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DexCom, Inc. (DXCM) Earnings Call Transcript

August 10, 2022

NASDAQ US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 26 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Kyle Rose analyst
#1

Great. Good morning, and welcome back to the 42nd Annual Canaccord Genuity Global Growth Conference. I'm Kyle Rose. I'm one of the medical technology analysts here at Canaccord. Very glad to be back in person and see some faces rather than just Zoom screens. But I'm joined this morning by Dexcom. Dexcom is a leader and innovator in the design, development and commercialization of continuous glucose monitoring, which has really been one of the largest growth segments within med tech over the course of the last decade. So very pleased to be joined by the CFO, Jereme Sylvain; as well as the Head of Investor Relations, Sean Christensen. So we've got a fireside chat format here. I've got a list of questions I want to work through. I want to make it as interactive as possible. So raise your hand, and I'll do my best to weave anything in. And then just before we jump into questions here, just need to give the obligatory compliance disclosures that any disclosures if and where applicable, you can find those on either our conference and/or our firm website.

Kyle Rose analyst
#2

So gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us. I think the place that I want to start is just on the Q2, you reported good Q2 numbers a few weeks ago. Maybe just kind of refresh us on the growth you've seen through the first half and kind of the setup as we head into the second half of the year.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#3

Yes. Thanks. And thanks, everyone, for joining us today. Really great seeing faces again. Q2 -- really Q2 results, as you think about what the key takeaways were, I think what it does is it really positions us for a springboard for the balance of the year. So I'll kind of cover the really the -- what I'll say is the takeaways is. Outside the U.S., something that maybe we didn't talk about as much in the follow-up calls, an incredible quarter, 34% growth on an organic basis excluding currency. So certainly for us, that continues to hit on all cylinders. And that doesn't include the new product launches, a really much contribution from new product launches, both Dexcom ONE and G7. So we certainly have a lot of momentum outside the U.S. and continue to be excited about what that opportunity brings. In the U.S., we had about an 11% growth quarter. That's on a mid-30% unit volume growth. So still very strong unit volume growth. But I think the big takeaway is we had record new patients in the second quarter and a record by a significant margin in the U.S. And so that sets us up for momentum really coming into the back half of the year as well inside the U.S. as a recurring revenue business, clearly, that starts to play out. And so I think in short, the takeaways are solid quarter, able to reiterate full year gross margin, full year operating margins. We were able to navigate through all the economic challenges folks are facing. As we come out the back half of the year and how we're set up for success for the back half of the year, we expect the U.S. to reaccelerate in terms of growth rate. And we expect the OUS to continue to be very, very strong. So we feel we exit in a great position and really excited for the new product launches that we have coming over the next 6 to 12 months.

Kyle Rose analyst
#4

Yes. And it's great to hear about the expectations for momentum for the U.S. to accelerate in the second half, particularly given -- we did get an update on the Q2 call just about G7 being pushed out a little bit. I mean that was one of the -- that's where I took the majority of my questions from investors. So maybe just help us understand or remind us what the sticking point was with the FDA on the changes you're making with G7 and then just the overall confidence that you have that after we make these changes, you can still launch before year-end.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#5

Yes, I'm happy to take that one. And look, that was probably where some of the conversation took place. And so we'll reiterate, we submitted with the FDA back in Q4 of last year, products in wonderful shape. As typical in the review process with the FDA, there's back and forth questions. They asked us some questions, and we think we've been able to address all those with the exception of one, which was a software feature which allowed for alarm management. And effectively, it was the equivalent of a snooze button. It's probably one of the more requested features out there. Ultimately, we decided the best answer was to simply remove it. And that was the quickest path to ultimate approval. So the process of removing it and doing verification and validation before we then submit all of our responses to the FDA, we're going through that process right now. So it does create a little bit of a delay. I think the reason why it gives us confidence in a Q4 approval is we've got the questions. We know what those questions are. We know what the answers are, and we believe we've answered those. The one thing that we didn't have was the software change, which ultimately we are making, and that's within our control. So we believe we'll be able to respond here pretty quickly, and we believe that Q4 approval is untapped given what we know.

Kyle Rose analyst
#6

Great. So I want to touch on just a couple of more macro like supply chain issues and before digging into the rest of the business. But you -- obviously, you have an extensive supply chain, U.S. manufacturing, OUS manufacturing. You're on the cusp of launching a new product in the U.S. and internationally. So just overall, where is the state of the supply chain as it stands now? Do you have enough to support your global launches? And how should we think about any of those potential areas for pressure over the coming 6 months?

