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Australian Clinical Labs Limited (ACL) Earnings Call Transcript

October 28, 2026

ASX AU Health Care Health Care Providers and Services shareholder_meeting

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator operator
#1

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Australian Clinical Labs AGM. [Operator Instructions]. I'd now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Stephen Roche, Chair. Please go ahead.

Stephen Roche executive
#2

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Australian Clinical Labs 2026 AGM. My name is Stephen Roche, and I have the privilege of being the Chair of your Board. We, Australian Clinical Labs would like to acknowledge the traditional aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander custodians of the unceded land on which we work and deliver our services. We pay our respects to Elders past and present as the holders of memories, culture and tradition and extend that respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples here today. We acknowledge the multiple and complex factors impacting aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples as the original people of this country and value their connections to the land, sea and community. I've been informed by our Company Secretary that we have a quorum present, and I now declare the meeting open. Before we begin with today's agenda, I would like to introduce by fellow board members and key executives who are present at the AGM today. Here in Sydney, I'm joined by the Chair of our People and Culture Committee, Christine Bartlett,; the Chair of our Audit and Risk Committee, Mark Haberlin,, and also my fellow Non-Executive Directors, Sarah Butler and Dr. Amandeep Hansra. In addition, our Group Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director, Greg Horan; our Chief Financial Officer, Matthew Cordingley and our Company Secretary, Eleanor Padman, also joined us from Sydney. Joining us virtually from Melbourne is ACL's auditor, Mr. Ben Powers from Pitcher Partners. Ben will be available to answer questions that shareholders may have in relation to the 2026 financial statements and the conduct of the 2026 audit. I will now take a moment to explain the interactive features of the webcast platform that we are using today. A virtual meeting online guide was sent to shareholders with the notice of meeting, and I will now run through the key features. To vote, you will need to register by clicking on the Get a Voting Card button, and providing your security holder number and post code. If you are an appointed proxy, please enter the proxy number issued by MUFG in the proxy details section. Once you have registered, your voting card will appear with the resolutions to be voted on by shareholders during today's meeting. You may need to use the scroll bar to review all resolutions. On your voting card, you will see an option to enter a full vote or a partial vote. To vote, you can click for, against or abstain. If you wish to submit a partial vote, please enter the number of votes you wish to lodge from the total UFC displayed at each resolution. Once you have finished voting on all resolutions, please click Submit Vote. At the end of the meeting, a count down timer will appear and voting will end 5 minutes after the close of the meeting. Please ensure you get your votes in on time. To ask questions, shareholders can simply click Ask a Question. Depending on the volume of questions, we will focus on answering the most frequently asked questions. I would also ask that you can find your questions and comments to the business of the AGM. The notice of meeting for the AGM was made available to all shareholders, and I propose that it be taken as read. The notice of meeting can be found on our website under the Investor Center tab and there is also a link on the AGM platform, if you wish to download it from there. Today, I will begin with my Chair's address, then I will invite our Group Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director; Mr. Greg Horan to provide an overview of the FY '26 financial and operational achievements. We will then move to the formal part of the meeting. The notice of meeting that was sent to shareholders contained 6 resolutions. We will take questions as we address each item of business, and I will try to move at pace to ensure that we complete the agenda in our allocated time. This year, we enter our sixth year since Australian Clinical Labs listed on the ASX. FY '26 was a year of significant change for our company and another demanding year for the Australian pathology sector. Industry funding reductions, inflationary cost pressures and subdued market growth all affected the operating environment. Medicare fee reductions for vitamin B12 and urine testing, subdued general practitioner consultation volumes and lower respiratory in HPV testing contributed to a challenging industry backdrop. Despite these conditions, ACL delivered a resilient financial performance. Underlying EBIT increased to $69.3 million earnings per share increased year-on-year by 8.5%. Return on invested capital improved to greater than 25% and the company generated strong operational cash flows of $64 million. ACL also returned $47 million to shareholders through dividends and an on-market share buyback. Financial year '27 progress will be provided later in the CEO update. These results demonstrate the strength of ACL's national operating platform. The discipline applied across the business and the commitment of our people. The Board remains firmly committed to disciplined capital allocation. During FY '26, nvironment remains an important issue for $1.8 million of costs arising FY '27 guidance reflects ongoing labor cost headwinds, increase and further the company's diagnostic service also improved. Carbon emissions per pathology episode providing appropriate support and Melinda McGrath [Audio Gap].

