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Fagron NV (FAGR) Earnings Call Transcript

October 13, 2022

Euronext Brussels BE Health Care Health Care Providers and Services trading_statement 82 min

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Operator operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to the Fagron's Third Quarter 2022 Trading Update Call. My name is Laura and I will be your coordinator for today's event. Please note this call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I will now hand you over to your host, Karen Berg, to begin today's conference. Thank you.

Karen Berg executive
#2

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. My name is Karen Berg, Head of Investor Relations at Fagron. Thank you for joining this call where we will discuss the Q3 trading update for Fagron. We will start with an explanation of the results by Rafael Padilla and then we will hand the floor over for questions which will be answered by Rafael and Karin, our CFO. Thank you all. And I would like to hand over to Rafa.

Rafael Padilla executive
#3

Thank you, Karen. Good morning, all. Welcome to our Q3 and 9 months trading update. Before Karin and I take your questions, we'll go through the presentation where we will explain our Q3 and 9 months' revenues. We will then elaborate on our current macroeconomic developments and how these play in the different regions where we operate. We'll discuss on the increasing regulatory environment and how we work to ensure the highest quality standards. And we'll then finalize later in the year our full year guidance. Moving to the next slide. When we look at our 9 months revenue, we see an increase from the EUR 419 million of last year to the EUR 0.5 billion mark supported by all regions, strong M&A execution and ForEx tailwind. When we deep dive in the quarter, EMEA shows a 10% growth supported by the 3 business segments where we operate, essentials, the raw materials, brands, our added value products and compounding services, both sterile and non-sterile. LatAm shows the same picture, with 60% total growth supported by all 3 segments. In North America, with 39% total growth with compounding services and essentials strong and brands showing a decrease being a reflection of current operating environment. Moving to the next slide regarding our Q3 operations. At a global level, we continue to see a disrupted supply chain and inflationary pressure. A good example is sterile syringe shortage in Wichita. We counteract, as explained several times, globalizing our procurement and supply teams in order to limit this impact. Following our sustainability strategy, we committed to set science-based emission reduction targets. On an organizational note, we have appointed Geraldino Neder as LatAm Area Leader. Geraldino has more than 30 years' experience in the Brazilian compounding market, being 12 years already at Fagron. He brings strong commercial and innovation expertise. Jumping to the regions. EMEA's growing trajectory continues as a result of the strategic actions taken, a centralized production, streamlined back office and brand rationalization in the Benelux. In a very relevant note, our Compounding Services activities in the Netherlands continue showing further stabilization. For this region, continuous progress on price pass-through exercise is very important and we are making good progress here. Finally, our GMP repackaging facility in Poland is fully operational and we start seeing the benefits out. Going into LatAm, we see a continuation of softened end-user demand this quarter, resulting in increased competitive intensity. In order to maintain market leadership and drive operational efficiencies, we're executing on back and front office projects and centralizing all our warehouses activities, being this finalized at the second semester of next year and optimizing our brands by merging 3 of them into 1 to gain efficiency and improve innovation capabilities. To finalize, we continuously assess opportunities to strengthen our market leading position in the second biggest compounding market in the world. Moving into North America. We clearly see a strong underlying demand on the 3 segments where we operate. Going to each one then. During this third quarter, at our B&E division and due to the Minneapolis warning letter, we have started the transfer of sales to our Letco facility. This part of our original integration plan has been now accelerated. Within the frame of the remediation plan of the Minneapolis warning letter, we have voluntarily put some batches on hold, causing a displacement of sales into the next 2 quarters as we satisfactory release that. Moving into FSS, with a current run rate of 88 million (sic) [ $83 million ] and as we flagged at the semester update, we continued experiencing strong syringe shortage, worsened during this quarter. We do not expect to get it better during this fourth quarter. To remedy this and secure constant supply, we are, as we speak, validating 2 new syringe suppliers. This process takes approximately 6 months. We are very pleased with the evolution of our new FSS Boston facility, as our commercial team is onboarding several new customers and taking advantage of the sterile-to-sterile IV bags capabilities we have there. Integration with Boston is going according to plan. Finally, on our Health and Wellness division, Anazao, we see good developments in the third quarter, especially at our Vegas facility. As during the last week of the last month, our Tampa facility could not ship because of the Hurricane Ian. Also the rest of our business in North America could not ship into the Southeast, especially in Florida, due to the hurricane. One final note, and clearly post COVID, we see increased regulatory scrutiny of the FDA. And moving to the next slide, we will take the chance to explain how the FDA's audit process works. A facility is being normally inspected under 2 years. After that, in most of the cases, an observational report is being prepared. The company, in a real basis, updates agency and depending how this evolves, it can be closed or a warning letter is issued where the same process of regular updates continues. When we look at our facilities in the U.S., currently at Minneapolis, we are updating regularly the agency on our remediation plan. As said, a displacement of sales to the next 2 quarters and transfer to the Letco facility is now ongoing. In Wichita, we received an audit in March this year with 6 observations. We delivered our final response in April and now we wait for the close-out report. At Anazao, Vegas, we were audited in July and received 5 observations. We are now in the response process. For the other facilities, at Tampa, we received the last inspection in 2019. At Letco, in March this year and at Boston, a remote assessment in 2021, all of them with no pending observations. And as quality leadership -- moving to the next slide, Karen, please, is in our industry a differentiation factor. We, as the global market leader in the niche market of pharmaceutical compounding, we benefit from a resilient business with diversified geographical presence and the broadest product portfolio in the industry with favorable underlying trends as demographics and personalization. As we have seen, we have strong M&A execution capabilities and we have as well strong financial profile with high cash generating operations and a net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 2.2. And finalizing, going to the next slide, Karen. We reiterate our full year guidance. We will, excluding the Boston acquisition, book revenues between EUR 670 million and EUR 600 (sic) [ 690 ] million with better margins in the second semester compared to the first one. Thank you very much. Now time for questions.