Jereme Sylvain executive
#7

Yes. Sure, I can take this one. And Sean, augment as you see fit.

Sean Christensen executive
#8

Sure.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#9

One of the things I'll give our supply chain team a lot of credit for is we saw the issues, and the biggest issue we would have exposure to would be the semiconductor industry, certainly, the chips that are used in our product. Our team really saw that coming and leveraged, quite frankly, our balance sheet to make sure that we had enough inventory to get through 2022 and really into 2023. And so we've got the inventory, and so we'll be able to manufacture those. We've also built out enough capacity both in the U.S., but also with Malaysia, our third manufacturing location coming live next year, that we can scale up and scale down as needed. Certainly, the expectation is scaling up. And so having the chips, having the supply chain, having been the footprint, the manufacturing footprint to do so, we've been in a really good position. And because we were ahead of it, that's why we were able to reiterate full year gross margin and operating margin. So we were able to do that through this process and navigate through those pricing challenges because of that forward-looking thinking. Doesn't mean we're all out of the woods yet as you think about longer term. Certainly, semiconductor industry and demand on chips is going to be something that persists for some time. But I do think thinking years ahead, not months ahead, has allowed us to really navigate this in a pretty well manner.

Sean Christensen executive
#10

And I would just add on to Jereme's point, everything for Dexcom relates back to the customer. And one of the things we tried to point out on our first quarter call related to the supply chain dynamics and global macroeconomic influences is that our on-time delivery rate for our shipments was 99.7. So we are executing incredibly well, and that's something we're proud of, given the gravity of diabetes management for our customers and how significant a role our product plays in their lives.

Kyle Rose analyst
#11

Yes. And I guess the upside to G7 being delayed a little bit is the fact that you have very strong manufacturing margins on the G6 given you're 3, 4 years in the launch there. So let's talk just a little bit about G7. I think we understand the FDA, I guess, landscape over the course of the next 6 months, but you received CE Mark earlier this year. You launched into the U.K. I guess maybe early learnings that you're seeing as far as the commercial response from the G7 launch and then other territories, I guess, outside the United States that you're thinking about over the course of the next 6 to 12 months.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#12

Yes, Sean, do you want to cover the U.K. learnings?

Sean Christensen executive
#13

Yes. It's been a great process for us. Fun to watch. We have a daily dashboard where we're tracking various metrics in terms of user experiences. We're soliciting feedback from our users in that limited launch. The great news is that the overwhelming majority of the feedback is incredibly positive. People do not want to give up their G7 sensors. They're impressed with the form factor with the 30-minute warmup, with the app functionality across the board. When we talk about it being a step-up from our G6 experience, that's been validated by our initial customers. You supplement that with feedback that's helpful for the broader launch. And I'll give you a couple of examples, and you have 2 finance people up here who could tell you the cost of every phone call that we get. When we are training our customers, and most of that is done via videos, self-training now, one of the things we heard was with the applicator, you just have to put a little bit of pressure down as you push the button. We had people who -- that wasn't intuitive whereas we thought it was. So that's the kind of what I might call micro feedback that we take very seriously because then we can supplement our training materials and make that onboarding experience for our customers that much better just by welcoming that kind of feedback. So I'd use that as a very simple example of the kind of learnings that we have. But overwhelmingly, the feedback has been positive, and we look forward to extending this launch in the coming weeks.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#14

In terms of the rollout, while we're not going to get into specific countries, expect -- the U.K. is an obvious one. It's one where the limited launch has taken place. But expect us to be in multiple countries with G7 as well as with Dexcom ONE. And so we've got a sequenced rollout for competitive reasons, we won't necessarily roll it out, but expect multiple countries on multiple different iterations of our various product lines. So it's very exciting outside the U.S.

Kyle Rose analyst
#15

And one of the things that the FDA clearance brings is it starts the reimbursement process, right? So you're -- yes, you're delayed on getting the launch to market, but then that also kind of pushes out some of the reimbursement conversations that you can have. So I guess can you maybe just talk about what, if anything, you're able to do from a reimbursement or contracting perspective prelaunch at least in the U.S. to help drive that faster?