Greg Horan executive
#3

Thank you, Stephen. Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in our AGM for 2026. It is a privilege to address shareholders as Chief Executive Officer of Australian Clinical Labs. I would like to begin by acknowledging the contribution of Melinda McGrath. Five connected priorities. First is disciplined network and contract growth. We will expand our collection center network and pursue new contracts where we can deliver appropriate returns. Growth for its own sake is not our objective. New locations and contracts must meet clear strategic service and financial criteria. Second is strategic new business. We will pursue opportunities in commercial pathology, research partnerships, genetics, specialized diagnostics and melanoma-relatd services. This area allows ACL to build on capabilities already within the organization while increasing the diversity and quality of our revenue base. Third is disciplined acquisitions. We will continue to assess pathology and adjacent acquisition opportunities, including opportunities associated with some doctors. Each opportunity will be evaluated against clear strategic and financial thresholds. We will remain disciplined in determining what ACL can create value through capability, scale, integration and synergies. Fourth is improved revenue quality, improving the completeness timeliness and quality of revenue capture is a significant area of focus. Our initiatives include digitized billing upfront payment processes, improved recovery of non-Medicare and unbundled tests, contract pricing and continued advocacy for appropriate industry funding. These initiatives are designed to ensure that ACL is appropriately compensated for the services it provides, while maintaining a clear and transparent experience of patients, referrers and customers. Fifth is furthering operational improvement. We will continue to progress Lab of the Future, the National Skin Laboratory, artificial intelligence, automation, procurement initiatives and route optimization. Our aim is to improve productivity and service delivery while reducing unnecessary complexity and cost. We will assess execution across those priorities by focusing on margin, revenue diversification, scale and synergies, revenue quality and cost per test. The strategic direction for ACL remains consistent. we're seeing encouraging signs of growth in the Australian pathology market, which has been stronger in the early part of FY '27 compared to the year prior. After a subdued FY '26 when growth in pathology volumes slowed across the major states. Medicare data for the first 2 months of the financial year shows national market volumes up 5.8% on the same period last year. Growth has been broad-based across most states. Most of this recovery has come from an increase in GP tenancies. These green shoots of growth in primary care are flowing through to pathology referrals. And ACL is seeing similar levels of recovery. ACL specialist pathology referrals have also increased so far on the year prior. For FY '27, ACL is targeting revenue of between $745 million and $765 million and an underlying EBIT of between $67 million and $73 million. And with the improved growth, we're expecting to be at the higher end of the guidance. This represents an implied EBIT margin of approximately 9% to 9.5%. The guidance reflects continued wage pressure and nonfunding settings. The final increase in wages related to the gender undervaluation outcome for pathology collectors is to be finalized on the 1st of January 2027 and this will be absorbed within our stated guidance range. The guidance also incorporates anticipated benefits from initiatives already underway, including upfront episode billings, pricing changes for non-MBS funded tests, Lab of the Future, artificial intelligence, initiatives and closer alignment between the workforce capacity and activity. Our FY '27 priorities are clear: maintain margin stability through known headwinds, execute the initiatives within our control, improve the quality and diversity of revenue, strength in productivity and service delivery and pursue sustainable returns focused growth. Share buybacks will continue to be assessed with regard to the company's funding requirements, strategic investment opportunities and ongoing capital expenditure. ACL has a strong national platform, committed people and a clear opportunity to improve performance through disciplined execution. We will remain focused on operational excellence, accountability, earnings quality, cash generation and sustainable shareholder returns. I would like to thank the Board for the confidence it has placed in me, our people for their contribution, our customers and health care partners for their continued support and our shareholders for your ongoing investment in ACL. I look forward to working with our teams across Australia to deliver the next phase of ACL strategy. Thank you, and back to you, Stephen.

