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ADNOC Logistics & Services plc (ADNOCLS) Earnings Call Transcript

November 12, 2026

ADX AE Energy Oil, Gas and Consumable Fuels earnings 72 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to the ADNOC Logistics 9 Months 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I'll now hand over to Ali Afifi from Arqaam to begin. Please go ahead.

Ali Afifi analyst
#2

Thank you. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. This is Ali Afifi. And on behalf of Arqaam Capital, I'd like to welcome you to ADNOC LS Third Quarter and 9 Months 2026 Results Call. We're pleased to welcome Captain Abdulkareem Almessabi, CEO; Mr. Hugh Baker, CFO; and Mr. Peter Budd, Acting VP of Investor Relations. Thank you, management, for joining us today. And with that, I'll hand over to ADNOC LS team. Please go ahead.

Peter Budd executive
#3

Thank you, Ali. Hello, and good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to ADNOC L&S Third Quarter 2026 Financial Results Earnings Call. My name is Peter Bud. I'm Acting Vice President of Investor Relations at ADNOC L&S. On behalf of the entire team, I would like to warmly welcome everyone, and thank you for your interest in ADNOC L&S. By now, you should have received the earnings presentation pack. And if you haven't, you can download it from the ADNOC L&S website in the Investor Relations section. Please turn to Slide 2. I would like to direct your attention to our disclaimer on Slide #2 before we begin. It contains important information, and we advise caution on the interpretation and limitations of historical data and the forward-looking statements. Turn to Slide 3. Our presenters today include Captain Abdulkareem Almessabi, ADNOC L&S CEO; and Mr. Hugh Baker, ADNOC L&S CFO. I will now hand over to our CEO for his opening remarks.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#4

Thank you, Peter, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Our third quarter marks another landmark quarter for ADNOC Logistics and Service and importantly, demonstrates that the strong momentum from the second quarter has extended into our third and fourth quarters. We have delivered record revenue of $3.3 billion and strong EBITDA of $1.1 billion and solid net profit of $887 million, taking 9 months 2026 net profits to $2.1 billion. And our results predominantly driven by historically high TCE rates and the benefits of investments in vessels which are purchased and immediately delivered to support ADNOC. Today marks our fourth guidance upgrade this year. And with a strong earnings visibility across the business, we are confident in delivering in the region of $4 billion of net profit for full year 2026. This is the result of more than favorable markets that reflects the strength of our platform, disciplined investments and our ability to consistently convert opportunity into profitable growth. And looking ahead to 2027, we remain highly confident in the outlook supported by ongoing geopolitical instability and an increasing global focus on energy security. Security inventory drawdown is likely also to provide further support rates with the next phase of restocking supporting demand for energy transportation. So as we look ahead, we believe ADNOC Logistics & Services enters the 2027 with strong earnings momentum, powerful market tailwinds and platform positioned to capture these opportunities. If you turn to Slide #5. We set a very high standard for health and safety and environmental performance and have achieved outstanding HSE results in the third quarter of this year due to our strong safety culture and commitment to protecting people, assets and the environment despite the very challenging situation that we are operating at. The company reported a record lost time incident frequency and a total recordable incident rate of just 0.12 for the third quarter. Our ability to respond quickly, operate safely and provide resilience under pressure is a strategic differentiator and one that directly underpins the trust placed in us by ADNOC, our partners and our shareholders. I'm also glad to share we delivered a 54% reduction year-on-year in energy intensity, demonstrating sharper operational efficiency as we continue to scale with additional modern vessels. Fleet modernization will remain and will continue to remain at the heart of our decarbonization efforts, supported by dual fuel technology, energy-saving devices and digital tools that optimize vessel performance. We turn to Slide #6. I would like to highlight why we believe ADNOC LS remains well positioned for long-term growth as ADNOC strategic logistics partner. ADNOC growth creates a very powerful and visible runway for ADNOC Logistics and Services. And as logistics is not simply an enabler of ADNOC growth, it is fundamental to delivering it. I want to echo our Group CEO, Victor Soldan Algader, remarks from last week ADPC on the critical importance of routes to make routes to market and advanced logistics. Energy security is not only about having the supply. It is about ensuring that supply reaches customers reliably and efficiently. And this is precisely where ADNOC Logistics and Services plays a critical role. ADNOC strategic logistics partner, we provide the infrastructure, fleet and integrated logistics capabilities that connect ADNOC's production to markets around the world. And as ADNOC expands across oil, gas, LNG, chemicals and rival, the importance of maintaining resilience only grows. Our role is not just to support ADNOC's growth, but to future-proof it and make it resilient. The numbers back this up, $21 billion of contracted revenue with ADNOC and $7 billion of committed CapEx through 2030 across 61 vessels and other investments. So do not view ADNOC Logistics & Services by the current rate cycle alone. Look at the structural growth we are building beyond it. We are deliberately building capacity today for ADNOC Group's growth tomorrow, deepening our integration with the group and securing the fleet its long-term targets demand. Each vessel we acquire is further routing of this transformation. A larger owned fleet and greater earnings visibility from long-term contracts have the potential to drive a structural re-rating of ADNOC Logistics & Services over time. I will now hand over to Hugh to provide a detailed update on the results.