Operator operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] We will now take our first question from Frank of Degroof.

Frank Claassen analyst
#5

Frank Claassen, Degroof Petercam. Three questions, please. First of all, you mentioned the Hurricane Ian as impacting your revenues. Could you quantify this in Q3? And will it also have an impact in Q4? Then on the Boston facility, the acquisition, what did you do so far on the integration? And what level -- you indicated now run rate roughly $15 million. What kind of run rate do you envisage to get to the breakeven target for the end of next year? And then finally, on pricing. Could you elaborate here what did you do so far? How easy is it to pass on the higher raw material prices? And does it also have an impact on your gross margin already?

Karin de Jong executive
#6

So thank you, Frank. Maybe to start with your first question on the hurricane. So indeed, we have a facility in Tampa, so that's the Anazao facility that was impacted by the hurricane in the last couple of days of September. So the last couple of days of the months were impacted. Those sales will be shipped out in the first week of the next quarter. So there we see some impact, but it's limited to a couple of days. And next to that, we also see that shipping into the states to customers we have in specific states was difficult during that period. So that impacted also the other companies we have shipping into that specific states, but again, as mentioned, that sales that will be shipped in the early of quarter 4. So we don't quantify it. It's a couple of days which moved from one quarter to another quarter.

Rafael Padilla executive
#7

Thank you, Frank. Let's take the Boston question. When we acquired the Boston facility, as we speaked during the semester call, we had revenues of low double digit at that time. Now what we're doing, we are, first of all, integrating on the sales side all the activities. So this means that our existing commercial team that was, of course, selling the Wichita plant, is now offering as well the solutions that we make -- we produce in Boston. That's mainly the sterile-to-sterile IV bags. So this is now taken in their portfolio. And next to this, as we also explained, we are applying for new licenses. We are now licensed in 11 states and we're applying for 9 states like California, Texas and Florida.

