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Apellis Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (APLS) Earnings Call Transcript

September 3, 2025

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Derek Archila analyst
#1

All right, everyone. I think we'll get started with our next session. My name is Derek Archila. I'm one of the senior biotech analyst here at Wells. Very excited to have Apellis with us here for our next fireside discussion. We got Tim Sullivan, the Chief Financial Officer; as well as David Acheson, the Chief Commercial Officer. Gentlemen, thank you so much for coming and looking forward to the discussion here.

Timothy Sullivan executive
#2

Thank you, Derek.

Derek Archila analyst
#3

Awesome. Well, maybe let's just kick things off in terms of just kind of state of affairs. Maybe Tim or David, you guys want to just kind of give us a sense of where the business is today, and then we can start delving into some of the key questions here.

Timothy Sullivan executive
#4

Perfect. So for those who are not familiar with Apellis, it's a commercial biopharmaceutical company that's focused on the complement biology system. And for those of you who are not familiar, complement is part of your innate immune system, it's sort of your original old immune system. And when it's dysregulated, it can cause a number of serious diseases. And so Apellis was founded with the idea of targeting diseases within the complement system, but doing so at the center of the complement system target called C3. And this is the central point of the complement system in the way our drug -- so we have 2 commercial drugs, 1 is called SYFOVRE, which targets geographic atrophy in the eye or treats geographic atrophy in the eye. And then also EMPAVELI, which is for a number of rare diseases we'll discuss in a minute. But both of those drugs have the same active ingredient, which is pegcetacoplan, which targets the central component of the complement system. And as a result, it sort of acts as the either the Swiss army knife or the NVIDIA chip or whatever, exactly in the [indiscernible] system. And is really as far as we know, almost the litmus test for whether a disease is a complement-related disease. So there are tons of drugs being developed in the complement system. And we believe pegcetacoplan is sort of the most effective in the sense that it can treat pretty much all diseases within complement because it -- it's centrally located right below all 3 of the activation pathways. So that's what makes pegcetacoplan different and what makes our 2 products unique. And so we obviously, as I mentioned, we have these 2 commercial products. And in terms of where we stand today, we have 3 approvals, 3 approvals in the last few years, which is a great accomplishment. We have, again, for SYFOVRE, this is a product that was approved for geographic atrophy. It was the first product approved for geographic atrophy and is also the market leader in the geographic atrophy market. And then we have EMPAVELI, which was approved for PNH in May 2021 and has subsequently as of this year, been approved for 2 other diseases of the kidney -- 2 diseases of th kidney, excuse me. First one is C3G or C3 glomerulopathy and then IC-MPGN, which is a related disease, which expands our market by approximately 5,000 patients. These are rare diseases. It's a rare disease drug, both PNH as well as C3G and IC-MPGN, rare disease opportunities. And then, of course, in our pipeline, we have -- we're developing a drug called APL-3007, which is an siRNA, which is being used to also improve the characteristics of SYFOVRE in combination. So we have a kind of a combination of geographic atrophy targeting approach, which we're hoping to kind of increase the durability and effectiveness of SYFOVRE. And then we have some other earlier stage programs, which we'll talk about at some point in the future. And then very recently, we just did a financing deal. It was a royalty deal with our partner, Sobi. They have the ex U.S. rights to EMPAVELI. And we did a royalty deal -- really royalty monetization with them where we added $275 million to our balance sheet. So we come into this conversation with a very strong balance sheet with 2 commercial products that are strong and growing. And we feel very good about where we are. I don't know if you have anything else.

Derek Archila analyst
#5

All right. Well, thanks, Tim. Well, maybe let's discuss the recent launch of EMPAVELI and C3G and IC-MPGN. Obviously, as you stated, it's a rare disease market. So maybe either if you guys want to start just in terms of what are we seeing in the early innings since approval? And how do you guys think that launch will ramp over the next couple of quarters?