Hugh Baker executive
#5

Thank you very much, Captain AbdulKareem, and thank you to all the analysts and investors joining us today. Please turn to Slide 7. This slide captures the highlights of what has been another exceptional quarter for ADNOC Logistics & Services with strong earnings and a continuation of our disciplined approach to investments. ADNOC ONS delivered net profits of $887 million alongside record revenues of $3.29 billion and EBITDA of $1.088 billion. Shipping across all vessel types continues to be the driver of this performance as we experienced another quarter of historically high rates and continued service to ADNOC. Our efforts and our capacity to support ADNOC also grew over the quarter with important contributions to earnings from 5 newly delivered LNG carriers now contributing a full quarter of earnings and 6 VLCCs, 3 very large gas carriers and 4 dry bulk vessels during the quarter. Building on the exceptional shipping performance, this brings me to our fourth guidance upgrade for 2026. With shipping rates at historically high levels, a growing owned fleet and strong earnings visibility from back-to-back ADNOC contracts, these are all factors driving a further acceleration in earnings. As a result, we have upgraded our full year 2026 guidance to reflect net profits in the region of $4 billion. From this guidance of net profit for the year of $4 billion, you can determine that we expect the fourth quarter to be our strongest quarter of the year with final quarter profits in the region of $2 billion. As we have already seen in our October results and have strong visibility over the remaining 7 weeks left in the year, we have strong confidence in the numbers we are guiding to. So we ask -- we ask all of you analysts that your modeling reflects our high level of confidence and visibility on earnings. You know what number you need to guide to. Moving on from guidance, I can say that year-to-date, we have remained disciplined on our deployment of $1.9 billion of capital expenditure to support ADNOC Group's near-term demand through the purchase of 7 VLCCs, 6 VLCCs, 2 Suezmaxes and 8 dry bulk vessels. These vessels are deploy on back-to-back contracts with ADNOC, which will significantly derisk the purchase price of these vessels. Each contract reflects current market rates adjusted for contract duration and market circumstances. This is part of a total commitment of $6.2 billion of CapEx across 55 vessels committed ahead of expected ADNOC capacity expansion. This earnings call, I will spend time discussing our CapEx because we want investors to understand our capital allocation policy and begin to see how this CapEx will increase our long-term sustainable earnings. We want you to look forward from where the company is now into what we will become. We have redeployed our 2 VLCCs, Azana and Habshan onto the spot market. These 2 vessels were previously on medium-term charters until April and May 2027, respectively. The redeployment resulted in a one-off $105 million early charter termination cost, which has impacted our third quarter results. In addition, we have redeployed an L2 product tanker, Navigate Passion in October onto the spot market. This vessel was previously on a medium-term charter until June 2027. This has resulted in a one-off $25 million early termination cost. These vessels will be deployed to support ADNOC, and we support -- and we expect these spot rates to remain elevated and provide significant returns on these investment decisions. We currently have 2 LR1s, 2 VLCCs and 1 LR2 remaining on medium-term contracts. An LR2 product tanker, Navigate Prestige was returned to us in early November following the end of its 12-month contract and has since been redeployed to support ADNOC spot rates. Moving to our Integrated Logistics segment. ILSP material handling volumes were up 20% quarter-on-quarter and 7% year-on-year, and they are now at record levels. So as ADNOC offshore operations have returned to pre-conflict levels, adding further momentum across the business. However, increased costs due to offshore support vessel chartering and high bunker costs have impacted profitability in this area. Underlying performance of our jack-up barge business continues to reflect near-term softness from selective pricing discounts and softer blended jack-up barge rates. Our balance sheet remains very strong. We have upsized our revolving credit facility from $2 billion to $2.6 billion, and the credit facility maintains the rate of SOFR plus 80 basis points, providing increased flexibility at a highly competitive rate. Our net debt-to-EBITDA stands at just 0.03x, providing ample liquidity for future investments and highlights that despite the significant increase in CapEx spend, our cash generation provides the ability for further disciplined CapEx deployment. Slide 12. This slide highlights our solid financial position that supports our very substantial capacity for growth. Over the first 9 months of this year, we generated more than $3 billion of operating free cash flow and more than $1 billion of free cash flow. Net debt stands at $131 million, and we have $1.9 billion of undrawn credit facilities to fund growth beyond what we have already committed. Please note that as part of the wider projection of net income for the full year, we also project that net debt will be positive at year-end. We have a significant runway of investments to deploy across our Integrated Logistics, Shipping and Services segments, and we will commit only where they meet our disciplined hurdle of low double-digit unlevered IRR. Investing for the future is our #1 priority. As mentioned before, our focus is on what our business is going to become in a normalized business environment. Slide 14. Our investment story continues to accelerate. In August, we stood at $2.3 billion of incremental investment. By November, that has increased to $3.7 billion. This momentum takes our total CapEx commitments through 2030 to approximately $7 billion, including Tas and the