Stephen Roche executive
#4

Thank you, Greg. I would now like to proceed with the formal business of the meeting. The first item of business is to table and consider the financial statements for the year ended 30 June 2026, together with the director's report and the auditor's report, which are included in our 2026 annual report and which we have published on our website. I formally table the 2026 financial statements of ACL for the financial year ended 30 June 2026, the director's report and the auditor's report. I will take all of these reports as read. We will now take any questions submitted via the virtual meeting platform. Are there any questions for Greg or myself in relation to the company's performance or any matters raised by Greg in his address.

Eleanor Padman executive
#5

Stephen, we have a few questions from Steven Mayne. The first relates to AI. How many full-time equivalent staff do we currently have? And is this likely to fall over the coming 12 months with the rapid rollout of AI, which parts of our business and operations are the most prospective AI productivity gains and how energetically or fixing those opportunities. Also to what extent do we allow third-party AI agents into our systems for bookings and the like and to what extent the blockages.

Stephen Roche executive
#6

Thank you, Ele. I'll ask as part of that -- or answer part of that question, Steve, and then throw to Greg for some of the detail around the AI elements that you described. So ACL has a workforce of approximately 4,000 people. In relation to the question around what level of impact will I have on that number. There will be some minimal reduction in that over the coming year, but let me then just emphasize that, that will be also supplemented by the redeployment of those individuals across the business. We are looking at ways operationally that AI can improve and improve our productivity across every element of our business as it can. And I'll probably now pause and through to Greg in relation to some of the other activity around that.

Greg Horan executive
#7

Thanks, Stephen. I would say in terms of our focus, as Stephen said, we are looking at the obvious productivity opportunities, but also how AI can help us grow. I'll say in terms of how energetically we're looking to embrace those opportunities. We are certainly taking an approach of developer governance and security first. before we continue to roll out broadly across the business. That is our main focus at the moment. And to your point, in relation to allowing agents into our system. Again, security here is the biggest issue for us and making sure we have a secure platform and so that is where we'll continue to focus before rolling out a broader program into FY '27. Thank you. Eleanor, are there other questions?

Eleanor Padman executive
#8

Yes, there's another question in relation to the merger and IPO activity. Australia is currently in the midst of an unprecedented venue obtainment that has contributed to listed MCs on the ASX, dropping by 11% since January 2023 to 2044 on September 30, 2026. Why do the Chair and CEO believe this is happening? There is a clear mispricing between public markets and private markets, but is there also a problem with the scrutiny and extra regulation of being listed. Does the Chair agree this is a problem for the nation, particularly with so few new floats replenishing the ASX ranks?

Stephen Roche executive
#9

Thank you for your normal detailed question, Stephen. Let me say from the outset is not my view or my position to comment on market conditions necessarily and other elements of it. Let me just reinforce that whether it is a public or a private market, the price will be the price. What we need to focus on is that we are maximizing the performance of the business and improving returns to shareholders as a consequence and the market will price us accordingly with the circumstances in the environment that we operate within. Next question, Ele.

Eleanor Padman executive
#10

There are no other questions on this item of business.

Stephen Roche executive
#11

Thank you, Ele. Are there any questions in respect to the 2026 financial statements for the auditor?

Eleanor Padman executive
#12

No, there are no questions. .

Stephen Roche executive
#13

Thank you. Next item of business is the nonbinding shareholder resolution to consider the adoption of ACL's 2026 remuneration report. The remuneration report is contained within the 2026 Directors report and forms part of the 2026 financial statements and reports. Displayed now on the screen are the proxies that have been received to date in relation to this. Any votes from directors, key management personnel and their associates have been excluded from this resolution. Are there any questions in relation to this resolution?

