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Custom Truck One Source, Inc. (CTOS) Earnings Call Transcript

November 29, 2022

US conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

James Kayler analyst
#1

I'm James Kayler, the Homebuilding, Building products and Rental analyst here at BofA. Very happy to have Custom Truck One Source, Ryan McMonagle, Chief Operating Officer; and Chris -- I'm going to mess up your last name, Chris Eperjesy, CFO. Thank you guys so much for coming. I appreciate it. And we're going to do this just as a fireside chat. But even though you guys aren't going to do a full overview presentation, I think it would be helpful just kind of like go over kind of sort of how the company is structured and a little bit of a history, sort of like how you got to where you're at today as a public company.

Ryan McMonagle executive
#2

Why don't I start? And if there's any questions, we're obviously happy to go deeper. But I think -- and I'll start with the history, and then I'll kind of get to the company. But if you think about the history of what is Custom Truck One source today, it really was formed in April of last year. So in April of 2021. And the way I describe it is there were 2 legacy businesses. So there was what was Custom Truck, which was privately owned by Blackstone, which was put together back in 2015 with the vision of being a one-stop shop for specialty trucks. And then there was Nesco, which was -- originally, it was a privately-owned company. Actually originally Platinum owned the company. Many years ago, they sold it to Energy Capital Partners in 2014. And then Energy Capital Partners, through a De-SPAC process in 2019, took it public through a De-SPAC process. And then in 2021, Platinum Equity bought control of Legacy Custom Truck from Blackstone and then also merged us with Nesco at the same time. And so that became what is today Custom Truck One Source. So we've been public since April of 2021. And I described the business as we're a one-stop shop for vocational trucks. And so to us, that means that we'll take care of our fleet customers any way they want to consume equipment, whether they want to rent equipment, whether they want to purchase equipment or they just want us to help service their equipment. We believe that being a true one-stop shop for the customers is the best way to grow, is the best way to capture market share. It has been -- and there are numerous kind of advantages of having that business. That model is largely what Legacy Custom Truck was. Nesco was a rental first model. And so Legacy Nesco and Legacy Custom Truck at the time of putting the 2 companies together, each had a rental fleet that was about the same size. So each had about $650 million of OEC, original equipment cost, in the rental fleet. So we put those 2 businesses together and then also through the model of selling new and used trucks that Custom Truck had and then offering parts and service as well. Today, those are the 3 segments that we report in. We report our ERS segment or Equipment Rental Solutions, our TES, Truck and Equipment Sales, and our APS Aftermarket Parts and Service. Those 3 segments are what make up Custom Truck today.

James Kayler analyst
#3

Super helpful background. And it's interesting how all the connections over the years is kind of all brought back together with Platinum and now in the public market. From a end market perspective, can you talk a little bit about who your ultimate customers are and sort of the sectors that are sort of the most important drivers of the business today?

Christopher Eperjesy executive
#4

Yes, sure. And so we kind of identified 4 key markets that we have. Our largest is going to be in the utility space, transmission and distribution. It's roughly 60% of our business. The next biggest segment is broadly defined as infrastructure. It's a little over 20%. And then telecom and rail are just under 5% each. And then the rest is a group of other industries and end markets.

James Kayler analyst
#5

And I guess -- I mean you hit on this a little bit, but maybe you can talk about -- and you guys both came from the truck side. And so obviously, you saw a lot of value in sort of the integrated product offering. Nesco obviously had a different business model. Maybe you can tell us sort of like strategically how that sort of interplay works especially like as it relates to your customer relationships?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#6

Sure. I think there's a couple of things that make the one-stop shop model valuable. And there's really 2 groups that I'll refer to. The first is what makes the rental fleet perform even better. So when we think about the rental fleet in particular, we've got a lower setup cost. We know that we have a 7% to 10% cost advantage in terms of what it takes to add an asset into our rental fleet by putting those units together ourselves versus if we were to buy completed units from a different equipment provider. And so I think that's certainly significant. Because of the model that we carry inventory on our balance sheet and then as there is customer demand for equipment, we're able to either sell it or to rent it. I think it drives some of the rental performance as well because we keep that inventory as inventory and we don't consume it and put it into the rental fleet until it's ready to go to a customer. And then because we have 100 sales reps across the country who -- about 30 of them are focused on renting equipment, about 70 are primarily focused on selling equipment. As we think about selling assets out of the rental fleet at the end of its useful life, we're able to sell the majority of our equipment direct to the customer. And so we're seeing higher residual value. So we think there's a lot of benefit in terms of running the rental business because of how it relates to what we call our integrated production business as well. And then we think when you think about the customer, the advantages that the customer never has to leave Custom Truck, right? So there are very few of our customers who only buy or who only rent equipment, the majority of our customers -- and Chris hit on it -- but the majority of our customers are contractors. So utility contractors, or telecom contractors, or rail contractors. The majority of our customers own a portion of their fleet and rent a portion of their fleet. There's shades of gray in there in terms of how much of their fleet is owned and how much of it is rented. But by being able to take care of everything they need for their fleet, we found that we're able to capture a greater share of wallet, and we're also able to react as the market moves if rental is more in demand for a period of time or if purchasing equipment is more in demand. So we think there's a significant rental advantage and a significant cost advantage. And then in terms of taking care of the customer, we know that we have some real competitive advantage there as well.

