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Masimo Corporation (MASI) Earnings Call Transcript

November 17, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Frederick Wise analyst
#1

Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back. It is my privilege and pleasure -- great pleasure this afternoon to welcome Masimo, and specifically, to welcome my good friend, Micah Young, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Masimo. Micah has done an extraordinary job in the 2, 3 years now, Micah, that you've been there. Time flies when you're working hard. And it is great to see you today and dive into some of the topics that we've heard about and learned about on your recent quarterly call. Micah -- I apologize to everybody, every time, as we start these, for bringing up COVID, again. It's such an overwhelming issue. Every day, seems like the numbers get worse and the situation more complicated. And I know, for Masimo, there's a complex set of puts and takes that COVID brings.

Frederick Wise analyst
#2

Can you talk about sort of the continuing evolution of this challenge for you? And how we should think about the -- this recent second or third wave impacting the company for the rest of the year and in terms of setting you up for '21?

Micah Young executive
#3

Yes. So some of the puts and takes we're thinking about as we move into 2021, I'm not -- we haven't provided guidance for next year, but some of the kind of the high-level theme is that we're expecting to see improving growth rates from our single patient-use sensors. If you recall this year, of course, with the deferral of elective procedures back in March and that kind of persisted and impacted our sensor volumes in the second quarter, they were down 8% in the second quarter worldwide. I think the U.S. was down about 13% in the second quarter. And then we saw a recovery back in the third quarter where our worldwide sensor volumes were up 6%. So a nice rebound, and it's been a steady rebound through the third quarter, and we are implying in our guidance this year that we'll continue to see it recover as procedures are recovering. It will be a steady recovery. And if you think about that for next year, we expect that to be an increasing sensor volumes for next year and higher growth rates on what will be easier comps in the second and third quarter of this year in 2020. And if you think about the growth rates, in addition to the surgical procedures recovering and our sensor volumes recovering, we also have a large and growing installed base of newly installed monitors this year, and that was -- that's been up about 17% increase in our installed base. So with what we've shipped out this year, we've shipped about 470,000 driver shipments in 2020, and that's 2 -- more than 2x -- around 2x our normal run rate. We typically ship around 60,000 per quarter or 240,000. So that increase of 17% in our installed base, we're expecting that, that's going to generate incremental sensor revenues in addition to the recovery in the sensor volumes on some of those easier comps in the second and third quarter. The comps in the first quarter for sensors next year will be a little bit compressed or tougher comps because we did have some additional sensor buying and stocking with some hospitals there in the first quarter, but second and third quarter, much easier comps compared to 2020. The other thing is, that will be offset to some extent by tougher comps related to the stronger demand that we've seen for our technology boards and instruments in 2020. As I mentioned before, we've seen record driver shipments this year and record growth in the installed base, and with that, came very strong ordering for capital equipment. And we expect to see those shipments next year returning back to that 60,000 per quarter range and about 240,000 for the year. So that's kind of back-to-normal levels. If we see the sensors recovering back to normal levels as well as the capital equipment, that should also steadily improve our gross margins as we head into next year as our product mix, which has been a pretty significant headwind for us in 2020, as that returns to normal next year. We've already guided this year, we were -- I believe our margins were about 64% in Q2, 64.5% in Q3, and then we've implied in our guidance about 65.8% in Q4, and we should see that steadily improve as we're seeing things normalize to back -- get back to normal business patterns. That being said, we also have about 100 basis points this year or more of headwinds due to COVID-related costs. We put a lot of safety measures in place within the manufacturing facilities, throughout our -- all of our facilities, really, for social distancing, making sure we've got the right protective equipment for our employees. And we've also seen significant costs in terms of our supply chain with some of the freight costs increasing as some of the carriers are passing through some higher costs as well. So we kind of quantify that as about 100 basis point headwind we're seeing this year, and we think that, that will continue through next year. So even though we're going to see nice improvement on gross margins, we still will have that 100 basis point headwind next year. So those are some of the key themes as we're thinking about 2021.

Frederick Wise analyst
#4

Right. And obviously, at some point, I guess, it'll go away or be resolved. And just to -- I didn't mean to jump into gross margins right away, but while we're talking about it, you very nicely laid out the second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter progression for 2020 and emphasized the 60,000 per quarter run rate normalized, if you will, next year. What kind -- all things equal, what kind of gross margin -- I'm not really asking for a question, I'm sort of saying, what is a normalized gross margin that, that kind of run rate would imply? I appreciate there's still going to be puts and takes related to COVID costs, et cetera.