Karin de Jong executive
#8

Maybe on your third question on the pricing element. So indeed, as we explained during our semester results, we see inflationary impact throughout our businesses. But we are able to pass on price increases towards our customers despite the fact that it's different within the different regions. So in the U.S., it's easier to pass on price increases. Brazil is a very dynamic market, so there's always price competitiveness on top line. For EMEA, we can pass on our price increases over time. So we start doing that already early this year and we see that continuing very well. So we'll keep on doing that for the next couple of quarters. So we can pass on the price increases and compensate for the inflationary impact we see through the regions.

Frank Claassen analyst
#9

And do you already see, as a result, the gross margin improvement because of these price increases?

Karin de Jong executive
#10

Yes. As said, this is of course a trading update, but we reiterate the guidance we have given. So we expect that we see an improvement in our profitability for the second half of this year.

Frank Claassen analyst
#11

Okay. That's clear. And coming back on Boston. What kind of run rate of revenues do you need to get to breakeven? Could you elaborate on that?

Rafael Padilla executive
#12

Yes. So in the original plan, as we communicated, it will take approximately between 12 to 18 months to bring it to breakeven. We are on track with the plan. And again, we are very pleased because we're onboarding new customers with the existing sales force that we have now.

Frank Claassen analyst
#13

But no number to...

Rafael Padilla executive
#14

Yes, sure, Frank. As we explained during the last call, during the full year results, we will elaborate on the figures of the Boston facility.

Frank Claassen analyst
#15

Okay. That's fair enough.

Operator operator
#16

Thank you. We'll now take our next question here from Stijn of ING.

Stijn Demeester analyst
#17

Yes. Three questions if I may and all are related to Wichita. The first one is basically on '23 (sic) [ '22 ] as you are cutting your year-end sales guidance by some EUR 30 million in sales, should we factor in a similar cuts to our '23 assumptions? So what confidence do you have that you can recuperate these sales over the course of the year? Is it simply a function of pent-up demand which you can cater to as the syringes come in? Or are there additional risks related to the ramp-up? Secondly, I think a couple of quarters ago, you mentioned the double shift and hiring of 70 new people. Does this -- is this plan somewhat affected by the recent events? Or is it still continuing as progress? And actually there then be an impact on the margin that you can sort of earn on Wichita? And then the last question is on the new syringe suppliers. You mentioned that it takes 6 months. When exactly did you start with that process of finding new suppliers and when should we sort of think about the problem to be resolved? These are the questions I have.

Karin de Jong executive
#18

Okay. Thank you, Stijn. Maybe to start, and Rafa will also jump in on the more specifics regarding the syringes. So on the run rate, indeed, what we see is that there's supply chain shortages on the syringes. Most of our products that is coming from Wichita are the syringes. So we see impact on our run rate and sales going forward. However, we do see this as a temporary impact. The underlying demand in that market is very strong. So from that point, any issues going forward, it's more on the supply side. And there, we took action on getting 2 new suppliers for the syringes on board. So we expect this to be temporary. And that doesn't mean that we go back on the fact that we expect the run rate to keep on growing. It grew slightly in the third quarter. We expect to continue to grow in the fourth quarter despite the fact that we see an impact on the syringe supplies for that sector.

Stijn Demeester analyst
#19

Sorry, if I may here. When you say that the run rate grew slightly in Q3 versus Q2, is that including Boston or organically?

Karin de Jong executive
#20

No, that's organically. Organically.

Rafael Padilla executive
#21

That's, Stijn, the 88 million (sic) [ $83 million ] that we said during the presentation, right? And on the -- on your question specifically on the operations, the third shift is in place. So we are prepared because, as Karin said, the demand is strong. The underlying demand is very strong in that market. And on the onboarding of those 2 new suppliers, so we received already the syringes. And now we are in the validation process. So this means that the SKUs that we prepare on the prefilled syringes, we need to do validation studies and this takes approximately 6 months. So we'll have these new suppliers ready to go ahead, ready to go into the production during the first semester next year.