remaining 20% of Navigator. If you want to understand that, there is a detailed table detailing all of this in our appendix. And this builds on the strategic initiatives already underway while creating capacity for the next wave of growth. Slide 15. Our vessel investment CapEx program is bifurcated, where immediate group support to ADNOC complements our long-term growth CapEx, which is highly contracted. The first type of CapEx, group support CapEx covers 23 vessels bought and deployed to ADNOC in the near term on back-to-back contracts, which significantly derisks their initial purchase price. Each contract is priced at market rates at the time of purchase, adjusted for contract duration and market circumstances. Our ability to deploy these assets quickly provides much needed support to ADNOC while benefiting from historically high rates in the region. Many of these vessels are now up for renewal of their original ADNOC employment. And in many cases, this deployment is adjusting for the higher rates now attributable to vessels trading within and around the straight routes. The second type of CapEx is long-term growth CapEx, and this accounts for 70% of overall CapEx amounting to $4.2 billion across 32 vessels. These are vessels that are on or are expected to deliver on long-term contracts, giving us significant high-quality income and long-term earnings visibility. In total, we have currently committed to deploy approximately $6.2 billion across 55 vessels. Turning to Slide 17. This is our guidance upgrade. As we have outlined throughout the presentation, this upgrade is once again driven by the strength of our Shipping segment and the resilience of our integrated logistics business as operations recovered and subsequently normalized. Comparing compared to 2025 actuals, we are guiding consolidated revenue up low 100% year-on-year growth. EBITDA is guided up 210% year-on-year growth and net profit up low 360% year-on-year growth. This is our fourth significant step-up in profitability this year. Taking our consolidated net profit guide, you should be expecting a full year result in the region of $4 billion, up from our previous guidance of approximately $1.9 billion. I reiterate that we are highly confident in our ability to guide you based on our visibility on earnings to the end of the year. Our guidance for all segments reflects actual performance year-to-date through October, latest assumptions for November and December, and these assumptions have been informed by current trading conditions and greater visibility over the remainder of the year. As we look through the remainder of '26 and into 2027, we continue to see a supportive market backdrop across our core shipping activities. Longer trading distances, evolving global energy flows and continued supply chain disruption are supporting tonne-mile demand and vessel utilization. At the same time, geopolitical uncertainty and the increasing focus on energy security continue to reinforce the strategic importance of reliable, flexible and efficient marine transportation. On the supply side, fleet fundamentals also remain constructive. Vessel availability across key markets remains relatively disciplined, while constraints on near-term fleet growth continue to support the overall supply-demand balance. Together, these dynamics are helping to sustain healthy freight rates despite continued volatility across global commodity and energy markets. Taken together, we believe these fundamentals provide a strong operating backdrop for the remainder of 2026 and as we move into 2027. While we remain mindful of ongoing geopolitical and macroeconomic uncertainty, we are confident in the resilience of our diversified business model, the quality of our asset base and our ability to capture opportunities as market conditions evolve. We're building ADNOC L&S for the future, not for the next quarter. While historically high shipping rates can influence near-term earnings, our strategy is focused on the long term, deepening our partnership with ADNOC Group and systematically expanding our own fleet to support its growing energy ambitions. The continued addition of vessels is a tangible proof of that strategy in action. By moving early to secure and own strategic capacity rather than relying predominantly on charter tonnage, we are creating a more resilient, sustainable and scalable earnings platform. As this transformation becomes increasingly visible, we believe the market will look beyond rate-driven quarterly volatility and increasingly value ADNOC L&S for the quality, visibility and strategic importance of its future earnings. Given the strength of 2026 performance and our latest expansion announcements, we are reviewing our midterm guidance as we expect these investments to provide meaningful long-term benefits, and we'll update the market when that review is complete. Our near-term capital allocation strategy remains to invest with discipline following the same bifurcated investment strategy I outlined previously. Investors should be highly supportive of this strategy and the benefits they are seeing flowing through into our current results in future periods. As many of you will ask, we will continue to actively look for organic and inorganic growth across both shipping and integrated logistics following our same disciplined approach. While dividends haven't increased this quarter, you are right to expect in the future that there may be a revision of our dividends, which reflects our expectation on the long-term structural increase and visibility we are building into our future earnings. I'd like to finish by just saying that these results have been really related to the magnificent efforts that our commercial and ship management departments and teams have been created for us. And everything is really down to the amazing hard work and the hard work of all our seafarers. Thank you very much for listening. And with that, I'll pass back to Captain. Thank you.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#6