David Acheson executive
#6

Yes. Yes, sounds good. Thank you, Derek. First of all, we're super excited about what we've seen for a label from the FDA for both C3G and IC-MPGN, it's a very broad label, and it gives us both pediatric as well as adults in both disease state, which is really, really good. Also, there's post-transplant data in the label for patients that have gone through transplant that could also, C3G patients in particular, could be utilized for those patients as well. So it's a very broad label, which is positive. We're 4, which is a little over 4 weeks into the launch of those 2 indications. And I can tell you, I think things are going extremely well, at least from a connection to the right customers, the KOLs. And there's a lot of interest because of the broad label and what we've seen in our data. I think it's important to remember that we hit what we call the trifecta. So proteinuria reduction of 70%, which is the lead endpoint in the studies. We also showed that 71% of the patients after the studies actually had 0 C3 staining left in the kidney. So that's a very big number and hugely impressive. And we were able to show stabilization of eGFR. And if you talk to a nephrologist, proteinuria is key, but it's not the only factor they're looking for. We cover off on the other 2, which is staining as well as eGFR stabilization. So it's exciting. I can tell you that we are -- as soon as we got the label, we we're in the process of trying to move our EAP patients over, which is going to take till the end of the year. And we're in the process now of getting folks REMS-certified and putting our opportunities for patients to get start forms in and get on the product. So it's still very, very early, as you can imagine. But the news is exciting in the space and we're excited to be able to help patients in the 2 disease states.

Derek Archila analyst
#7

Can you just remind us in terms of the number of EAP patients? And I guess, again, you said by the end of the year, what are some of the factors that would dictate that being faster?

David Acheson executive
#8

Yes, that's great. So in our EAP program, we have 50 patients that are in the process of moving over. The program, obviously, was one of those things that was available for patients because there was a high unmet need. So now what we're working on is making sure that those patients move over to the commercial products. It takes a little bit of time to do that. In general, once a patient is identified and they go through vaccinations in the process for start forms and all of the prior auth work and those types of things that happen in rare disease, it takes about 4 to 6 weeks to move most patients over. We anticipate it will take -- to get those 50 patients moved over, it will take some time into Q4. And at the same time, we've got new patients that are coming into the process as well. So excited to see it, and we'll see how things continue to move.

Derek Archila analyst
#9

Can you discuss the REMS certification? And like how long -- is that mostly just kind of like paperwork? Or like what's that actually entail for some of these centers?

David Acheson executive
#10

REMS certification for a physician is actually -- it's by doctor, and it's actually a fairly simple attestation. They need to read through what needs to happen from a labeling perspective, in particular, the vaccinations for these patients, which there's 3, and then you need to attest to the fact that the patient is indicated in the process of the label and that they're being vaccinated or have been vaccinated and then they sign off on it. So it takes 15 to 20 minutes. It's actually not that hard. The work really comes into start forms and working with the payer and the specialty pharmacy and all of the logistics with the patients. So that's really where the work is.

Derek Archila analyst
#11

Got you. And can you just remind us in terms of that vaccine requirement. Obviously, this is something that EMPAVELI had prior with PNH as well. But typically, what's the length in terms of getting those vaccines. And I guess, I think a lot of people are trying to understand, is there going to be a bolus of patients that just come on beyond the EAP? And is there really kind of a slight waiting period because of the vaccination requirement here?