Micah Young executive
#5

Yes. Just at a high level, Rick, I think -- the way to think about it is we guided to about 68% this year, which is about 100 basis points coming into the year improvement over 2019. We are making nice improvements there, tracking well until the pandemic hit, and what we saw is -- the headwinds we're seeing, we're seeing probably over 200 basis points of headwinds due to the product mix. If you normalize for that, we would expect to be back up closer to that 68% next year. However, we've got also that 100 basis points of headwinds that will still persist next year related to COVID, so maybe 68% comes down closer to 67%.

Frederick Wise analyst
#6

Got you. Yes, that makes sense. I appreciate that extra color. And back to the impact of COVID and second wave, I must say, every time I see any report about anything, I'm hearing about incremental pushback delays on elective procedures, again, particularly in the areas hardest hit, particularly in the heartland of the U.S., Upper Midwest, et cetera. Are you seeing that? And when you -- I don't know if the perimeter -- how the United States is recovering exactly, but when you think about your global business, does that incremental headwind of delay, whatever it is, does that get offset by strength elsewhere? How are we thinking about it in that term?

Micah Young executive
#7

Yes. I think -- I do believe that hospitals are better prepared for a second wave. If you go back to earlier this year and the first wave and the surge, a lot of hospitals were really trying to ramp up and increase their ICU bed capacity. And we saw a lot of that happen and take place in Q2 and a little bit in Q3. And we feel like they're prepared, much better prepared now for a second wave. That being said, we could see some additional incremental demand for those additional hospitals that may not have been prepared for that initial surge as well as the second wave. So that would be kind of a tailwind opportunity here that could offset any pullback in sensor volumes if elective procedures slow a bit in certain pockets or regions, either whether it's in Europe or -- because we're seeing some surge there or in the U.S. But we do believe that because hospitals are better prepared, they're going to be able to manage better and kind of sustain elective procedures in a better way than they did back in the second quarter of this year because they have a better -- they have better safety measures in place, and I think they can manage the COVID population in addition to maintaining their procedural volumes. But that being said, in the hard hit areas, you may see a little bit of pullback there.

Frederick Wise analyst
#8

All right. We've talked about general ward as a major opportunity. Joe has talked about it for a long time. Does COVID representing -- represent that final tipping point in terms of adoption? And just in the simplest terms, where are we today post the COVID's ramp-up with general ward penetration? And is this going to be a tailwind for you all for the foreseeable future?

Micah Young executive
#9

Yes. Yes, Rick, I think what we saw, a great example is back in the second quarter. When we saw the surge as hospitals were preparing and increasing that bed capacity for ICUs in the short term, we got pretty good visibility into our direct business. Even though that represents only 25% of the drivers that we ship, this other 75% goes into -- is our technology boards that go into OEM, multi-primer monitors, and goes into their inventory and then they sell it. But if you go back to kind of our direct business, what we saw in the second quarter was not only strong demand for our own Masimo brand equipment but we also saw a strong demand for Root with Vital Signs. And we saw Root sales, in terms of unit sales, up about 5x what their normal run rate is on a quarter. And that's encouraging because those customers are likely to not only increase capacity in the short run but adopt monitoring on the general floor over time. And I think another data point is our Patient SafetyNet installations, we had a record quarter of Patient SafetyNet installations. Our monitor beds -- and if you think about Patient SafetyNet, it's where you can monitor up to 200 patients centrally from a -- or from a central nursing station, and those can be on the general floor. And our increase in monitor beds was about 10% in the quarter in terms of installations. That typically takes 4 quarters or more to get to that kind of installed base increase. So that was a big indicator that we believe that there is -- we're kind of at that inflection point where we think we will see more adoption of continuous monitoring on the general floor.

Frederick Wise analyst
#10

Right. That's exciting to hear. I want to focus, if I could, on some -- your new product opportunities and -- as well the potential for M&A -- for further M&A, I should say. Masimo's SafetyNet is the one I always find intriguing. As of the third quarter, you had, I think, 140 accounts, if I remember correctly, and maybe some 2,000 customers evaluating. It's sort of a silly question, but just directly, how many of those 2,000 customers -- is it reasonable to -- or evaluating, assuming that pipeline will grow, is it reasonable to think about converting? And what's that -- how do we take sort of step 1, step 2, how do we take this step into -- what's that all mean for revenues? I don't even know how to take that final step.