What you are witnessing is a company which is delivering significant earnings and redeploying those earnings into assets, which are delivering immediate returns and increasing future structural growth. Our earnings grew Q-on-Q removing one-off costs related to the redeployment of vessels and will significantly basically accelerate into the fourth quarter. And we are seeing our earnings momentum and contracts extending into the 2027, which should make many of you on the call today more confident in the durability of our earnings, which most of the analyst community seems to miss in their forecast. I will reiterate you all that you should look beyond cyclical rates. Our investment case is increasingly underpinned by structural growth, greater earnings visibility and the long-term expansion of our platform. And we will continue supporting ADNOC's growth, investing with discipline and building on the momentum we have created to deliver long-term shareholder value. Thank you, and we can now move to the Q&A session. Back to you.

Operator operator
#7

[Operator Instructions]. We do have a question from the telephone lines comes from Ram Kamath of Barclays.

Ramchandra Kamath analyst
#8

First of all, congratulations on a strong set of results and on continuing to operate with a high safety standard. I have a couple of questions, please. First of all, on gas carrier, the EBITDA has substantially increased in Q3, but a part of this earning is slipped from Q2. That's what I see in presentation. Could you quantify that timing benefit and indicate clean quarterly EBITDA run rate entering into 4Q as well? And on broadly oil market, oil freight rates have fallen sharply over the last few days, if I get it right, including Gulf of Oman to Northeast Asia route. Although rates are from OH originated inside Barsian Gulf appears more resilient. Does this indicate that the crisis-related rate premium is unwinding? And how are current rates comparing with those assumed your upgraded full year guidance? And any comment or color on the preliminary expectation from you into 2027, please?

Hugh Baker executive
#9

Thanks, Graham. I'll answer the first question on gas, and then I'll pass the second question on Middle East rates to Captain AbdulKareem. On the gas segment, there has been some slippage, obviously, between Q2 and Q3, which has made that sort of somewhat distorted that result. I'm not able to quantify that for you, but that is a significant reason for the sort of uptick between the 2 quarters. I would also add that another reason for the uptake is the addition of some additional gas carriers during that period. Captain, I think...

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#10

I think commenting on the market and the rates and especially how do we view the market, it's important to distinguish between the T4 and the rest of the market. And if you look at the majority of our fleet, where is it concentrated, it is concentrated around the TD3 basically index area. Of course, I think over the last week or so, we've seen some pressure on rates on the TG 34 and the rest of the market. And when we say pressure, it's actually just calming it down from the historical highs. So it's still extremely, extremely high comparing to the norms, but it did come down. We expected this to come down, I think, outside. TG3, if you look at it, it's a much, I would say, softer landing because of the recent attacks and within the SO -- but looking at the market in general, it's still at historical highs. Still there is so much inefficiency in the logistical networks across the globe. Still inventories, if you look at them from just looking at the inventories, historical lows across U.S. So while we may see some ease of earnings or rates, still they are still at historical highs. They did not even come to the highest elevated cycle, which we have witnessed in the years before, still well above these historical cycles. And we think that these rates will continue for the next quarter if there is a solution to this total disruption in the supply chain. hope that just gives you some color.

Operator operator
#11

We have some questions from Zoom. Our first one is from Mohammed Ali.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#12

I just had 2 questions, please. The first question is concerning the gross margin. I just wanted to know why it declined sequentially from 41.3% to 33.2%. The other question I have is concerning the guidance after 2026. Management did guide previously low single-digit growth rate and mid-single digit for bottom line and EBITDA. Does that guidance still hold given now that 2026 is a high base year? Or is that something the management would change?

Hugh Baker executive
#13

So I think any reduction in gross margin during the quarter is really a product of the changing nature of our earnings. We are earning a lot more from direct vessel employment and less from the very high-margin employment, should we say, employment activities related to ADNOC and services related to ADNOC, which were a big feature of the second quarter results. So as we are sort of normalizing our response to the current, should we say, extreme market circumstances, we're seeing that the way that we are making our profits is changing, and that has reflected our gross margins. In terms of future projections, I have to say that, no, I don't think we can really sustain any of the previous projections into next year. We are starting 2027 and with a very challenging guidance outlook. The ability to guide for 2027 is challenging because we -- obviously, there's uncertainty about the events. We can guide for the next 6, 7 weeks and guide to the end of the year, and we have a very high degree of confidence on that. We are not able to really guide much further beyond that. However, I think we can say that we are beginning to see some of the earnings that we're making now, some of the employment that we have with ADNOC and other counterparties that is beginning to carry over into the first quarter. And clearly, we are not going to see a really dramatic decrease in earnings in the first quarter simply because of the carryover effects of the current high level of rates. And also on a high level, and as Captain, I think, will explain, we don't have -- the inefficiencies in the market mean that we don't have expectations that there will be a big fall in the overall tanker markets anytime soon.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#14

Just to follow up on the first question. When you say more business from non-ANOC business, does that mean from nonshipping business generally...

Hugh Baker executive
#15

I can't really go into too much detail about the sort of specifics as to how we're working with ADNOC. But it's fair to say that one of the differences is related to the amount of vessels that we own that we're employing with ADNOC as opposed to vessels that are contracted in the market.

Operator operator
#16

Our next question is from Ricardo Rezende.

Ricardo Nasser de Rezende Filho analyst
#17

I have one question for you, Captain, another one for you. So first one, when you look at that slide, we all the growth plans for the ADNOC Group. And when I try to overlap that with your current fleet and your order book, what's missing? Where do you see the highest growth potential in the coming years and which is not captured on your fleet right now? And the second one is a very specific question. When you look at the redeployment of those 2 vessels during the third quarter, when were the contracts terminated? And did those -- and when did the new contract start? I just wanted to capture on how much were you penalized on the third quarter by the fees that you had to pay and how much you captured on the new rates?