Stijn Demeester analyst
#22

Okay. And then on the sort of margin that you could expect given the new hires and sort of lower run rate sales which would suggest that sort of breakeven point is a bit -- I mean not breakeven point that, that operationally or profitability-wise, it could be somewhat lower also for '23.

Karin de Jong executive
#23

Yes. So on the longer term, I think there's enough volume to create leverage and increase profitability levels for that -- for Wichita, for that site. It, of course, will have a slight impacts. But again, we reiterate our guidance and we will see for the overall an improvement in profitability. On the longer term, we believe that a third shift is needed to cover the volume and we will create some leverage.

Operator operator
#24

Thank you. We'll now move on to our next question from Matthias of Kepler.

Matthias Maenhaut analyst
#25

Yes. Maybe three left. Maybe first on Latin America. There, clearly, organic growth is slowing further. Could you maybe elaborate on the price volume mix and also on the measures you have taken? You mentioned streamlining operations. Could you maybe elaborate on what that just implies and how you are going to revive the organic growth there? That's my first question. I will ask them one by one.

Karin de Jong executive
#26

Maybe to start with the price volume mix. So we see that we are slightly increasing our volumes, but we do have negative pricing impact in that market.

Rafael Padilla executive
#27

Yes. Matthias, on the streamlining projects that we are launching in LatAm, especially in Brazil, so when you look at the back office side, we have already centralized all the back office admin activities in Sao Paulo. And now we are centralizing all our warehouse activities. So each brands have their own warehouse and now we bring them together into a centralized warehouse that will, of course, improve our logistics and our service capabilities to the market. Nextly, on the front side, we are now starting an exercise of optimizing our brand. So we took 3 of our 6 brands in the Brands and Essentials division, and we're going to bring it into one. And by this, we're going to have more innovation power because -- and going to your last question on how are we going to grow again organically? There, you need to have 2 things. First of all, availability of products and for good starting price. We are quite solid there. We are a market leader. We maintain market leadership position. So we are good there. And then on the second side, innovation. So it's the market that innovation and branded products really help and we are proving our innovation pipeline. And of course, with this branch optimization, this one will improve.

Matthias Maenhaut analyst
#28

Yes. Okay. Would you say you're losing market share at this point in time in Brazil?

Rafael Padilla executive
#29

Not at all. Not at all. We are maintaining market share. It's a market where data it's -- is very clear. And at this moment, we are maintaining our current market share.

Matthias Maenhaut analyst
#30

Okay. So it's more a market-related issue than a company-specific one?

Rafael Padilla executive
#31

Yes, softening of consumer. You see it on the 4 years and it's not new for us. We have seen also in the past, on the 4 years, you have election, you have World Cup, consumer demand decreases a bit and then you fill it back. Nevertheless, with the actions that we already have taken and as well we forgot to mention on the new GMP packaging site we have in Annapolis. It's giving us muscle power in order to maintain and improve our market leadership.

Matthias Maenhaut analyst
#32

Okay. Then the second question is actually on Wichita and the syringes. Could you maybe just elaborate on the process it takes to add additional suppliers, because this is an issue that was effectively flagged at H1 results already. And I hear from Karin that you have onboarded additional suppliers. I was just wondering, is there a reason why you can't move faster? Because clearly, it's impacting your Q3 but will also impact your Q4 sales. So if you would maybe elaborate a little bit on that onboarding process and what -- why it's effectively taking quite a while before you have additional suppliers?

Rafael Padilla executive
#33

Sure, Matthias. And we have seen during Q3 that the situation did get worse, right, on the supply of these sterile syringes. So we have onboarded 2 new suppliers. And how it worked, you get the syringe, you make the media fills and then you go into validation process. And when all the tests are satisfactory, then business supplier is being validated and now you can go into production. And this takes approximately 6 months.