Eleanor Padman executive
#14

Steve, we have another question from Stephen Mayne, which of the proxy advisers covered us this year and did any recommend a vote against any of today's resolutions, including this remuneration report item. If so, what reasons did they give and this translate into any material protest for this.

Stephen Roche executive
#15

Thank you, Stephen. The answer to your question is that the majority of proxy houses canvassed us during the reporting season. So ownership matters, Glass Lewis all reported in relation to our reports and all resolved favorably to each of these resolutions. On that basis, then we didn't have a protest vote or any noncompliance in relation to the proxy advisers position on ACL. Are there any other questions, Ele?

Eleanor Padman executive
#16

No, there are other questions on this item of business.

Stephen Roche executive
#17

Thank you. I'll now move for members to consider if in favor, to pass the resolution now displayed on the screen. It's not my intention to read the wording of each resolution for consideration today out loud given that they have not changed since our notice of meeting was sent to shareholders. But in each instance, I will give you all a minute to review the relevant resolution and take a moment to cast your vote. Thank you. The second resolution is to consider the reelection of Dr. Amandeep Hansra in accordance with the Corporations Act and ACL's constitutions. Amandeep is our newest director and was appointed to the Board as a casual vacancy on the 1st of July 2026. In accordance with ATL's constitution, Amandeep now stands for formal reelection by shareholders at this -- the first AGM following her appointment. The Board is delighted that Amandeep has agreed to join ACL's Board. Given her more than 20 years of clinical experience as a general practitioner as well as extensive executive experience in digital health leadership and government engagement. Since joining the Board, Amandeep is considered to be an Independent Director. The Board with Amandeep unanimously recommends that shareholders vote in favor of her reelection. Are there any questions in relation to this resolution, Ele?

Eleanor Padman executive
#18

No, Steven, there aren't any questions in relation to this resolution. We have had a couple of questions come in relating to the previous resolution that I take a moment now to pay your attention to. So the first is from Mr. Wayne Arthur. I'm coupled by the chair saying, EPS increased by 8.5% and in the profit and loss statement, the EPS declined from $0.16 per share to $0.12 per share. .

Stephen Roche executive
#19

I think we can take that on notice. I'm more than happy to speak and contact Mr. Arthur following the meeting. I'm not certain whether we'll be dealing with the difference between underlying and statutory but I'm happy to contact Mr. Arthur post the meeting.

Eleanor Padman executive
#20

Thank you, Steven. And another question from Mr. Arthur. We share buyback. Do you think it is a bit odd that you are paying money to people who no longer want to be shareholders is into the reset and just to concentrate on paying frank dividends to loyal shareholders. .

Stephen Roche executive
#21

Can I thank Mr. Arthur again for the question. I'll only reinforce that, that is a deliberation at the Board has regularly and it's clearly in relation to the balance between returns to shareholders via capital efficiency and buybacks, all by dividends and franking amounts. I can only assure Mr. Arthur that we will continue to consider that and balance that in the most appropriate way moving forward.

Eleanor Padman executive
#22

Thank you, Steven. There are no other questions in relation to the resolution in respect of Amandeep's reelection. .

Stephen Roche executive
#23

Thank you. The third resolution is then to consider the reelection of Mrs. Christine Bartlett in accordance with the Corporations Act in ACL's constitution. Christine was first elected to the Board by shareholders in October 2023 and having completed a term of 3 years now stands for reelection. Christine has held roles with national and global responsibilities and has a strong commercial perspective, particularly in fostering innovation and leveraging new emerging technologies. In addition, Christine is currently a Non-Executive Director of Reliance Worldwide Corporation Limited, Permas Technologies Proprietary Limited and is the Chair of New South Wales ports and SETA. Christine is the Chair of ACL's People and Remuneration Committee and has also served as a member on our Audit and Risk Committee during the 2026 financial year. Christine is considered to be an Independent Director. The Board, with Christine unanimously recommends the shareholders vote in favor of her reelection. Are there any questions in relation to this resolution?

Eleanor Padman executive
#24

No, Stephen. There are no questions in relation to this resolution.