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#18

Thank you, Ricardo. Of course, I mean, we continue basically growth in all segments of shipping. I mean, whether it be in the dry bulk, whether it be in the LNG, LPG and crude and product tankers. And the majority, of course, of the growth would continue to be focused actually in all, I would say, tankers in particular, yes, we might increase our position in tankers owning. But also, if you look at the other sectors, I think it becomes increasingly important. One thing if I would highlight here to all investors here that are here in this room is that the importance of logistics and shipping these days are becoming extremely important and central, I would say, to ADNOC, and I'm sure it's becoming central to many other companies where if you don't own your logistics, you don't own your destiny. And as I said, our Chairman during his opening of APC when he said, while it is important to produce as much as you can, but it's similarly or equally important to deliver these molecules to your customers. Hence, there will be a big focus in long-term contracting with ADNOC Logistics and services across all sectors. And of course, increasing in capacity is a must for us going forward. I hope that answers your question.

Hugh Baker executive
#19

And Ricardo, on the 2 VLCCs and LR1 tanker that LR2 tanker that were redelivered the 2 VLCCs were redelivered in September and the LR2 tanker Navigate Fashion was redelivered in October.

Operator operator
#20

Our next question comes from [indiscernible] is Moab.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#21

I have 2 questions. One is in terms of your -- considering that you have made a significant amount of profits this year. So I just want to know the priority because I know that you have this CapEx plan that you have. But I just want to understand like how do you manage the additional cash that you have generated right now? What is the priority? Is it semi CapEx or pay down some labs, how do you balance this with the dividend as well? Is my first question.

Hugh Baker executive
#22

We don't really have any debt to pass on.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#23

Do you want to continue on questions.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#24

Yes. Yes.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#25

So I think with all this money that you've seen, of course, I mean we do -- we did have before RCF and that was paid as well and we continue to grow from our RCF. But at the same time, -- you might have seen on had, of course, it was public that we have coned basically our acquisitions of -- to grow our fleet. At the same time, I think it was visible over the last 4 or 5 years. that we have been extremely active in terms of new investments, growth vehicles that we have always hired -- and I think this will be used in that front as well. We have always said that our strategy since 2020 and 2022, that will continue our smart growth strategy. And I think -- over the years, we have been delivering these strategies and continuing to grow. If you look at our CAGR on double digits across all the 5 years. So definitely, there's money will be used to continue our growth strategy, continue to diversify our platforms and the successful at. And you will see this hopefully -- okay.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#26

Okay. And second is just now you mentioned that there is a potential carryover of the extraordinary profits in the first quarter. Can I know like can you give some color on some kind of fonts whether you're going to be as strong as Q2 and Q3 or atezo.

Hugh Baker executive
#27

I don't think we're able to do that at this time is as on.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#28

It's typical debt actually. I mean definitely would be many volatile market, I think geopolitical is difficult.

Peter Budd executive
#29

What we're seeing though in the market is a continuation in terms of strength. The rates within the TD3 that CEO talked about earlier on the call, continues to sit given the contracts that we're rolling as well into the first quarter of next year as well, we continue to see strength in seeing a market that is under pressure in terms of rates within the region. So we are highly confident in terms of coming into 2027 as well.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#30

And 1 thing to bear in mind, every time we see a historical high, that cannot be used as the the standard markets come down and definitely, it will correct how products will correct itself. This is something to be seen. And maybe it's just something we see in TGTFT4,how connected slightly in the last 10 days or 2 weeks, people go over, there's a crush in the market. But still, those rates are above and beyond the highest historical cycle that shipping as -- that correction is still extremely high. Never is even at $400,000, $500,000 TD 500, 600. That is something unseen.

Operator operator
#31

Our next question comes from Byzol Alazma.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#32

Yes. Congratulations on the strong set of numbers. Maybe if we can just get a bit more color how to think about numbers on their different scenarios. So I guess, obviously, you've mentioned the changes in terms of how the contracts have shifted and the number of vessels that you have now in Q4 which is almost resulting in $650 million per month in terms of guidance. So how should we think about this particular figure in an environment where day rates come off from the $1 million per day to around $500,000, for example. Should we expect that to have? Or how should we think about that sensitivity? And maybe if you can then also talk a bit about kind of like the medium term, given the level of cash position that you're likely to be at somewhat next year, -- does that change how you're thinking about growing the business? Because it seems like shipping is now quite a large contributor to the mix. Do you feel that there is more room to do more bolt-ons or higher growth CapEx on the logistics side?

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#33

Yes, I think it's a very good question, actually. Thank you, Pason. The things which we will guide you through, I mean, as I highlighted earlier, majority of our fleet is concentrated around the TDI. That's rarely that we are doing TD34 except maybe the bulk carriers that they are basically still sailing at long distance. But all those bulkier still coming and serving clients within the Gulf. So this is the best guidance that you can look at. And some of these tankers not majority of them is actually contracted. And one thing to remember as well that we are not only serving third-party clients within the region as well. So just to remember that we are a shipping company, and we do have our customers across the region here as well. But the best and most relevant index that you will see or you could use is the TDI. That is what we would advise to use. And still, we look at it positive, I would say, in the near term, long term, as we highlighted, even if it shrink, it will still be above the historical highs for the next quarter or so. I think the diversification of our platform is extremely important for us. One thing that I do focus on is the long-term contracted revenue that is extremely important and 1 of the strongest pillar actually in ADNOC Logistics and Services. While we continue on the long-term contracting, we will always but some units on spot market. And I've always stressed on this in our meetings with many investors before that we do like the spot. We will always keep some vessels on the spot but long-term contracts is the majority of our revenues and earnings will be from those long-term contracted segments. -- diversification between shipping and the integrated logistics is also one of the pillar actually to this solid platform. We wouldn't continue basically to strengthen our integrated logistics and we will continue to invest, and we will continue to take it at a global state. And we do have good opportunities for us actually to expand this business, not necessarily just in the GCC, which we are doing, by the way. But we will be also -- and we are actually looking at how do we expand it beyond today. We are operating units across all of the globe today and even in Northwest Europe, we are hiring opportunities in West Africa, Latin America, even in Forest. And hence, why we are a strong believer that diversification is a must for us basically to survive any cyclical cycles that we are seeing in our industry. I hope that answers your passion.