Matthias Maenhaut analyst
#34

Okay. And then last question is effectively on this third shift and we then --I am a bit puzzled. Can you maybe elaborate on what the margin headwind is from that third shift? Because previously, when you added from 1 to 2 shifts, the impact was quite substantial. And I still see that you guide for H2 margin ahead of H1. So I am a bit puzzled given that your organic growth performance is clearly below your own expectations effectively, if I look at your guidance. So could you maybe give us a little bit more color on what kind of margin headwind we would expect maybe on North American and group level from this third shift? And what is going to be the driver that your H2 margin will be above H1, please. What gives you this confidence?

Karin de Jong executive
#35

Yes. So maybe on the third shift, so that's not easy to quantify. Of course, we monitor the number of people with the volumes that go into the facility, yes. So it's a balancing act on how many people you add to your third shift and what the impact on profitability is. So we do expect some growth in the fourth quarter and we balance the number of people in the facility based on the expected production batches and volumes we have. So we will have some impact. However, we are positive that the market continues to develop in the right direction. So demand is growing. Overall, I think for the entire group, if you look at the profitability margin, I think we start increasing prices towards our customers in EMEA. We started that a couple of quarters ago. We continuing doing that, has been positive benefit from that point of view. Also the operational excellence we achieved by the facility in Poland which we have positive benefit. We expect to -- Brazil in H2 to be better than H1. Traditionally, so Q4 is always good. So we are positive. We don't see that the third shift will have a huge impacts on the profitability margins for the group in total.

Matthias Maenhaut analyst
#36

Okay. And just as a background, if you say we can balance a little bit this third shift and function of the volumes that we can. Let's say rehire those people quite quickly at the day that your supply chain issues are resolved and you have to cater for the strength of the market.

Rafael Padilla executive
#37

Right. Here, Matthias, you can make a comparison with the supply of the syringes, the new suppliers that we are seeing on the validation, right, so you get the new colleagues on board and you need to go through training and also validating your room, right? We have the controlled environmental monitor. So this is a process that takes time. It's not like we put the new colleagues and up and running, right? So you get the training. But also again, because we're working in sterile environment, you need to do the control, again, assess environmental monitoring and this takes some time, right? So we want to be prepared when we have the volumes in, because again, as Karin said, the demand -- the underlying demand is there. It's strong. I see that well with Boston that our current commercial teams are awarding several new customers the Boston facility with the sterile-to-sterile IV bags capability that we have there, right? So when the volumes we'll be prepared to deliver those volumes to the market from our Wichita facility.

Operator operator
#38

[Operator Instructions] We'll now move on to our next question from Christophe of Kempen.

Christophe Beghin analyst
#39

I have 2 questions. First one is if you can give a qualitative statement on how cash generation was in Q3 and how working capital did evolve? And the second question is -- let's take question by question, sorry.

Karin de Jong executive
#40

Yes. So on that, Christophe, as you know, it's a trading update, so we don't specifically quantify anything on working capital or our cash flow. I think the fundamentals of the business are -- and remain the same. So we saw during H1 a small increase in working capital above 12%. We don't expect that to decrease in the second semester. And secondly, on cash generation, of course, those fundamentals are also not changed. So it will be, I think, on cash generation, a very solid year.

Christophe Beghin analyst
#41

Okay. That's what I wanted to hear. Then the second question is with regard to FDA audit. It seems that FDA is catching up with auditing 503B facilities in the U.S. in general. Do you have an idea how the audits are at competitors? Because I can see that QuVa has been audited recently and many other direct competitors. I don't want to hear some names, but do you have an idea how, let's say, conclusions of these audits were?

Rafael Padilla executive
#42

Yes, so Christophe, it varies on each company, on each site even, right? And we see that some are -- most of them get the observations then it's being translated into the 503B. Some are being resolved, some continue. And you get this evolution with the agency. Some of them have recalls even in this industry because if you are talking about sterile products, so you have recalls. And what you see is that maintaining the highest quality standards, it's a competitive advantage in the industry, right? So we as Fagron are ensuring that one. And then that the market will consolidate because of regulation and quality, that's very clear for us.