David Acheson executive
#12

Yes. No worries. Let me address the vaccination process first. So there's 3 vaccinations that every patient needs to have, one of which is meningitis that has 2 vaccinations that have to occur. We -- in our label, as long as you've been vaccinated for influenza B strep pneumo and the first meningitis injection or vaccination, 2 weeks post those injections or those vaccinations, a patient can start product. And they can also go on prophylactic oral antibiotics, if that's what's needed, especially for the distance between the first and second injection for meningitis. So that in a nutshell is kind of how that works, right? And that's super important because we obviously -- it's a safety event that we want to keep from happening. And that process takes a little bit of time, and we can help facilitate that through our specialty pharmacy and through processes that we have in place. So we can speed that process up if a patient is having a hard time finding a way to get vaccinated and we can work with their offices and their physicians to do that. And once that's done, then the start forms go in, all the information is sent into the specialty pharmacy, and then it just takes time with the payers and what processes and logistics to make sure we get the patients, the product within the window of time that -- and is paid for by a payer, okay? From a bolus perspective or what we see for patient uptake, I definitely, I think, Derek, one of the things that you're going to find in any space like this that hasn't had a lot of options until recently they had no options, right, these patients are being -- are they waiting. We've got some patient advocates that we work with to help educate our internal teams as well as some work that they do externally for us. And they've been anxiously waiting for a product like this to come through that will keep them from actually going to dialysis or post potentially transplant. So it's super important to them. So I do anticipate like any disease like that, that you're going to have some bolus of patients that come through in the front end of the launch. But we anticipate that it's going to be a typical ultra-rare disease launch. After that where you're going to see nice, good, steady growth. There's about 5,000 patients that we see in the U.S. And all of them, for the most part, should qualify for treatment depends on where they are in their treatment kind of processes in the disease state. But at some point, they should all be educated at least on the product and the availability of it.

Derek Archila analyst
#13

Would you see any like centers of excellence or kind of KOLs start to vaccinate and prepare these patients prior to approval, like just assuming that it would get approved because of the data?

David Acheson executive
#14

Sure. Yes. We actually had a number of REMS enrollments that came through from physicians before we actually had approval. All of our EAP patients for the most part were vaccinated because they're on product, and we had some patients that were already starting to go through the process to be able to get connected to the physician and to education on the product before the label was actually available. So all of that started to happen early on, and it continues as now that we're launching as well.

Derek Archila analyst
#15

Got you. I guess do you think of the 2 opportunities different like pre post transplant, obviously, like adult children like pediatrics, how do you think about kind of all these opportunities and ultimately like where physicians see kind of the greatest unmet need?

David Acheson executive
#16

Yes. It's interesting you asked that because if you go through our label, you can see pediatric patients for C3G. You can see adult patients for C3G, IC-MPGN. You can see post-transplant patients for C3G for adults. You've got the whole gamut, right? Probably the most -- the 2 areas of the highest unmet need that we're interested in and have concerted efforts around is to make sure that the pediatric patient nephrologists are well educated and know about this product early because that's a super high unmet need with kids, right, that are potentially in a situation where over their lifetime, they end up having to have a transplant or certainly go to dialysis if this thing is not taken care of. So that's one. And then post-transplant patients because one of the things that we know is that in a post-transplant patient, 90% of these patients within 30 days see recurrence of staining of C3 in the new kidney, which, because it's a genetic disease, it's always going to reoccur, right? So those patients should be high unmet-need patients, they are high-unmet patients with some urgency to make sure that, that group of physicians is also well trained on the product, so they know how to identify when and how to put patients through the process to get to product and treatment. And then the rest of it is C3G patients that are adults, which are super important, but a little better understood on how to manage because they've been adults with the disease for quite some time. And now they have options to be treated that they didn't have before.

Derek Archila analyst
#17

Now that you're in the market, like what are you seeing from Novartis in terms of iptacopan like any sort of counter detailing. Obviously, you have a more extensive label. So like maybe you could just give us some of the dynamics as you see it a couple of weeks in the launch.

David Acheson executive
#18

Yes. So look, I think one of the biggest advantages we have is our label because of the broad spectrum number of patients and the age range that we can treat, right, for both indications, which really separates us. What we get told by physicians and by the KOLs is what we'll separate us is the efficacy. I think it goes along with those broad indications, which we can see in those 3 areas I talked about, which is proteinuria, C3 staining reduction and eGFR stabilization, and they're super tuned in to the fact that we can bring them all 3, and that's not necessarily the case in other situations, right? I think the other thing that's super important is most people would say, we've got an oral versus what would be a subcu injectable product. We have a very easy-to-use wearable device that goes on when the patients use it, they get dosed twice a week. They put the device on, they hit the button, they never see a needle and the product delivers -- the device delivers the product over a window of time of about 30 minutes, right? Oral has to be taken twice a day. And so there's areas there where the physicians are saying 2 things. Efficacy will always outweigh the path that the patients will take the product. And the second thing is they're very intrigued with the fact that we've got something that's simple to use for these patients with the product that can treat these diseases.