Operator operator
#34

Our next question comes from Abhishek Kumar.

Abhishek Kumar analyst
#35

Congratulations on a very strong quarter. I have 2 questions. First, is on the VLCC rates. So the TD3 tech, which we have been talking about is almost at $1 million, $1.3 million a day, although in the last couple of weeks, the rates which is rest of says has come down by 30%, 40%. So one, the reason for TV3 kind of not coming down, in your opinion and how long it will last? And second question which is related to this is that you have vessels both on the spot as well as on short-term tradition contracts. So you are getting this TD3 index rates or you're doing it at discount or prime or how think about it? That's the first question. And the second question is obviously, I mean, this is an extraordinary period, these earnings would not be the same as rates will come down. But at the same point of time, there's a lot of feed expansion that has happened -- so in a scenario where we say that the shipping rates come back to, say, pre-VOD normals what is the normalized earnings we are looking at versus what it was at that period point of time? Just to understand the the profitability of the business, stripping out the extraordinary rates that is there in the market.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#36

So I think in your third question, which we have already maybe about in the previous answers, but I'll recap basically TD3 is the most suitable index actually to benchmark us along, especially when you look at the shipping side. Of course, there's no discount from TD3. And also bear in mind, not all the vessels are contracted, the majority are contracted. And at TData. But also, we do have third-party cargoes that you can take out of these contracts and do third party contracts or third-party cargo lifts from the adjacent countries. So we are at G3, if not above. But at the same time, if you look at the 30%, 40% drop maybe in the red or the TD34 I would call it, of course, this is a market sentiment, everybody was rushing into the gulf, open for more and more cargoes. I think it's also due to the geopolitical situations and the maybe U.S. election, all of which impacted maybe the other indexes. GG3 remain very strong. I don't think what impacted impacts us most is the SOH situation. Investments, what we have done in the majority of our investments, especially on the shipping side, we've always been very, very cautious in terms of how we underpin these investments and how we look at the returns today -- and I think we've done the wise decision when we invested in those business. And I think we have seen the results immediately immediate results since why we went to the secondhand market because these can bring immediate earnings. But of course, we remain vigilant and focused that this is a cycle. It will not remain forever. Hence, why we always say that long-term contracting is a big focus. Diversification of the platform is extremely important. And most importantly is that our costs within the organizations remain central to the earnings and to the profitability of the business. And this is how we look at it. We look at the worst case scenarios while we maybe benefit from the super cycle these days. But of course, we don't have short memory. We know what's the worst-case scenario that can happen in shipping. Hence, we are prepared and ready for it. But at least we have used this money to grow our fleet, to grow our earnings, to grow our long-term contracting to further diversify our platform. That is the main focus that we are looking at now.

Abhishek Kumar analyst
#37

And do you want to quantify that the growth in the fleet and ultimately in your earnings capacity on a normalized basis?

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#38

No, I think it's difficult to do so now until we are out of this, it will be extremely difficult. But I think -- we've always highlighted that for us that the balance between shipping and the integrated logistics that need to be balanced between us in terms of how we look at our earnings, how we're looking at our profitability margins, I think, throughout the last 2 or 3 years, we have demonstrated that we do have this very good high margins across both businesses and that will continue to remain our focus and at the same time, the long-term contracting where we have more than 50% of our revenue is long-term contracted. And more importantly, is -- you need to take this into account is that NOCs or IOCs or nobody call them producers, will rethink again on how to own assets that deliver their molecules. Hence, ADNOC is very focused now to make sure that the logistics, the shipping remains core as quotas can be to the business. And hence, today, if you look at how much fleet that we have or how much services that we are doing, it can only be further expanding and it can only be there the growing and that's the main focus for us going forward. And we have the biggest support not only Braman, but from our other customers where they have seen the resilience in the platform that we have built, not only for a but only for third-party customers in the region because if you look at no logistics and sales, how we operate, we completely fulfill the requirements from ADNOC from our third-party customers.

Abhishek Kumar analyst
#39

Yes, that's very helpful. And maybe, I mean, I can sneak in 1 more is around dividend. I mean, given the substantial cash flow that is getting generated despite the elevated fleet reinvestment program, you have the capacity. So how do you think about increasing the dividend?

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#40

I will maybe just answer this briefly. This is a super, super cycle. And while we are focused on further investing, growing the business, we do understand that -- these profits will be looked at by investors or by shareholders. But at the same time, you need to look at our activity in the in the market, how we acquired many, many vessels in the last few months. At the moment, we are looking -- we are assessing if there will be dividend incremental in the near future. Our is very difficult to say so when we are just in the super cycle. SP1 Definitely, this will be looked at. Definitely, this will be reassessed. But at the same time, we have -- just remember that last year, we have promised that we have increased it by 20% -- we made it a quarterly dividend after September 2025. And our promise of 5% incremental dividends annual growth that is still the -- but definitely, if there's any near assessment, it will happen maybe early next year.