Stephen Roche executive
#25

Thank you. Displayed now on the screen are the proxies that have been received to date. As Chair intend to vote all undirected proxies in favor of the resolution. I now put the resolution shown on the screen to a vote. Please take the next minute to review the resolution and submit your vote. Thank you. [Voting]

Stephen Roche executive
#26

I now just ask shareholders to bear with me as I go back to the formal resolution around Dr. Amandeep Hansra. I now just intend to display on the screen the proxies that have been received to date. As Chair intend to vote all undirected proxies in favor of the resolution. I now put the resolution displayed on the screen to members for consideration and a vote. I will pause for a minute to allow you to review the resolution and cast your vote. [Voting]

Stephen Roche executive
#27

We now move to the fourth resolution, which is to consider the approval to grant an issue -- granting issue of performance rights to Greg as part of his remuneration for FY '27 under ACL's long-term variable remuneration plan. LTVR plan has been designed to facilitate the company adopting modern best practice remuneration quick and equity structures for executives. A key component of effective remuneration for executives is equity interest in the form of the LTVR to drive share performance objectives, link remuneration to company performance and align interest with sustainable value creation for shareholders. This year, and in response to shareholder feedback, the Board has amended the vesting conditions applicable to the grant by removing any service requirement and instead using 3 quantitative performance metrics being total shareholder return, earnings per share and return on invested capital. The performance rights are also subject to a number of other terms and conditions which are set out in the explanatory memorandum to the Notice of Meeting. A voting exclusion also applies to this resolution. The Board, with Greg abstaining, unanimously recommends the shareholders vote in favor of this resolution. Are there any questions in relation to this resolution?

Eleanor Padman executive
#28

Stephen, we have a question from Steven Mayne. What are the material differences between the incentive arrangements for the new CEO and those which apply to his predecessor. Also, retail voting sentiment on rent issue is often different from the 10 largest shareholders to control public company voting outcomes. We disclose the head count data on all resolutions to the ASX to make public retail voting sentiment. And the chronic no retail participation rate evident. Even 2% of shareholders vote by proxy ahead of this meeting. .

Stephen Roche executive
#29

Thank you, Stephen. Let me firstly describe the difference between Melinda's and Greg's contract arrangements. So notwithstanding base remuneration, which is also significantly different between the 2 individuals. The short-term incentive program for Greg has a balance of 50% to 70% of his fixed base remuneration compared to Melinda's that were 100% to 150% stretch on that particular item. On the question on LTVR, Greg's arrangement is 100% of his fixed remuneration with the framework as we've displayed in the notice of meeting and within the annual report. Melinda was not an LTVR plan but with essentially a service requirement over time or her LPI participation in the last 2 years of her contract. On the question then of -- let's take it in some order here. What level of proxy advisers have voted in the last 48 hours. Was that the question Ele?

Eleanor Padman executive
#30

The question was to be even 2% of shareholders vote I think Stephen means is retail shareholders. I'm making that portion. But 73% of it is capital voted in total are shown on the proxy side. .

Stephen Roche executive
#31

So Stephen, I don't have a live analysis of that particular statistic, but I would think that it's unlikely that 2% of shareholders have put proxies in within the last 48 hours. The next part of your question was in relation to whether we are intending to disclose and segment, if I can use that language. The difference between institutional holders and retail holders on the register in their voting. As you've heard me say this in other places where you've asked similar questions. I understand the question. Let me take it on consideration. But I think what I would say is it's unlikely that we would change our position unless there is a substantial level of segmentation there that suggests that it's worthy of some disclosure.

Eleanor Padman executive
#32

Thank you, Stephen. We have no other questions on this item of business.