Derek Archila analyst
#19

How important is compliance? I mean, you just kind of maybe outline that a little bit, but maybe just in terms of both of those, like if you miss a dose of iptacopan, is that a major issue relative to -- for this type of disease?

David Acheson executive
#20

Look, I think in these disease states, these patients have been living with these situations in the nephrology space for their lives, right, at least since they've been diagnosed. Obviously, the best thing to do is to stay on treatment and make sure that they can continuously be treated. If they happen to miss a dose actually in these disease states, they can go right back to treatment. For us, though, the good thing is that we've got -- we know that it's a lot fewer times that they have to take this product. Twice a week is significantly different than what you'll see patient compliance when you have to take it twice a day.

Derek Archila analyst
#21

Got you. So maybe just a higher level question in terms of just the market opportunity here. I think there's a debate whether is this very niche and small, a couple of hundred million, to -- could be $1 billion plus. I guess how do you guys think about this market opportunity? And what peak penetration could really look like across C3G and IC-MPGN?

David Acheson executive
#22

So I think if you take -- I'm actually going to add PNH into it, too, right? So you had in PNH, you have C3G and IC-MPGN. We absolutely believe we have a blockbuster product. If you take a look at the 5,000 patients that are out there, they're diagnosed through -- all of them are diagnosed through a biopsy. So we know that those patients exist, especially on C3G because the ICD-10 code exists for us to be able to track. IC-MPGN is actually an epi model to get to that. And so we've got some learning to do, right, on the number of patients that exist now that there's a treatment out there like this that can actually modify the disease versus treat the symptoms. We actually think there's probably more patients that could surface as diagnosed moving forward, which is typical in most rare disease situations where there haven't been options before. So we're very confident in the 5,000 patients. We think there's probably more out there that could come to the table at some point in time as a result of a product that can treat what their needs are that wasn't there until recently.

Derek Archila analyst
#23

Got you. And how do you think about EMPAVELI's broader across the 3 indications in terms of IP life cycle management. Is this something that's kind of on the radar? I think the patents are up in like, I don't know, late 20s or early 30s, but finite like nonetheless. But how do you kind of think about that, given that you want to continue to expand in some other renal indications based on the data you've seen?

Timothy Sullivan executive
#24

Sure. So from a patent perspective, the composition matter is depending on the geography is 2032, 2033, but with customer extensions 2034, 2035. So we feel very good about the patent life. We also -- when we started our next 2 clinical studies, our pivotal studies for EMPAVELI, we looked at patent life and said, okay, we want to have these things be ready for approval by 2030. So that was sort of the impetus for us when we were looking at FSGS and DGF. So we thought that was the appropriate time frame, and we're continuing to look at life cycle management opportunities.

Derek Archila analyst
#25

Got you. Okay. Maybe just shift gears to SYFOVRE for a bit. Just where are we in terms of like kind of stabilization? Last quarter, it seems like, again, some modest growth there, and maybe the business is stabilizing. Do you feel like you finally kind of done that? Or do we still need to kind of look out a couple more quarters before we feel like that business is kind of starting to grow off that base modestly?

David Acheson executive
#26

Yes. So look, I'm excited about SYFOVRE. I think one of the things that we've been through is a bit of a roller coaster ride with the brand, right, in the last couple of years. And I think we're through a big part of that. We came out of ASRS and I felt really positive that the storyline there was about efficacy, it's about real-world data. It's about the things that patients and physicians are seeing with the product because we've got patients today now, Derek, they've been on product for 4 years, right? So the amount of tissue that can actually be saved in that 4-year period of time after they started patients early and they've kept them on for a long period of time is very substantial. So that's a great story for us. And I'm excited about what the brand can do for patients. I think at the end of the day, it's still important for us to know that this is a space that we're still continuing to build out. There's lots of room for growth that takes a lot of disease state education still. There's a lot of work that needs to happen in offices where patients currently exist, not to mention the referral processes. And I think what we've put out for guidance is that low to mid-single-digit growth is something that can get us where we want to go and can hopefully be consistent on the injection side is what we're looking for. So -- but I will tell you, I think coming out of the last couple of meetings, in particular, ASRS, I'm excited about the brand, and I'm excited about what we're starting to see for some really positive real-world data that I think can help us long term.