Operator operator
#43

We'll now take our next question from Jeroen of KBC Securities. Please go ahead.

Jeroen Van den Bossche analyst
#44

Yes. I'll start with one. Going back to the North America region. First, following up on the FDA audits. Can you provide some more color as to the -- as a new, let's say, issues are, where they tend to land and what your expectation is with regarding to not having that warning letter? How serious are these -- the audits, let's say, issues?

Rafael Padilla executive
#45

Jeroen, regarding Anazao, as I said, we recently had the audit. We had 5 observational points and we are responding them. And after responding, we think we are quite confident that we'll be very successful there. We will get the close-up letter from the FDA. So this is how the process normally goes. It's a 503B facility and we have always had satisfactory results there, and we are quite confident that, together with the team, we will close the letter as well.

Jeroen Van den Bossche analyst
#46

Fair enough. And then maybe following up and maybe a bizarre question here. Since Fagron is the only global compounder with, let's say, more supply lines, I imagine, than other competitors. Of course, most of these in North American region are in private hands. But does that ultimately provide opportunity for Fagron on the longer term? Are you able now with the new, let's say, supply lines for the syringes, do you expect that longer term you'll be able to take a bigger market share in the U.S. due to your, let's say, additional supply lines?

Rafael Padilla executive
#47

Yes. Continue, sorry, I thought you were finished.

Jeroen Van den Bossche analyst
#48

As compared to your competitors specifically where they might not have that access?

Rafael Padilla executive
#49

Yes. So as we said in the last calls, we are in the process of globalizing our procurement and supply team. So this gives benefits, right? As you said, the network is -- it's bigger, right? And you can take some benefits there. Again, going to the highest quality standards, that's a very important point for that industry. And of course, with supplies, you can help one company to each other, right? But again, the crucial factor is maintaining highest quality standards in the industry.

Jeroen Van den Bossche analyst
#50

Okay. Maybe one last final question. With regards to EMEA, okay, everything seems to be on track there. But specifically with Belgium, you have a high impact, well, a mandatory indexation obviously. What can we expect there with regards to the Netherlands? Is there -- while it's not mandatory, should we also calculate a massive salary increase there going into the future?

Karin de Jong executive
#51

Yes. So that's a good question. In Belgium, it's indeed compulsory to increase. It's one of the only countries where we are active in Europe where that's the case. So in the Netherlands, it's not the case. And in a lot of countries, it's not the case. So we have to see next year. I think a lot of companies have the same. Of course, you need to balance our OpEx and our increases into elements in energy and wages with balancing price increases. So overall, we will try to have operational efficiencies to monitor that and strict OpEx control. But it's not the case that it's obliged in all countries we're in to increase wages. It's more an exception like in Belgium that it's inflation-related and it's obliged to do that.

Operator operator
#52

We'll move on to our next question from Eric of ABN AMRO.

Eric Wilmer analyst
#53

I've got a few left. I think Fagron has made welcome steps to become more transparent, evidenced by your cautious wording on the LatAm markets as well as the mentioning of the Anazao FDA observations. But that being said, on the guidance front, I'm a bit surprised why you did not already lower the Wichita guidance at Q2 as the syringe shortages are such an important part of Wichita's growth story? So basically, what -- and that's my first question. What in your view has changed so drastically during Q3 for you to lower the Wichita guide now and not yet during at Q2?