Operator operator
#41

Our next question comes from Audrey Dong.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#42

Audrey Dong from China Securities. My first question is about the 2 Swiss max acquisitions. We want to know when do you expect to take delivery of the 2 Swiss maxes. And will they start trading in Q4 -- if so, what sort of TCE do you expect them to earn this quarter -- and with the main reason you chose Suezmax over VLCs that the purchase prices were more attractive -- this is my first question.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#43

The Suezmax already delivered. They are already starting to earn basically returns very good market actually. I mean we use, again, the TV I'm not so TD3 or TD, whatever in the Gulf, but very good margins, profitable business, and this is why we've always looked at the second hand where there will be an immediate basically deployment of these vessels. So they are already delivered. They are already earnings, I think from last week on launch. Does that answer?

Unknown Analyst analyst
#44

Yes. And my second question is about the -- actually, the our LR2 rates. Actually, Q3 TCEs for LR1 and LR2 came in above the levels you indicated in Q2. And actually, and for Q4, you've booked about 184,000 for 1 and 75,000 for LR2s, well above what we are seeing the product tanker peers we follow. And it's my understanding that you are not trading for crude oils for LR1 and LR2s. Are those high Q4 rates, mainly driven by shuttle operations within the Gulf.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#45

Within the Gulf region. And when you look at those rates previously, today, it's more -- it's elevated higher. But again, within the gaits a completely different rates basically that we are seeing today at an elevated basically earnings because of the casing and maybe because of the heightened geopolitical risks. Some of the LR2s have been already trading for crude as well as Aframax a few of them already been already trading actually today as Aframaxes, not for projects. So this is how we are looking at the mix -- but again, you look at it from the eyes and perspective of how is the earnings within this area basically. This is the majority of our cat if not all of the LR1s and LR2s are actually in this region.

Operator operator
#46

Our next question comes from San Gains for IR.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#47

Most of my questions are answered. But I just wanted to understand, given the increase in fleet that we have witnessed over the last couple of months, and the longer-term contracts that we are entering into for them. How should 1 look at the overall volume visibility going into 2027? Do we see the increased 20-odd feet to the overall fee add to the volumes come in a similar fashion? Or -- is there -- are there a few of them who are still on spot rate and hence, the visibility is still limited to that extra. I mean, how should one look at the overall visibility for volumes.

Hugh Baker executive
#48

Getting a lot more visibility on revenues into 2027 because as the second quarter has come in the third quarter and the third quarter as we come the fourth quarter, we are having an increasingly larger fleet on the water. And as Captain Abdulkareem has just said, I mean, a lot of those vessels that were previously trading internationally, every vessel size perhaps apart from the MR-size vessels have actually been essentially gravitated towards the trades in the region, and therefore, are trading in the higher the higher rate environment in the Middle East. So we've got more ships on the water and they're earning more money.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#49

And of the 33 -- sorry, I guess the number of fleet that you have planned by 2030 was you already added close to half of them, right? And with this new acquisition coming in, another 20 would get added. So would that be almost reaching to the target of 2030 by 2027 and itself. So that frees up a lot of free cash flow incrementally going in 2028, et cetera. So how would the management look at this free cash flow? I mean, I know everybody is asking the same question and you have tried to answer it in different ways. But -- the fact is there is going to be a huge free cash flow that would come in, given that we have upfronted a last quarter the CapEx of this journey from 25% to 30%. So how should one look at your utilization of the free cash that would happen?

Hugh Baker executive
#50

So Page 24 of our earnings presentation gives a pretty good breakdown of the CapEx deployment up until 2030. I think 2030. I think the way that you need to break it down is that most of the way that we break down our CapEx is we call it group support CapEx and long-term contract CapEx. Now the group support CapEx is vessels that we've been buying this year to support ADNOC. And that is having a very big short effect on our short-term profitability that will eventually affect our long-term profitability as these vessels began trading at whatever vessels, whatever rates these vessels trade on in the future. But in addition to that, the majority of our CapEx is actually going forward is actually related to vessels that we are building and under construction, and that will be put place into long-term contract employment principally with ADNOC. Now the way to look at that is we -- in 2025, we had -- our commercial shipping division had around $135 million of sort of contracted EBITDA long-term EBITDA and that was -- and by 2030, that is projected to go to $600 million with over $600 million basis all of the gas vessels, principally gas vessels, that we are contracting at the moment and have contracted. And indeed -- and included in that is the 6 LNG vessels, which, although we don't have long-term contracts for them, we do -- we are very confident that they will find employment -- long-term employment. And that's certainly what we're contracting them for. So this sort of increasing from $135 million in 2025 to over $600 million by 2030, and that is contracted long-term EBITDA, so that's how you should look at our CapEx. It's bifurcated here's the really amazing things that we're doing with our CapEx right now to support the ADNOC group and then there's the long-term CapEx. And this is having a we have the free cash flow to support this CapEx. We have the capacity to support this for that. I mean a lot of people are asking about questions about can we do this? And what is our capacity? And is yes, we can do it, and we have the capacity to do this and more.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#51

So just to get a number, by the end of 2026, what would be the total count of vessels that you would have inorganic and organic to together?