Timothy Sullivan executive
#27

I would echo that. I would say that the franchise has finally hit sort of that stabilization after that tumultuous period. We feel very good about that stabilization. But in terms of the things that are going to kind of push growth to that next level, those are kind of in the next kind of the 12-month time frame. Those things include like the prefilled syringe and some of the technologies that we use to help -- we're going to use to help patients, physicians and caregivers understand the value of treating the disease, which I think is a missing piece of that dialogue right now because, as you know, it isn't one of those things where you see the effect right away, right? It's one of those things you have to have a little bit of faith in and it's much easier when you can apply certain technologies to help people see the benefit over time and what it means to treat or not treat. And once people can really understand that, the decision is very easy to treat.

Derek Archila analyst
#28

What have you seen like tangibly from maybe ASRS or some of these meetings where you guys are highlighting some additional data with some physicians or groups of physicians that has it really to change their prescribing or increase it? Or I guess, again, give us some maybe anecdotes in terms of like what you're seeing on the ground from -- that's a result of some of this or more recent data.

David Acheson executive
#29

Yes. No, I think it's great. So look, let me just make sure everyone remembers where we sit in the marketplace. We are definitely the market leader. And in every market or every metric that we look at in all the markers, we lead the market and market share, new-to-brand, revenue, all of the things that you can look at as far as metrics we lead. I think it's important to know that when we left Q2, we were running in the 55% range on new-to-brand prescriptions, and we own over 60% in regards to [ TRxs ]. So as a market leader, I think we should feel good about that. I think what we're starting to hear now is when you -- and I'll go reflect back on ASRS, it is clear when you talk to physicians, they know that we have high efficacious product. And in comparison to the competitor, they know that our product has robust data that can help them make decisions for their patients and do the right things. And that 4 years, that 48 months of data from the GALE study helps them understand what can happen after someone has been on the product for a period of time in regards to tissue preservation. Nobody else can talk about that data. And our competition will never have that. So I think it's important for us to really highlight those things. And I think the general sentiment is from the physicians is we see lots of opportunity to help patients, but they also tell us, look, it takes time and education and work. And that's why we've settled in on the kind of growth factors that we put out for guidance at least at this point in time.

Derek Archila analyst
#30

I guess based on your trajectory as well as what we're seeing from Astellas with Izervay, like how has that informed or changed your view of like the overall opportunity for GA. I mean do you still -- I mean, I think the idea was that this could be multibillion, there's million plus patients. Is that -- has that changed at all?

David Acheson executive
#31

Look, I think the market is there, right? So we -- there's 1.5 million patients that we know that exist in the space. I can give you a quick example. One of our largest accounts has several thousand patients that sit inside their current retina offices and maybe 10% of them are treated, right? So you're talking in a group that maybe has 40,000 total patients that are GA identified, you're talking 5,000 to 10,000 have been treated, right? The opportunity alone in some of these accounts without referrals coming in is quite big. And then the opportunity for patients that are identified that are not in the treating offices, the process to move them over is super important because then they can see someone who can actually do an injection for them. So the market itself, I think, is large, and it's now it's an effort to make sure education and get to the patients and then getting the patients into the right places to be treated is what we're focused on.

Derek Archila analyst
#32

Like what's the most important thing that physicians do to activate those patients that, again, like that are just apparently just sitting there? And is it just the fact that they don't like injections or they don't see value and maybe slowing the progression versus like reversing some of the vision loss. Like what are the things that physicians really need to do?