Rafael Padilla executive
#54

Yes, sure. Thanks a lot, Wilmer and thank you for the comments that you made. On that respect, during the call, we said that we would be able to get to the $125 million run rate when the syringe supply would stabilize, right? So how does it work? The producers that we have validated, the 2 of them, they have committed supply to their customers. We are 1 of them, right? And what you have normally seen during this month is that this supply to the customers in the respect to us has not been, most of the times, respected in the on time, in full, right? So sometimes, maybe on time but not in full. So not the full batch as they had to split into several customers. So we were quite confident on the fact that, of course, as the demand is there, as the orders are there, as the customers want to order with us, right, that we could deliver those when the syringes, those supplies, would come to our facility. But the fact is that in Q3, the situation worsened. We can -- we hear many times that, okay, we will deliver the full batch to you, but that's not the case. So we want to be here, as you said, right, transparency, okay, when the syringes come, we may have a better result. Nevertheless, with the experience that we had in Q3, we are now comfortable with the guidance that we gave today. And we're going to see how this works. Again, you didn't ask, but I want to add the Boston facility offers us nice opportunities and the sales team now are also offering the product range that we can produce at Boston.

Eric Wilmer analyst
#55

Okay. The next question is on Brands in North America. I think like-for-like sales were down by about 10%. To what degree is this driven by the -- or is this related by the FDA warnings from your Minnesota facility? Could you break down that 10% a little bit from the -- what has been driving that?

Karin de Jong executive
#56

Yes, I think it's a quarterly thing. So a big part of that is related to the FDA as Minneapolis also delivers Brands next to other suppliers. So we expect some recovery in the fourth quarter of that.

Eric Wilmer analyst
#57

Okay. And then 2 more remaining small questions. One is on Brazil. You just mentioned Q4 usually strong. Maybe it's on my end, but could you remind me why is Q4 usually strong for Brazil margin-wise again?

Rafael Padilla executive
#58

Yes, here you have seasonality, right? So you enter into the summer months and the compounding market in Brazil, it's mainly focused on the health and wellness, and these kind of products have traction during this period, Eric.

Eric Wilmer analyst
#59

Okay. That's very helpful. And then lastly, M&A pipeline. You kicked off this year actually rather actively. So I was wondering how are you looking at this. I think last quarter was, let's say, more muted. So how do you look at the next couple of quarters if we should look at your M&A pipeline?

Rafael Padilla executive
#60

Yes, sure. So as we said, we reiterate, we have now a dedicated team. We're working, as we know, with the funnel, right? We have many candidates in the funnel. They may move or not and we are assessing different opportunities in all the markets that we're active in.

Operator operator
#61

We'll now take our last question from Maarten Verbeek of The Idea.

Maarten Verbeek analyst
#62

It's Maarten Verbeek for The Idea. Firstly, does your Boston facility have a syringes supplier as well?

Rafael Padilla executive
#63

Yes. This one, Maarten, we -- the Boston facility is more dedicated to sterile-to-sterile IV bags production. That's how the facility is set up. So you have...

Maarten Verbeek analyst
#64

So they don't have a syringes supplier?

Rafael Padilla executive
#65

No.

Maarten Verbeek analyst
#66

Okay. You stated you're not going to make your goal for FSS Wichita and you more or less blame it on the syringes, which is a large part of your business. However, you also have your IV bags and your epidurals and catheters. Do they live up to the expectation which was incorporated in the $125 million?

Rafael Padilla executive
#67

Yes, so that's a very good question because they do, right? You see quarter-on-quarter that we are increasing. So we're picking up with the revenues. And this is mainly this year originated by the IV bags, and then with the 2 new pharmaceutical forms, the epidural and catheters. That's correct.

Maarten Verbeek analyst
#68

Perfect. So they are on track?

Rafael Padilla executive
#69

They are on track, for sure.

Operator operator
#70

We have no further questions in the queue. [Operator Instructions] I didn't see any questions in queue. I will now hand you back over to your host, Karen, to conclude today's conference. Thank you.

Karen Berg executive
#71

Thank you, Laura, and thank you for all the questions and everyone dialing in and listening in. I wish you all a great day and looking forward to see you again in February to discuss our full year reports.

Operator operator
#72

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.

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