James Kayler analyst
#7

Very good. So you sort of you touched on this with the fact that a lot of your customers own some fleet, rent some fleet. I guess I wanted to dig in on that a little bit more to understand. I mean if you have a -- my guess is that it's hard to sort of have a view on sort of like what percentage they're owning versus renting. If you do or directionally, I would be curious, but even more so, maybe sort of walk through their decision to own a certain piece of equipment over renting it. Is it certain types of equipment? Is it with big project surges? Sort of what is driving their decision to rent from you guys?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#8

It's a little different by end market, and it's certainly different kind of depending on where demand sits. But we would say in general, and this is a broad generalization, but the contractors typically rent about 50% of their fleet. That seems to be the average. There's a lot of dispersion around that. And so there are contractors who only rent, right? And they're doing that for balance sheet reasons or if they're primarily chasing contracts, right? They may choose to only rent for the duration of that contract. And then there are other contractors who prefer to own their fleet. And so they've made a decision that they think they're efficient allocators of capital and prefer to own their fleet. We will see that they come to us to rent in addition to their own fleet because of increases in demand, which is what's going on right now with a lot of our contractors -- or because of a lack of availability of supply, which is also what's happening right now, where we're seeing backlog continue to increase. And so because it's increasing, we're not able to meet their demand and so they are renting also. So I think there's a couple of dynamics in there that are in play.

James Kayler analyst
#9

Before getting to maybe the outlook and sort of like the growth levers, in terms of the industry like structure -- I was stuck in traffic I guess you on my way to Miami to visit this cruise company, we were stuck at [ Altec Truck ] or 2 of them the entire way. So I know that CTOS and Altec are sort of the 2 largest players. But in terms of scale, like how big are you guys as part of the market? And then what is the rest of the landscape look like across the country?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#10

Sure. I'll start by talking about the utility end market, in particular. And there's not publicly available data. So this is just kind of our perspective of what the market looks like. But we think that Altec Manufacturers, just over half of kind of all of the buckets and digger derricks that are put into the utility end market, and then there's 2 other large players there. There's Terex, which we sell. We do the installation of Terex equipment as it goes to contractors. And then there's Versalift who are the 3 largest players in that segment. And then there's a handful of other small manufacturers in the utility space. So it's consolidated from a manufacturing standpoint in the utility space. We know that we're the largest buyer of Terex buckets and diggers. And so we will buy their bucket and digger, we will turn it into a completed truck, and then we will rent it or sell it to customers. And so from a manufacturing standpoint, that's what it looks like. And then you've got a lot of fragmentation from other providers who will offer rental equipment or who will build a completed truck for a customer. And that's what the landscape looks like on the utility side. When you get into telecom, slightly different but similar players in the telecom segment. There, it's Altec and Versalift are the 2 largest players in the telecom segment. And then you've got names like Posi+ and you've got names like Dur-A-Lift and ETI who play in those segments as well. And then when you get into some of the other specialty vocational segments, you've got a different lineup of attachment manufacturers there, and that's where the custom truck model is unique. Altec has decided to focus primarily on utility and telecom. And we've taken a view of there's a lot of additional products that those customers are looking to purchase, whether it's tractors or trailers or dump trucks or water trucks or vacuum trucks, that we think it's important to have those products in our product offering as well.

James Kayler analyst
#11

It sounds like on the, certainly, for the utility on the manufacturing side, it's pretty consolidated. How about on the rental side? I assume the rental market is more fragmented.

Ryan McMonagle executive
#12

It is. We think now consolidated Custom Truck and Altec have the 2 largest rental fleets that are out there. There are some large regional players. And then there are a lot of fragmented smaller local mom-and-pop players who rent the same type of equipment as well.