Micah Young executive
#11

Yes. Absolutely. And if you think about it, Rick, we were in the process of working with the FDA on Opioid SafetyNet. And we took the majority of the elements of that platform, and we were able to reposition that with the FDA to help with COVID patients and help hospitals better manage COVID patients. So if you think about -- we already have the Radius PPG device. It's a wearable SET sensor device. And that was already out there and approved by the FDA, but we're still trying to get Opioid SafetyNet approved. And we're still in that process, but we were able to reposition it, get that out there, and what hospitals found was there's 2 use case models. There's one where they can use it in the hospital. It's tetherless device that monitors with SET pulse oximetry. They can put the patient in the room and move the equipment outside the room and monitor them from a distance. And that helped them manage those patients and reduce transmission risk of the disease. The other use case is being able to take those patients with Masimo's SafetyNet, where they can use the wearable pulse oximetry sensor in combination with a smartphone device and be able to do the monitoring at home and then transmit that back into the hospital or the clinician. And that allowed hospitals to basically manage the patients who are less severely ill with COVID or any other illness in the home, and then bring them back in when they become more severely ill, sorry. And that really freed up bed capacity -- helped hospitals free up bed capacity and better manage that patient population. So that's been a benefit. And hospitals are seeing that innovation, especially right now, during the pandemic, how we can help. And they're also thinking of more use case models as well in the future. And some of the things that we have definitely mentioned and talked about is expanding it to other disease states. So COVID is -- I don't think you're going to see a material amount of volumes to our overall revenues just from COVID patients because that's going to ebb and flow with the number of cases. But longer term, as we continue to expand the platform, not just with Opioid SafetyNet but also to manage other long-term chronic disease states such as COPD or CHF, that's where this application becomes a much broader application from going from the hospital into the home and taking more advantage of the telehealth capability that we have as a company. So I think that the adoption, we're hopeful that all 2,000 of those customers over time are going to see the innovation and convert. And we're seeing -- people who are seeing that innovation are also interested in a lot of the other things that we can do such as Hospital Automation because it's kind of -- it's -- they're seeing the cutting edge there, and they're wanting to learn more about Masimo.

Frederick Wise analyst
#12

So really, it could be a door opener or maybe the broader portfolio you're saying?

Micah Young executive
#13

That's right.

Frederick Wise analyst
#14

And so -- and I'm putting words in your mouth, Micah, but -- so you're saying just translating this early success into -- for an analyst, into dollars, it's hard to frame it, really. Is that -- I'm duck trying to give you an out and I'd like to give you -- it means XYZ.

Micah Young executive
#15

Yes. I mean Opioid SafetyNet, we've talked about that, that's -- that, we think, is a $4 billion to even potentially double that market opportunity for us. The opportunity to expand into other disease states and go broader in telehealth, we think, is just as big of an opportunity there. It's going to take some time. And I think for Opioid Safety, reimbursement is going to be a critical pathway for telehealth, and being able to expand to disease states, we don't necessarily have to have a formal labeling status there because we believe that we can monitor with the similar parameters that we're doing in the hospital. So that could be something that could get pretty early on adoption.

Frederick Wise analyst
#16

Got you. And so I was going to ask anyway Opioid SafetyNet, specifically. Any update, any incremental color, any more thoughts on timing of final approval? Or should -- and I don't know, if no, should we imagine that the political change and handing off the baton, if it gets handed in Washington, is making it more complicated now?

Micah Young executive
#17

Yes. I think the way we're looking at it is, we were hoping for approval earlier this year, and then, of course, COVID hit. And of course, we were able to reposition some products ourselves, but the FDA was clearly focused more around emergency use of authorization and those types of things. But we have been continuously working with the FDA, and they've been great to work with. And I think they're trying to -- they're asking the right questions. We initially submitted data for patients in the hospital. If you think about the Dartmouth-Hitchcock study and some of those types of studies, there's a wealth of data we have in the hospital setting for managing patients who are on opioids. What we don't have yet and what we're trying to gather is, basically, the data on patients that are outside of the hospital setting. If you go back to our Investor Day, we talked about going after -- kind of initially starting with the market of going after patients who are prescribed opioids post-surgery. So as they're discharged from the hospital, this device would go with them, or patients who are long-term chronic pain patients, and then third was the illicit use patients. And so we're trying to gain data there that's outside the hospital setting. And it's just a matter of time, we're collecting that data and we're hoping to submit soon. And our fingers are crossed, we're hoping maybe first half of next year, we could see this roll out.

Frederick Wise analyst
#18

I'm going to ask you sort of an off-the-wall question. But I mean, a year ago, on a call like this, the first question would have been, how are things going with Philips? I feel like people have stopped asking. And just as I was rereading the transcript, I thought, you know what, how are things going with Philips? Any update there? And has COVID or anything that's going on gotten that relationship or connection off track in any way or enhanced it maybe?

Micah Young executive
#19

No. I think it's been a very successful partnership. It was a partnership that probably had tension years ago, and now it's more one of collaboration. And I think we're making great progress, both outside the U.S. and even with things that we're doing here in the U.S. We had one of our strongest contracting years for rainbow back in 2019, and that rainbow technology is something that is -- we're trying to market and promote with alongside our OEMs in this -- particularly, Philips.

