will be a net outgo of interest because once we will settle all the issues, we hope that things will get adjusted and there should not be any net outgo on the interest part. But nevertheless, we can't say or make any statement or forecast at this stage whether we have to make a small provision of interest or not. It all depends on how and what type of amounts either we will get or in any case, whatever we have got, we have reversed it, though the money is with us. So considering overall situation, we don't foresee much of any implication.
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Bhavik Shah with Invexa Capital.
What I see in your investor presentation at FY '26, the continuing EBITDA was INR 21,000 crores. In H1 FY '27, the continuing EBITDA is INR 26,000-odd crores. We have not added any capacity. So which all capacities have gone in for, say recontracting? And how much EBITDA increase has been contributed by those capacities? Because I think our merchant is only 5%, right? So merchant will not play a major role here. Is that understanding correct?
Your voice is breaking actually. Sorry, we are unable to hear you. If you can repeat your question, it will be helpful for us.
Sure. In the presentation, I'm saying as of FY '26, the continuing EBITDA was around INR 21,300 crores. And as of H1 FY '27, when I annualize the number, it is at around INR 26,000-odd crores. There's a INR 5,000 crore increase in the continuing EBITDA, whereas there has been no simultaneous increase in my capacity. So which all contracts have gone in for recontracting? And what is the, let's say, EBITDA impact from all these recontracting which we have done? So can you just help quantify that?
Yes. So Bhavik, actually, see, the reason behind the EBITDA growth primarily is, if you see in FY '26, we had acquired some new capacity. So although the year-end capacity was, of course there, this newly acquired capacity was not fully utilized for the full year last -- now, yes, in FY '26. In the current year, we are utilizing these capacities fully. That is one part. And we have also signed medium-term PPAs as compared to running these capacities in the merchant market intermittently earlier. So we have been able to get full revenue and profitability at good tariffs because of the new PPAs that we have signed over there. Secondly, we have also been able to get better profitability in some of our PPAs because of, you can say, the tariffs increasing in line with the international coal prices. So there is additional margin that we are also making in some of the PPAs now. In one of the plants that we have acquired earlier, that is the Mutiara or Tuticorin power plant, we have also utilized the plant capacity in a better way because now we have PPAs for both units of 600 megawatts and at a better tariff realization. So there, we have also utilized domestic coal. Previously, this plant was running fully on imported coal. Now we are utilizing domestic coal to the extent of around 35% to 40%. So there, the fuel cost has also come down and our margins have improved. So all of these things coming together are now giving us a better EBITDA margin as compared to the fiscal year '26.
Understood. So sir, this fuel cost pass-through are, say, not sustainable, right? Like in the coming quarters, these can vary significantly, right?
Sorry, your voice is not very clear, Bhavik. Can you repeat that?
Yes, I'm saying these fuel cost increases will vary as per the quarter, right? These are not sustainable in nature, right?
Yes, yes. So actually, see, there are -- we have certain projects, certain plants where we have PPAs, where we are utilizing imported coal. So in all those PPAs, we get a pass-through.
Understood. And sir, when can we see Korba, in which quarter and then Mahan in which quarter coming up?
The Korba Unit 3, that is the first 660-megawatt unit, we have recently synchronized it. We expect that it should be commissioned very soon. So in the third quarter, it should start operating. And the second unit of Korba should -- is expected to start operating by around December.
And sir, for Mahan...
Our next question comes from the line of Kriti Tripathi with NVS Brokerage.
So sir, firstly, congratulations on delivering a strong set of numbers in Q2. Sir, looking at this performance, can we expect H2 FY '27 to follow a similar strong growth trajectory? And also, do you expect the overall power sector to continue its excellent momentum in FY '28 as well?
Yes. So actually, Kriti, we would not like to give any guidance on such granular basis. We have given our full year guidance as compared to the initial expectations at the start of the year. The power market has actually performed better. So obviously, there is an increase -- overall profitability has also improved in line with that. Next year also, we expect the power market to be quite strong given the pattern of demand and the way the demand has been growing. So I think that our expectations are being borne out and the plans that we have made in terms of our capacity expansion are also very much in line with the growth in demand that we are expecting.
Our next question comes from the line of Mohit Kumar with ICICI Securities.
My first question is, sir, under the new bids which are happening for the long-term PPA, be it the UP, West Bengal, Gujarat, or AP, is there a restriction that the power plant has to be commissioned within the state? Can you just please clarify this?
The UP bid doesn't say so, it is anywhere in India. The Rajasthan bid says so, which states that the power plant has to be in Rajasthan. The West Bengal bid mentioned the location itself. So it is location-specific bid, which is basically at the existing -- their existing power plant. As regards to Gujarat is concerned, they have not specified any place. So their bid is also anywhere in India. So Rajasthan is state specific. West Bengal is location specific and UP and Gujarat are anywhere in India.
My second question, have you identified power plant for Uttarakhand PPA? Is the Korba being assigned to Uttarakhand?
Yes. I have already mentioned this that Korba is already assigned to Uttarakhand. And since Uttarakhand power will start after 4 years, so I replied that we will be looking for either medium term or merchant during these 4 years.
Our next question comes from the line of Vishal Periwal with PL Capital.
Sir, out of our 18 gigawatt of operation portfolio, what sort of tie-up we have done for -- with AESL?
We have not done any tie-up with AESL...
Okay. And maybe...
It is entirely with third parties.
Okay. Okay. And maybe for our under construction portfolio that we have with capacity still open. So any tie-up that we have done even for the under construction or it's still not done anything with AESL?