Jereme Sylvain executive
#16

Sure. Yes, I can start, and certainly, Sean can augment this. Generally, you're right, a lot of the contracts require an NDC code. NDC codes generally come with an FDA approval. But ahead of time, because we know this is coming and we have that level of confidence, a lot of the contracting around pricing has already been completed. We already know what the pricing is going to be. And really, what we're asking is for a very similar price to what we pay for G6. And so that process is part of the normal cadence in having these conversations. The paperwork and how we set up the annual renewals has already been set up in a way to where we can slide G7, and we just need to fill in the codes. So yes, there are certain things around the actual administrative process of getting the NDC through the entire PBM process, certainly in the pharmacy channel. But all of the other admin negotiation rates, et cetera, that has all been pulled forward. And those conversations are ongoing well ahead of approval, which gives us the confidence that we'll be able to get the kind of approval and the reimbursement in closer to 6 months as opposed to the typical 6 to 12 months. We're thinking it really gravitates closer to 6 because of the acceleration. Certainly, helpful for a large broader, faster commercial launch once we get approval.

Kyle Rose analyst
#17

And let's stay on the products, the product side of things in transition from G7 to Dexcom ONE because -- and then maybe just remind us all what Dexcom ONE is because it's similar, but it's also -- there's very nuanced differences. So -- and maybe flesh out why that's important and how it's positioned commercially.

Sean Christensen executive
#18

Yes. Maybe I can start on this one, and Jeremy, certainly welcome your feedback here as well. So Dexcom ONE, for those of you who may be unfamiliar, historically, we've had our G Series product. Dexcom ONE is software-differentiated product. So leveraging the same currently G6 hardware. Eventually, we'll move to the G7 hardware over time, so we have the manufacturing efficiencies. The software is differentiated in that it does not have pump connectivity, and some of the premium features that we have on our core system, share and follow and also predictive alerts would be the third kind of key features. We hesitate a little bit to call it a defeatured product necessarily, though, because it also has a completely redesigned app experience, which I would say is even a step forward from our G6 app and more commensurate with our G7 app that our customers will experience. So great products. The reason this product makes sense in several of our markets is take a market like the U.K. where we announced last week that we have been included in the U.K. drug formulary, which is a kind of broader access. You have tiers of reimbursement that exist in certain of our OUS markets, not all of them, but some of them. And this is a product that allows us to access kind of a lower tier where, historically, we've been unable to compete. It's also a product as we move into kind of more low- and middle-income countries where diabetes is proliferating, it gives us easier access whether we can go in, in a cash pay product as we've done in 4 Eastern European countries who've subsequently adopted reimbursement for the type 1 population after seeing the initial uptake of the product. So it's a creative way to leverage software differentiation to really significantly broaden access to health care globally.

Kyle Rose analyst
#19

And when we think about that, I mean, you launched it initially into some Eastern European countries, then very encouraging to see reimbursement actually follow some of those. But then you've also gone into some of your traditional G Series countries as well like U.K., Spain. I think you're talking about going to Italy with a partner now. So how do you see the product segmentation within those markets from a G Series perspective to a Dexcom ONE? And how do you make sure that you're not cannibalizing one for the other?

Sean Christensen executive
#20

Yes. So it's a great question. I think as we look at these type of markets, it's important to understand that the reimbursement and the tiering nature largely already exists there. So it's not like we're creating tiers of access and different choice. They're largely slotted in. And I would go back to those 3 features that I mentioned, the pump connectivity, the share, follow and predictive alerts. Depending on one's diabetes experience, how they're administering their insulin, things like are they hypo unaware, are they prone to hypoglycemia? Are they pediatric? These are really the determinants from a clinical standpoint that determine where they slot in from an access perspective currently. So the expanded product portfolio gives us now the opportunity to not only address the premium tier of the segment, those on pumps, those who are hypo unaware, those who are pediatric where we have done well now and continue to grow. But it allows us the majority of the population. We now have a product to compete there as well. And that's, frankly, not an area where our competitors have been operating unfettered previously. So again, something we're really excited about, very early, but something we hope is a nice catalyst for the next several years.

Kyle Rose analyst
#21

Yes. So you're expanding the TAM but then -- by entering new countries, but then you're also expanding the TAM in countries you've previously been in.

Sean Christensen executive
#22

Correct.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#23

Yes. I mean, think about that. I mean in those lower reimbursed areas, our market share was 0. I mean, we just didn't compete. Now you have all of the features Sean really referenced with a large TAM, market share 0. We like the way that sets up for us in terms of at least taking share and certainly of the new patient population. We know we can take our fair share of those as well.