James Kayler analyst
#13

I guess maybe just as a lead in to sort of like the outlook for those various end marks. But like what in terms of what is the composition of your fleet look like? Meaning, I mean, I probably won't -- I don't know a lot of the very specialized equipment, but where is like sort of the main focus on the rental fleet? And I know you guys have done some great slides. We're kind of laying out the sort of financial model, meaning like the sort of returns and how to think about that on a various pieces of equipment.

Ryan McMonagle executive
#14

Sure. I'll start. The makeup of the fleet, Chris, mentioned that about 60% of our total revenue comes from utility. When we look at the rental fleet, about 70% of the rental fleet revenue comes from our utility customers. And so there is a bit more concentration on the utility when it comes to our rental fleet in particular. And I think just over half of the rental fleet is made up of what are called buckets and digger derricks. So buckets are what are used to go up in the air 40 feet. We have some that go up 190 feet and then digger derricks are what are used to drill holes in the ground. So that makes up about half of the rental fleet and then there's an additional 20% to 30% of additional utility equipment in the rental fleet as well. And I think -- so that's the makeup of the fleet. It's just under 10,000 pieces today, about $1.4 billion of OEC now on a consolidated basis is what's in the rental fleet. It's about 3.7 years old in terms of age of equipment. And I think that's one of the things that makes the fleet unique and certainly from a credit perspective is important. 3.7 years old, the useful life of the equipment is really kind of 15 to 20 years when you think about the total useful life of the types of equipment that make up the fleet. And then I think, James, to think about your question, we've gotten comfortable with the economics of both renting a piece of equipment and selling a piece of equipment. And so we disclose a metric that we call on-rent yield, which is just under 40% a year. And so that's kind of the revenue generated by one piece of equipment over a year. So you've got about a 2.5-year payback, if you think about a piece of equipment that way. We've also discussed in the past our unlevered ROIC. So we generate about a 20% unlevered ROIC when we track an asset from the time we put it into the rental fleet to the time that we sell a piece out of the rental fleet. So we're very comfortable from a capital deployment side there. And then when you think about the sales side of the business, we're generating -- we report kind of low teens gross margin when you think about the gross margin that we're making on selling a piece of equipment. Obviously, very different from a capital intensity on the rental side and very little capital exposure on the sales side of the business, but we've gotten comfortable that the returns over a period of time are similar and are acceptable for both sides of that business, each side of the business.

James Kayler analyst
#15

Very good. And I know a big part of the sort of Platinum and the de-SPAC thesis was that Nesco had been very much underinvested in, just given its levered balance sheet. So I guess, what were the areas that you guys saw as an opportunity for investment? And sort of where do you stand in that investment cycle?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#16

A couple of things. So yes, we talked about how their fleet at the time of putting the 2 fleets together was about 1 year, 1.5 years older than the CTOS fleet. And so we've -- in our early calls, we talked about some of the R&M expense that needed to occur to get the fleet up to our rental standards. And then we've also talked about -- we mentioned it on our last call that we've been replacing some of that fleet as well. And so I think we're working through that process. Obviously, as supply chain continues to improve, we can replace more rental fleet. But we've been -- but as it has improved over the last couple of quarters, I think we mentioned on the Q3 call, we put about $97 million of new CapEx into the rental fleet. And a meaningful portion of that was replacement CapEx. So able to take out some of the older fleet that was some of the legacy Nesco fleet and then some of the older us Custom Truck fleet as it just continued to age.

James Kayler analyst
#17

Great. Well, just making sure that we stay on -- I want to come back to some more detailed stuff, but to make sure we stay on time. I do want to comment -- because I think the -- I think people looking at the company don't necessarily have like the perspective in to your end markets. And so I'm curious if you can talk through sort of like your outlook for end markets. And I know that some segments is a little more visibility. I know like there are like publicly stated CapEx budgets. And then I guess as part of that, if there are any sort of major, whether it's regulatory or project-driven things that are driving the CapEx cycle on the utility side.