So far, we have not done anything.
Okay. Okay. And I think just one clarification. Probably you did said like the margins were a little lower in this quarter. So is it possible to give a breakup of our EBITDA, which is, say, coming from the merchant capacity charge, energy charge? Is that number could be handy with me?
Yes. So you can connect with Nishit, who is our Investor Relationship Head for all this granular detail on a one-to-one basis. We'll be happy to share with you all these details.
Next question comes from the line of Shirom Kapur with Jefferies.
Just a quick question on your finance costs. You had mentioned in your opening remarks that they've come down due to disciplined debt and liquidity management. But if you could just comment a little further on what has -- are you seeing lower average interest rates or -- because your debt has gone up year-on-year, but your finance costs have come down. So how do we see it even going ahead? Are we -- is it expected to continue to remain at a lower level? If you could provide some color?
Yes. So you rightly pointed out that our debt has gone up. So from the previous -- on 31st March '26 and as on 30th September, this is -- the number is INR 61,000 crores. But at the same time, if you will see the net debt, this is almost flat, same, near about INR 45,000 crores. So the debt has been increased, but we have kept sufficient liquidity in our -- the balance sheet. There is no movement of the net debt in half year. At the same time, you will notice that we have also received the significant amount from GUVNL, which is near about INR 6,000 crores. That also added in our internal accrual. And we follow a very tight control on liquidity management and its deployment. This is very, very significantly, we are monitoring all these activities. So that's why though the debt has been increased, there is no increase in the net debt and due to receipt of all these -- the payment from the DISCOMs, resulting into -- we are maintaining almost the flat financing cost. In fact, there is a little bit reduction on, if you will compare with quarter-to-quarter basis.
Right, sir. So even going -- so this is sort of a steady state that we can see going ahead. Because last quarter, you did INR 900 crores and this quarter it's about INR 760 crores of interest. So is this sort of a steady state we see going ahead? Or should it -- would it rise further from here?
So what you also have observed that though market-linked interest are increasing, but at the same time, our credit ratings are also increasing. So we have now achieved AA to AA+. So due to increase in the credit rating and all these things, we are expecting that the interest cost and financing costs will be on flat line basis, at least what we are putting all these efforts to maintain this flat line.
Our next question comes from the line of Bharat Shah with Bharat Shah Capital Ideas Private Limited.
In the presentation, you have indicated by 2032, 42 gigawatt capacity. But, I was under impression it is 46 gigawatt, unless I've got it wrong.
Bharat Bhai, sorry, we could not understand. What 6 gigawatts are you speaking about?
No, I'm saying in the presentation, capacity buildup that we have talked about from the current 18 gigawatt to about 42 gigawatt by 2032. My question is, my impression was it was 46 gigawatt by that time, unless I've got that number wrong.
Bharat Bhai, the right position is somewhere in between. We have said that it would be 45 gigawatt by that time, if you can see the note in bottom of the presentation. So 42 gigawatt is taking up from the new capacity, 18 gigawatt to 42 gigawatt. 3 gigawatt, we are expecting will be added through the inorganic acquisitions, which you are aware that in pipeline. So that is the way it is stacking up to 45 gigawatt. And it is mentioned in the note below the presentation in many of the slides, even at Slide #12 also, it is there.
Sure, sure. Secondly, our credit rating at AA+, I think, still is lower than where it actually deserves to be because we have not really any borrowing for ongoing operations. Our ongoing operations are more than fully funded out of our internal generation. Our entire borrowing is actually for the new projects. Therefore, in my opinion, given the nature of the business and strong tie-ups and predictability, this deserves to be rated higher than AA+ is my impression.
So thank you, Bhai, for your trust and confidence in our company and analyzing is so great. And we are also taking up with the rating agencies in a similar way, whatever you have said. These are exactly my views also. And in my recent discussion, I gave the exactly this argument saying that my entire borrowing can be easily, let us say, serviced from my existing operations. Even the borrowings, which we have taken slightly for the new capacities, that borrowing can also be serviced from our existing profitability, EBITDA, et cetera, et cetera. And we hope that it will get improved. The rating agencies will accept confidence of our investors like you. And that will help us also -- your -- this statement will help us to take up strongly with the rating agencies that this is the expectation of our investors.
One more thing. What is the peak debt expected in this journey from '26 to '32?
Peak debt, we are expecting that it will be around INR 1 lakh crores...
Which year?
So it will be by '30 to '31?
By '30 to '31, peak debt will be about INR 1 lakh crores. So, roughly 2x where it is today.
Sorry.
Roughly 2x what it is currently there.
Currently. Yes. So yes, you are right, Bharat Bhai. Nearly double what it is today.
Okay. And since Dilip Ji has mentioned INR 1 lakh crore debt is the peak debt, I'm tempted to ask this question. When do we expect the EBITDA to be INR 1 lakh crores in this journey?
Yes. So, Bharat Bhai, that would be -- giving that type of statement would be disclosing or talking too far a thing. So it will not be appropriate for us to make that statement at this stage. I expect that you are a very knowledgeable person and based on whatever PPAs we are signing and whatever capacity we are adding, you can very well do calculation and you will be more correct than us.
I was just being lazy and trying to check, but I can very much figure that out.
Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to the management for closing remarks. Thank you, and over to you, team.
Thank you very much for your continued support, guidance and engagement with us. We tender our respect and gratitude to each of you, and we are looking forward the same support and engagement with us in days to come in future. Thank you. Thank you so very much. Have a great day.
Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Antique Stockbroking Limited, that concludes today's call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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