Kyle Rose analyst
#24

And then I'd like to transition to -- with the last 10 minutes here to the distribution in the commercial channel side of things. Just as we've seen the transition to the pharmacy just proliferate the space and really just change the cost curve here, maybe talk about where we're at from a transition, from a price and a mix headwind? I mean, I think this is going to be the third year of north of $200 million, $300 million worth of price headwinds. And when you talk about 11% in the Q2, but then you talk about record new patient starts, those are -- you're really offsetting some of that. So where are we in the price mix adoption? And how much more should we expect?

Jereme Sylvain executive
#25

Sure. Yes. So years ago, we made a decision that where patients wanted to be met longer term was going to be in the pharmacy. DME is generally challenging to get product, it takes longer. And as you move into the primary care space, where a lot of type 2 intensive and eventually type 2 nonintensive folks impacted with diabetes we're seeing, they're used to getting their product through the pharmacy. And so we went through a process of pharmacy first, which was moving our DME channel folks to pharmacy where possible and increasing coverage there. And so what we expected over time was to shift from almost a predominantly 100% U.S. commercial DME business to where we thought about 75% of that U.S. commercial book of business would then be fulfilled through pharmacy and 25% through DME. Exiting 2020, moving into 2021, that was about 50-50. We expect to get to 75-25 by the end of this year. But in making that change, we've introduced some significant pricing headwinds, about $200 million in the U.S. this year of pricing headwinds of somebody who used to get their product in DME. And we've encouraged them to go to the pharmacy or we've encouraged their physician to point them to the pharmacy. We think it settles in right around that 75-25. Our new patient mix is pretty close to that today. And so if that's an indication of where the existing patient base migrates, which we think is our best proxy, by the end of this year, that pricing challenge or that delta between unit volumes and pricing should start to shrink. There will be a little bit of lapping in 2023, but it'll shrink where unit economics will start to play in much closer to revenues. And at that point, we believe very confidently that we now have the mix. If you want to be seen in the pharmacy, great. You can be seen in the pharmacy. If you want to go down the DME route, we can absolutely service you from that perspective and kind of that migration, that vision of making sure that folks could be seen where they want to see it will be effectively complete. And so it should mean in 2023, that gap starts to narrow quite a bit. And over the longer term, we expect it to be typical medical device headwinds, 2% to 3% natural pricing pressure per year. So that delta should start to dissipate, which gives us a lot of confidence going into our out-years.

Kyle Rose analyst
#26

Good. That will -- selfishly that'll make the modeling a bit easier moving forward.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#27

It should.

Kyle Rose analyst
#28

And then something you undertook last year as well was with the shift to the pharmacy and the focus on type 2s as well, you almost doubled your sales force. So maybe kind of just refresh us on the headcount additions there and what that's structurally done to your commercial-facing org in the U.S.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#29

Sure. I'll start with the headcount. And then, Sean, maybe you can take them through some of the things we've been doing to make them more effective. So in 2021, we doubled the size of our sales force, a lot of benchmarking. We redrew territories, made sure that we set up our sales force for a couple of different things. One, we wanted to call on more primary care physicians. Our research showed that we called on endocrinologists and high-prescribing decile PCPs. But we knew in order for us to go to the market we needed to, we needed to redraw those coverage maps. So we did that, doubled the size of the sales force and did so during COVID. And so as you're calling on new physicians, you're trying to do so during COVID. Sean will get into kind of what we've done this year to help augment that. We did that. The hiring took place incredibly quick. And those folks are up and running today. And they're up and running in a way that finally we see as expected. We also increased our direct-to-consumer advertising, knowing that the primary care physician is where we needed to be. And also knowing that this investment was really a long-term investment in nature because we still do believe that type 2 nonintensive basal insulin users and folks that are on orals is eventually where this product goes. And so we needed to make those head roads in those primary care offices where those folks are seeing. So there's only a bet on today's market. It's a bet on tomorrow's market and making that investment. So good year 2021 got some of the inroads. But really 2022 is where we're starting to hit our stride. And Sean, you can probably mention what we did in Q2.