Ryan McMonagle executive
#18

Sure. I'll start with T&D and we'll talk about some of the other end markets. But there's really 3 things that I would highlight as you think about the T&D end market in particular, and this first one will apply to most of our end markets. But because there's been a constraint on the supply of equipment, there's a large replacement cycle coming of fleets needing to replace kind of the equipment that's in our fleet. So we see that as a very good driver of demand. Specific to T&D, we are very bullish on the outlook for both transmission projects and distribution projects that need to get done. So there's plenty of new transmission lines that have been announced that are being built. There's a lot of maintenance happening kind of on existing transmission lines. And then the same is true on distribution. So we think that just as you think about the aging of infrastructure, we think that's a significant demand driver for us. If you think about electrification, we think electrification of everything, of passenger vehicles in particular, means that there's a significant upgrade that's needed on the grid as it sits today. So that's a great demand driver for us. So to me, we had a bullish call on transmission and distribution even before the third, which is the infrastructure bill. So the infrastructure bill has about $70 billion that's been allocated for T&D spend. And we don't believe that any very little, if any, of that is really shovel-ready projects today. And so we think that the amount of capital that will be spent on those projects is just a third great driver of demand for the T&D space, in particular, and ultimately for Custom Truck.

James Kayler analyst
#19

Very good. Beginning to get a little bit specific. But in terms of California, where like it's probably the most high profile sort of power market, does -- I guess, is that sort of symbolic? Sort of the aging of the infrastructure there and all the issues created, is that sort of symbolic of like the grid overall? Is that, specifically, is the driver for your business?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#20

I think so. So yes, I think a lot of what's happening in California, both on the aging of the grid and some of the regulatory framework around electrification are both very good for Custom Truck and are great demand drivers. And it's not just California. If you think about what's happened in Texas, if you think about kind of what's happened along some of the Coast, the Gulf Coast as well with hurricanes, there's a lot of hardening that has to happen because of that. And so that's really been -- all of those have been very good demand drivers for us.

James Kayler analyst
#21

Very good. And in terms of I guess, just on the utility side, I mean I know there's a couple of sort of large contracts who are publicly traded and might give backlogs. Like what have been the trends in their backlog? And I guess sort of related question, kind of getting at [indiscernible] third, the sensitivity to the macro every was very concerned about macro right now my sense is that your end market should probably have somewhat differ cycle than the consumer in particular.

Ryan McMonagle executive
#22

I think it's a great question. And we always look at the utility contractors and their reported backlog. If you look at the Quanta Group or MYR or MasTec or DiaCom, those are all publicly traded companies and all are at or near record backlogs, right? And so that's really our customer, and that's -- our equipment is helping them do that work. And so we think that's a great indicator, right, of the demand that's out there.

James Kayler analyst
#23

And in terms of, do you -- how do you think about the business overall and sort of like general macro cyclicality?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#24

We say that we've been intentional in choosing recession-resistant end markets. So I think if you look at T&D and you look at T&D spend, if you want your lights to come on, right, we think that, that will continue. We don't think there will be kind of the macro exposure that you'll see in some other end markets. So I think we feel very good about the T&D end market, probably a similar dynamic in telecom right now, which is a lot of the 5G rollout. We say that rail has kind of just been a steady performer for us. So as there is another allocation of about $70 billion in the infrastructure bill for rail, so upgrades to both commuter rail and you think about some of the short line work that's being done and even Class 1 railroads have been good customers for us. So we've seen that as kind of a good area of demand for us. And then more broadly, and Chris mentioned it, the infrastructure segment has been strong as well. And that's -- obviously, the bulk of the infrastructure bill is in that infrastructure end market for us. So we think we still have a bullish call on all 4 of the end markets from a demand perspective. We think -- so we've got a bullish call there. We think it's reflected in backlog. Backlog is north of $700 million on the TES on the equipment sales side of the business. That's approximately a year of sales. So we like having that amount of backlog. Historically, that has been closer to 4 to 6 months of backlog. And so we have seen that increase. We said on the Q3 call that even in the month of October, it was continuing to build. So we're still seeing good demand there. And then when you think about the rental fleet, we talk a lot about utilization, and utilization has been strong. It was very strong in Q3. We said on the call that it came out at 87%, which is really levels that if you're familiar with rental economics are not levels that you can normally see kind of from a rental fleet and how it's performing. And so we think it's another great indicator of demand as well.

James Kayler analyst
#25

Very good. On the -- with those types of utilization, do you guys disclose pricing also?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#26

We report a metric called on-rent yield. So we report on-rent yield, which has stayed relatively flat, is up a few hundred basis points from when the deal was set up. What we also said a couple of quarters ago, though, is that as we're putting new assets out on rent, it's been at kind of mid-single digits to low double-digit increase over where the fleet has been priced historically. And it just takes time for our fleet to churn, right? So we don't increase the price the customer pays, while a specific asset is out on rent. It needs to be returned. And then when we put it back out on rent, we'll put it back out at what the market says the right price should be.