Stephen Roche executive
#33

The resolution #4, displayed now on the screen are the proxies that have been received to date. As Chair of the meeting, I intend to vote all undirected proxies in favor of the resolution. I now invite members to vote on the resolution displayed on the screen. And I will pause for a minute to give you time to review it and cast your vote. [Voting]

Stephen Roche executive
#34

Thank you. Our fifth resolution for today's meeting relates to the renewal of the proportional takeover provisions that are contained in ACL's constitution and which are required to be renewed by shareholders every 3 years. The proportional takeover provisions were contained in the constitution that was adopted by the company as part of its admission to the official list of the ASX on the 14th of May 2021. I'm last approved by shareholders on the 22nd of October 2023 and have therefore, expired. Resolution 5, therefore, seeks to reinsert the proportional takeover provisions in identical terms for a period of 3 years from the date of today's AGM. If the proposed resolution is approved by shareholders, the proportional takeover provisions will be reinserted into the constitution and have effect on exactly the same terms as the previous provisions until 28 October 2029. A proportional takeover bid involves a bidder offering to buy a proportion only at each shareholder shares in the company. This means that control of the company may pass without shareholders having the chance to sell all their shares to the bidder. It also means that the bidder may take control of the company without paying an adequate amount for gaining control. In order to deal with this possibility, the constitution contains proportional takeover provisions that require shareholders to vote on such a bid and decide collectively whether or not to accept it with the majority decision binding all shareholders. Further information on the mechanics of the provisions and their advantages and disadvantages are set out in the explanatory memorandum that was sent to shareholders with the notice of meeting. As Resolution #5 relates to ACL's constitution, it is a special resolution, which requires at least 75% of the votes cast by shareholders entitled to vote must be in favor of this resolution. The Board unanimously recommends the shareholders vote in favor of this resolution. I just Ele, are there any questions in relation to this resolution.

Eleanor Padman executive
#35

No, Stephen. There are no questions in relation to this item of business.

Stephen Roche executive
#36

Displayed now on the screen then are the proxies that have been received to date. As Chair of the meeting, I intend to vote all undirected proxies in favor of this resolution. I now ask members to consider and vote on the resolution display on the screen. And I will allow a minute for you to review the wording and cast your vote. [Voting]

Stephen Roche executive
#37

Thank you. Our sixth and final resolution relates to the appointment of a new auditor, Deloitte, to the company. Picture Partners has been the company's auditor for more than 10 years. The company's Audit and Risk Committee, therefore, considered that it was a good corporate governance to put the company's audit services to tender and to seek proposals from a number of providers. As a result of that tender process, the Board resolved to appoint Deloitte as its new auditor. The Board also wishes to thank Picture Partners for the services they have provided to the company. Section 328(b) (1) of the Corporations Act requires a written notice of nomination of a new order or new auditor be received from a member of the company. The company has received such a nomination from Mark Haberlin, the Chair of the Audit and Risk Committee in his capacity as a shareholder of the company. A copy of the nomination was annexed to the notice of meeting. Picture Partners has tended a notice of resignation to ASIC under Section 329(5) of the Corporations Act. And Deloitte has given its written consent to act as a new company auditor. Since sending the notice of meeting to shareholders, I can confirm that ASIC has granted its consent to the resignation of Picture Partners. And accordingly, if Resolution 6 is passed, the appointment of Deloitte as the company's new auditor will take effect at the close of the AGM. If Resolution #6 is not passed, then the company will need to appoint a new auditor other than Deloitte. The Board unanimously recommends that shareholders vote in favor of this resolution. Are there any questions in relation to this resolution, Ele?

Eleanor Padman executive
#38

I, see. No new questions.

Stephen Roche executive
#39

Displayed then now on the screen are the properties that have been received to date. As Chair of the meeting, I intend to vote all undirected proxies in favor of the resolution. I also now move for members to consider and if in favor, to pass the resolution now to play on the screen. I will give you all a minute to review the resolution and take a moment to cast your vote. Fellow shareholders that now concludes the formal part of the meeting. Voting is about to end. So please take a moment to ensure that your votes have been submitted. Once all the votes have been reconciled by our share registry, MUFG, the results will be published on the ASX later today. And I thank everyone for attending our AGM. And for those that put questions forward and for your continued support of our company. Thank you again, and goodbye.

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