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#52

Currently, you are just about, I think, for '20.

Hugh Baker executive
#53

Yes. own fleet of 110 owned vessels should be -- that's shipping Coin vessels at the end of November this year.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#54

That's 110, right? And the new acquisition would add to another 23.

Hugh Baker executive
#55

The newer acquisitions are included in that. If you look at the slide on Page 30, it shows the delivery schedule of all of the vessels that we have in our fleet. And as you can see, there is being a substantial, what has been a huge elevation of deliveries of shaking hand and new vessels in 3Q, and it also shows the number of vessels that we're going to deliver in 4Q, both new builds and check on hand. So I'd refer you to that part of the presentation.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#56

Okay. Got it. And based on your current visibility, how do you see the the prices or the freight rates on a day rate moving because it's been quite volatile given the tight situation there in the Middle East. It's moved up to 1.2 million last couple of weeks gone back to some 800-odd levels, but still pretty high from where we used to be closer to 200 an average. So -- is this a new norm with a lot of shadow vessels actually moving out, resulting in maybe instead of it's going to be 500 or that's going to be the new average, given the number of fleets that would be...

Hugh Baker executive
#57

Really reluctant to talk about new averages. I mean, we're seeing even at the very elevated rates we're seeing now, we're seeing huge volatility in freight rates. And so I'm really reluctant to quantify to say that we're going to -- we're seeing and have seen a few weeks ago, probably still the highest rates possible and ever achieved. And the rates have fallen in the last couple of weeks to levels which are still amazingly high. So I think it's difficult to really make projections apart from that we are seeing volatility in the rate, but that volatility is at very high levels. So even when the rates fall, they're still falling to in what most cases would be record high rates.

Operator operator
#58

Our next question comes from Mohammed Al Marnan.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#59

Congratulations on the strong set of results, especially given the challenging competing environment. I would appreciate some additional color maybe on the cumulative impact of the ongoing conflict on your fleet, including Navigate. Specifically, how many vessels have sustained damage since the onset of the conflict? How many remain out of service and what's the expected time line for the return to operations?

Hugh Baker executive
#60

I can answer some of that question. I think that we obviously have publicly reported a number of sort of kits or incidents, and that we reported that I think, almost a couple of months ago. And I think we have reached around 20 instruments. There have been other casualty. So casualty incidents since then, the group put out a press release just yesterday on an incident. There has been -- by the way, there has been an escalation in attacks in the last couple of weeks. So it's not irregular, but quite -- it happens quite regularly. We are very well very disciplined, and we have very detailed protocols to have a deal with these incidents and we've been, I think, very effective in making the transits through the Strait of Hormuz as safe as possible for our crews and for our customers. I don't want to go into detail about how many vessels are out of service as a result of the -- as a result of the tax. But as a general point, I would say it's very few. And there's generally when they have been patched-in many occasions, we've been able to repair the vessels and move ahead and move forward. There have been a couple of instances where damages sustained have been more serious and it will require sort of longer-term repairs, but I don't really want to go into the specifics of that down.

Operator operator
#61

At this time, I'll now hand it back to the management team for any pressing questions.

Hugh Baker executive
#62

I'm going to take one of the questions from the written questions. And then -- any other questions we pick up on the written Q&A, we'll respond to offline. So if you have asked the question, please be aware that we will answer it. I think there was a question about the gas checks and the contribution of the gas ships into M&A sorry, into gas carryout EBITDA. I would say that the gas carriers are mainly remaining on their original contract employment with ADNOC and so they are not earning spot rates, but they are owning, I think, very high or very attractive rates, which substantially derisk them in their purchase prices. I'd also like to point out that I think there's a lot of focus on oil and crude oil and in particular crude oil rate, but gas ships have been earning extremely high rates in their own market are trading at record highs and nowhere else nowhere are they trading at higher rates than in the Middle East region, similar to the crude oil ships. And I think with that, I think we can end the questions, and I'll let pass it back to Captain AbdulKareem.

Abdulkareem Mubarak Ahmed Almessabi executive
#63

Thank you very much, Hugh, and thanks to all of our investors a term of attendant and analysts definitely been, I would say, a wonderful quarter. And it's good to speak to you and listen to you and also answer many of the questions that you had in mind. I hope that we had given you some color, some guidance and where we are and how we see the market market remains volatile cyclical as we understand, it's extremely hard to project. But one thing to assure you that this company has built on a very, very solid platform. It has showed the resilience we still we made and we will continue to remain laser-focused on our earnings, our profitability margins continuous of our solid long-term contracting diversification, a very good balance between the shipping and the integrated logistics. And at the same time, I think we have been extremely well positioned basically to look at how we make the best out of this market. But at the same time, serving our customers, making sure that our staff and our people remains people stuff and safety remains our focus for every day and regardless of what we do, our HSE records and our people safety will continue to be the #1 priority despite how we are looking at the market. Thank you very much to all of you. Have a good day.

Operator operator
#64

This concludes today's presentation. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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