David Acheson executive
#33

Yes. So look, I think the patients that sit inside of retina specialty office already, those physicians are working to activate that patient because they already know that they have the disease. They've already had these conversations, right? That's a little easier than someone that might be coming in from outside that's newly diagnosed. It takes a little less time for the office staff. They don't have to go through all the new work up, that kind of thing. There's education that takes some time, right? And it's a dedication by the patient to make sure they spend the time talking with the physician about potential treatments. But at the end of the day, I think it's -- we help supply the tools and the information for them that have that dialogue. On many cases, you'll see them talking to disease state education with things that we provided. And we're also doing everything that we can to help educate patients so they'll go in and ask for it. And that information is available in multiple different areas for them to find online and through other channels in DTC and that kind of thing.

Derek Archila analyst
#34

Yes, I was going to ask on DTC, like do you feel like I guess, have you been ramping that over the last 6 to 12 months? And how does that evolve as you kind of try to break into some of these additional patients, whether it be dose types or practices or new practices?

David Acheson executive
#35

So we have -- so DTC, remember, is not just about television. Everyone remembers the television, but there's a lot.

Derek Archila analyst
#36

I hear it on the radio. I feel it's on the radio.

David Acheson executive
#37

Yes, on the radio, too. But there's a lot that happens to make sure patients have access to really understand what their challenge or their disease state is and how to go ask their physician on what the next steps might be. We're continuing to use our work in DTC. We know it has impact. We know that we're connected to somebody with Henry Winkler that helps us kind of capture the attention of this patient base. And then they listen and get educated on the things that they need to ask questions about. So we're dedicated to it, and it works, and we see lots of good feedback that comes out of it.

Derek Archila analyst
#38

And maybe just another question in terms of like so how this market evolves and just the competitive landscape. So obviously, we've got some other drugs in the clinic, probably get some data next year. How do you guys kind of feel about those programs? And they were to show some sort of benefit on vision or BCBA, like how does that kind of change the way people might view SYFOVRE?

David Acheson executive
#39

Yes. So I think there's a couple of things to put in perspective here. I don't think everyone may understand that it's quite a while before anything else comes, right, several years probably. And if you take a look at where we started, it took us 20 years to get across the line with the FDA, with the first approved GA treatment actually globally, right? So it takes a lot of work. And what we're more focused on, quite honestly, is that what's that next step for us to be able to treat patients that have GA, which is what Tim talked about, which is our siRNA and our 3007 molecule because you can actually treat the level of C3 systemically and bring that level down and then treat patients with an IVT and do kind of a double whammy to make sure that you're helping that patient manage the complement. And that is where we're really focused is on what's next for us because we think we've got a really good opportunity in that space and to continue to be the leaders in GA treatment as well as somebody that can bring new products to the space for patients.

Timothy Sullivan executive
#40

I would also say that it would be -- it's a fundamental misinterpretation of understanding GA to think that in a year or a 2-year study, you can materially impact BCBA. I mean the idea of how to structure a trial to do that effectively is really hard for us to understand. We have the best slowing of GA lesions of any drug tested so far. And yes, we still can't get a BCBA signal that is significant in a 2-year time frame, and that would be a high expectation for a GA study. So if GA study is positive in the 1- to 2-year time frame with the sample size under, I don't know, 5,000 or 10,000 for BCBA, then it's probably luck, right? And that's what we saw for our competitive products for Izervay, they had a signal in the 15-letter lost for BCBA over the first year of a study and then in the second year, it disappeared entirely. It was a random walk, right? And that's because to understand GA, you have to understand that the disease, a slow-growing disease, right? And it typically affects the peripheral vision more than it does the central vision, at least initially, it eventually comes into the central vision. And until it crosses into that zone and you have to get a ton of patients who are in that exact spot to then have a drug that flows 30%, 40% to change that BCBA outcome, right, materially? And also, we as humans have the ability at least temporarily to adjust a little bit, right, when something encroaches in the fovea, when the disease encroaches in the fovea. So it's way too noisy to expect that to be a significant thing to understand in a 2-year study. So from our perspective, lesion slowing is the biomarker you need to look at. And what you really should be looking at is that functional vision by using microperimetry, which is what we do, right? And that's the measure we use to figure out for each kind of -- which for each photoreceptor, what it looks like, how well it sees and so forth and be able to extrapolate that using AI to understand the functional impact of GA over time in shorter periods of time. You really can't do that with BCBA. So I don't think we're worried specifically about BCBA being a material measure of disease for any of these drugs. And also, again, as David said, these are pretty far away.