James Kayler analyst
#27

That makes sense. Actually, I meant to ask earlier, what is the -- do you have like an average -- I'm sure it's different by customer and asset type. But is there like an average rental period [indiscernible] average length?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#28

Yes. Currently, it's just under a year at 11 months. Historically, it's probably been closer to 8 or 9 months. So it is up a little bit more recently.

James Kayler analyst
#29

So if you go on United Rental or one of the jet rent guys websites, they'll show your equipment, your equipment looks kind of cool from their website, you can find it. But like they really haven't leaned into this segment despite pushing into specialty rental and other things. Why is it that you think some of the bigger jet rent guys are employing here?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#30

I think it's the specialty nature of the equipment is probably the biggest differentiator. You're right, if you go on their website, you will see a 2,000-gallon water truck or maybe a 10-foot dump truck. In many cases, we will have sold those trucks to United Rentals or to HERC as another example. And I think -- so their biggest equipment is our smallest equipment when you think about the makeup of fleets. I think there's a couple of things that make it more challenging. Obviously, as you get into bigger trucks, there's more from a maintenance perspective that has to be maintained. When you think about the primary application of the majority of our trucks is to go work on live power, but there's a much higher standard from what's required from a service standpoint. And then I think as you understand the customers, one of the things that we've mentioned just briefly is that makes Custom Truck unique is our ability to service all of the equipment that we build and to maintain the rental fleet. And to me, it's just a slightly different model from being on call 24/7. We have a 24/7 call center where we answer customer calls with a mechanic or someone who's trained in the equipment. 24/7, and then we'll dispatch our fleet. So I think there's just a bit of a different expectation from the customer when it comes to the type of equipment that we rent. And then I think it's really the specialty nature of the equipment that we build that makes it a stretch for how United Rentals or HERC or any of the general rental houses operate today.

James Kayler analyst
#31

So it wouldn't be a debt conference or a debt balance sheet question. I think you guys have like a 3x leverage target and you're sort of in the high 3s now. I guess how do you think about getting from where you are to where the target is and sort of like capital allocation as part of the whole conversation, whether it's sort of how are you going to divvy up the earnings?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#32

So there's 3 areas that we've really publicly talked about. One is, we do think that the demand is there, and we see the opportunity to continue to grow our rental fleet. We put a target out there of growing that on a net basis, so net of proceeds from sales of roughly mid-single to high single digits. So that would get you north of $100 million in terms of adding to our rental fleet. So that's one area of focus in terms of organic investment in the business. Another area is the target that you just said in terms of deleveraging. We think we can do that with that level of investment. And with the growth that we're going to see, we've set that target of being below 3x leverage by the end of next year. And then we've also talked about some of the opportunity for geographic expansion, particularly in the Pacific Northwest, Northern California and Southwest, in the Carolinas, and then in the New York, New Jersey area. Those all, either from an organic standpoint or from an M&A standpoint, provide an opportunity for us for some growth. And so we think we can do all 3 of those and still be able to deleverage. One that probably in the near term is not on our list would be returning capital to shareholders right now. So really just focused on investing in the business, continuing to delever and then doing strategic tuck-in acquisitions where it makes sense.

James Kayler analyst
#33

Very good. Well, we're down to 1 minute. No one ever had -- anyone have a question in the audience?

Ryan McMonagle executive
#34

The biggest group of -- there is a wide spectrum of contractors, so the largest Quanta or the MYR Group or MasTec or DiaCom. Those are all good kind of very large national contractors. There are a lot of regional contractors too that we will sell to that are privately owned, and then there are plenty of individual contractors. So we will sell everything from one truck to a local vegetation management company kind of in your market to hundreds of trucks, right, to a customer. And then the same on the rental side. We'll rent plenty of ones and 2s, and we'll also -- we might have a rental order for several hundred trucks because of a large distribution job that's being done. So it spans a spectrum. We do sell some to IOUs as well. So like Duke Energy or [indiscernible], those types of customers. We do sell some to those. Those power producers or IOUs do not tend to rent as much equipment. It's typically the contractor who's doing the work for the IOU, who's primarily renting the equipment. We do. Yes, that's in the telecom space, but we do sell trucks to Verizon. And one of the businesses that we bought was the primary upfitter of Verizon trucks as well. So you're right. You got it. That's right, yes.

James Kayler analyst
#35

All right. Great. Well, Ryan and Chris, thank you very much. Thank you for coming. Yes, good to learn more about the company.

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