Sean Christensen executive
#30

Yes. To Jeremy's point, it's really about taking the investment in the sales force and then maximizing the efficiency as they call upon new prescribers. And so one of the things that we've been doing is, I mean, it starts with market research, understanding what the perception of our company is amongst clinicians, figuring out where we need to invest to grow their perception and understanding not only of our product, but of the experience of their customers, the experience of them with their clinical workflows. And so we've taken all of that feedback and we've equipped our sales force with some tools, just some dashboard tools that they can take into a primary care office and really give an accurate perspective related to some of the competitive selling dynamics and patient out-of-pocket costs, some very fundamental things that we found were -- have been largely obscured in terms of clinical perception. So I think to Jeremy's point, in terms of the U.S. performance in Q2, I think that's largely a validation of the investment in the sales force, not only in terms of the people, but the investment in terms of making them efficient as they call on doctors. And that's again, one of the reasons we're hopeful from the back for an acceleration into the second half in the U.S.

Kyle Rose analyst
#31

And I want to spend the last couple of minutes that we have touching on some of the innovations and not necessarily the sensor portfolio, but on the software side of things. Because if I go back to an Analyst Day, I think it was not your prior one, it was 5, 6 years ago, I mean, Kevin Sayer, the CEO, said, over time, like I expect this to look like a software company. We are already seeing multiple products coming on the market with Dexcom ONE and G7. So we're seeing diversification across the portfolio. But what are we -- where is the innovation coming on the software side, both on the apps that are facing the patients, but then also on some of the solutions like the real-time API, things of that sort and those types of partnerships you're putting together?

Jereme Sylvain executive
#32

Yes. I think you kind of hit where those are starting to come out. I know we've been making that shift for a while. But effectively, what we see is there's 2 different pieces here. There's going to be a back end, and I'll start with the back end. And then maybe, Sean, you could cover the front end. So the back end, we've always believed our goal was to sell as many sensors as possible. And one of the ways to do that is to be a partner with as many folks as possible. So take the experience of the individual user in our app, and Sean can cover that in a second. But not everybody is going to want to use our app for all features. And someone's going to want to use it for, say, level 2, which is UnitedHealthcare. They want to use that for more than just glucose monitoring, although glucose monitoring is at the center of it. So we've been investing in connectivity. So the real-time API, why that's important is it's an FDA approved, which is very important because most of these entities don't have a clinical and regulatory team designed around getting things through the FDA. We've ultimately put those in place so that folks could easily partner with us, so we can be the sensor that powers an ecosystem of apps. Similar with real time -- I'm sorry, app and app. So we have STKs that are ultimately -- STKs that are available where you can ultimately integrate data into somebody else's app so that you can be met in the app of your choice, but it's powered by Dexcom. That vision, we believe, not only supports our existing intensive insulin base, but we also believe it really supports the future of CGM use. So we're going to continue to invest in that and really build Dexcom as the ecosystem of choice. But we're also then investing on the front end, which is our app and our ecosystem of apps. And maybe you can cover what we're doing there on G7, D1.

Sean Christensen executive
#33

Yes. I think our focus from a software development standpoint in terms of our own development is certainly around the customer experience. We -- innovation always starts with the question, and Kevin would be the first one to say this, what problem are we trying to solve? And that problem is -- those problems will ultimately start with our customers and understanding what they need to do to flourish in their diabetes management. And so we're investing heavily there. We continue to -- with G7, we believe we'll take a nice step forward from an app experience standpoint. And I think one of the things that excites us about the G7 app experience is not only that initial kind of customer-facing app, but also the ability to iterate. It's a much more kind of modular design by nature that enables us to -- will enable us to iterate moving forward in the future and take some of the dollars that we're investing in software and ultimately continue to build and bring forth actionable solutions that help our customers.

Kyle Rose analyst
#34

Yes. So we'll take one question from the audience here for the final one.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#35

In the U.S. [indiscernible] in revenues or [indiscernible].

Jereme Sylvain executive
#36

In revenues.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#37

So you don't mean to say that it's going to be better positioned than [indiscernible].

Jereme Sylvain executive
#38

That too, both. But what we said in terms of acceleration was focused on revenue, but we do expect to have very strong new patient starts in the U.S. for the back half of the year, too.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#39

[indiscernible].

Jereme Sylvain executive
#40

Sure. At scale, the operating margin is very similar. We're not at scale yet. And so today, we're obviously navigating through that. The gross margin will be a little bit impacted because the price point is a little bit lower. However, the service model is different, and thus, our OpEx burden is a little bit lower. And so the net operating margin across both of them is very similar.

Kyle Rose analyst
#41

Great. I'm getting the red light. We've got more questions, but we're going to have to save them for another time. So thank you very much, gentlemen.

Jereme Sylvain executive
#42

Thanks, Kyle.

Kyle Rose analyst
#43

Appreciate it.

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