Derek Archila analyst
#41

Got you. And just maybe just as we kind of get more experience with these drugs, there's more data, longer-term data, does that at all put the EU back on the table at all? Like is that -- or is that completely just go put for now?

Timothy Sullivan executive
#42

We'll see. We keep generating data. And again, BCBA is something everybody anchors to because it's something they understand, right? It's easy to understand, but it is not the correct measure for GA. We're adamant about that. I think we know more, honestly, I think we know more about GA than really anybody because of our studies and particularly our understanding of microperimetry, 4 years of data. We have 4 years of data with people who have microperimetery to understand what happens to their vision over time. Again, microperimetry for those of you who don't have the background is a way of shining light on these points in the retina and understanding what they can see. And over time, as the retina dies off, you can see what happens to each 1 of these little pixels and understand how well each one of them sees. And over time, we have hundreds of thousands of these data points. But we can now really tell you what's happening on a functional basis in the retina from GA. And just using a central ability to read a chart is way too noisy over that period of time. So we're the ones who have those data, and I think we can bring that to bear for a general understanding that really isn't there, even among regulatory authorities. We'll see what happens.

Derek Archila analyst
#43

Got you. Maybe the last couple of minutes. So just kind of how we think about Apellis evolving as a company with obviously, EMPAVELI as a base, SYFOVRE as the base and then also kind of future pipeline programs. I mean you hinted that, obviously, 007. But I guess where do you think the investment goes after kind of getting through some of these launches in terms of the pipeline? And like where do you want to be in like 5 years?

Timothy Sullivan executive
#44

Yes. I mean we have dreams of building a great company, right? We're already there in terms of the basis. I think what fundamentally, I don't want to say it's a misunderstanding, but there's -- we have history, right, over the past 6, 7 years as a public company. But if you look at us today, we have these 2 approved products, 3 approvals both with exceptional growth opportunity. We have a strong balance sheet, and we have -- we are an innovative company. So as an integrated biopharmaceutical company that is independent, I think that may be slightly underappreciated that we're in a pretty good spot. And there's another 2 other pieces of this. One is that we are highly differentiated in both of our markets, right? Our C3G and IC-MPGN markets, we have highly, highly differentiated data. I know David has talked about the trifecta. We have doubled the proteinuria of the competitive product pretty much. We have this C3c staining, which nobody has seen before in any product. And then we have the stabilization of eGFR. That's highly differentiated, and it's hard to underscore that enough. In terms of SYFOVRE, we have what we believe is obviously the best lesion slowing. We think we have a highly, highly differentiated product there as well, and we are the market leader. And so from that perspective, we feel really good about the existing products. What's also probably not super well understood is that targeting C3 the way we do really is the most effective way, we believe, to target complement in general. And while there are hundreds of programs out there, I mean, literally hundreds being developed in complement, we have yet to see 1 of them outperform the effect of pegcetacoplan in targeting a complement-related disease. So we really have that fundamental technology. And I guess the last thing I would say is that we're committed to innovation over time, right? We have SYFOVRE where -- this is a perfect example, right? We have SYFOVRE where we keep generating data beyond 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, we keep presenting more and more data. We're developing these algorithms to try to understand the functional vision over time, we're putting -- we're developing this siRNA in combination with SYFOVRE. We're not leaving these GA patients behind, right? We're fundamentally committed to these GA patients into the retina. Similarly, in the kidney, we're just sort of launching there, but we have that same innovative mindset as well. And we're obviously, as you know, developing EMPAVELI in DGF and FSGS. So we're committed to that innovation over time in the key markets where we're focused right now. And then obviously, as we talked about 3007, and we have other pipeline products that are emerging over time, which we'll talk about more .

Derek Archila analyst
#45

Cool. Well, gentlemen, we'll leave it there. Tim, David. Great to see you.

Timothy Sullivan executive
#46

Thank you. I appreciate it.

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