Frederick Wise analyst
#20

Going well. Good. Micah, the balance sheet remains in stellar shape. You have a lot of financial flexibility. You've done a couple of deals. How are you thinking about capital allocation over the next year? Do you feel like you're likely to be more active, less active? Is the M&A pipeline full? Like, what's going on?

Micah Young executive
#21

Yes. So I mean, you've seen this year. Over the course of the past 6 to 12 months, we've acquired -- completed 2 acquisitions already. We've had licensing deals, and we've also -- here recently, we have a pending acquisition. I can't get into a lot of details there. It still has to close. But -- so we've been very active from an M&A standpoint. What I can tell you is that's one of our main priorities. We're looking to really strengthen the business in a couple of areas. Number one is Hospital Automation, that's why we looked at the Connected Care, and we acquired that business from NantHealth. It gave us a very strong commercial footprint, a good implementation team for Hospital Automation, and it also gave us access to 400 customers for that area of our business. And if you think about TNI, which is the high-flow nasal therapy -- oxygen therapy, that business was an opportunity for us to enter kind of the respiratory space, but also a product that can be used in both the hospital as well as the home. So when we look at our strategy around acquisitions, a lot of our focus is going to be Hospital Automation. Is there anything we can do to augment that business? Hospital to home and telehealth. Those are some of the things that we're looking to really strengthen and give us -- add to our capabilities. But we also have a very robust pipeline of R&D internally. We've been investing 10% -- over 10% of our revenues in R&D, and you're starting to see a cadence of new product launches. We've been on a pace of nearly 1 per quarter over the past 2 years. So I think that M&A is number one. We're not earning much on our cash, rates are near 0, so I think the best return on the investment is through acquisitions.

Frederick Wise analyst
#22

All right. And I'm glad you brought up new products because I was going to ask you as well. Another aspect of '21, obviously, will be new product launches. You have been incredibly consistent and excellent in launching. What -- again, without announcing it, what should we be anticipating in '21? I mean are these incremental or major lead forwards? Are they growth accelerators or just enhancing the portfolio in the ecosystem? What can you say to us now about what to expect?

Micah Young executive
#23

Yes. I think -- well, first of all, Opioid SafetyNet would be an opportunity that would be a growth and could be -- it's digital. It's going to be either it takes off or it doesn't, but that's going to be something that could be a very strong growth -- new product for us. If you look at the common themes, Rick, the themes are kind of the hospital to home and more in the telehealth-type space and also wearables. I mean we've been -- if you look at Radius T, which is measuring continuous -- it's a continuous body temperature measurement, measures core body temperature, and that's sort of a wearable device, a patch that goes on the body. And then if you think about with Radius PPG that we came out with and with Centroid, where it really monitors body positioning and it can reduce pressure ulcers or bed sores. And bed sores are -- impact over 2.5 million people per year in the U.S., and there's 60,000 deaths a year as a result of it, and it's defined as a never event by CMS. So those are things that are valuable to hospital systems, and I'm really excited about those products like Centroid and Radius T. And we're just in the early stages of launching those. So those will start to contribute revenue over time. And I think back to the key theme is we'll be rolling out products that are kind of around those areas as we're thinking about hospital and going into the home.

Frederick Wise analyst
#24

Talk about the competitive environment a little bit. It's always hard to talk about Masimo competitively because, yes, you do have one very large competitor. But the reality is that -- I had another company at the Stifel Healthcare Conference, early today, talking about Connected Care and monitoring, everybody is doing it. Everybody is interested. Everybody seems to be sort of grabbing -- I don't know if it's grabbing a piece of Masimo's business, but talking about -- talking in language that I would have associated historically with Masimo. Is that a concern? Or is the opportunity so vast, plenty of room for all? Or are you incrementally more concerned? Or how should we think about it?

Micah Young executive
#25

I -- honestly, I think it's flattering. If you look at kind of -- we started -- in terms of Hospital Automation, we started that project 15 years ago. Joe has talked about when they started the Root and planning for Root, Patient SafetyNet, all those elements and UniView. That's been something that clinicians and care teams have been asking for, for years. And they've come to us because the solutions haven't been out there, the kind of the enterprise-wide or system-wide solutions. And I think what we have to offer is a few things. One, we can connect everything with Root, so we can connect everything to the hospital. There are some competitors in that space that compete head-to-head on connectivity, but that's just one element. But we bring together the connectivity aspect, the ability to take that data and flow it through our Iris Gateway server, and that basically -- we can distribute that data in real-time to any endpoint in the hospital. And that's where it's valuable. It doesn't go in the EMR, and it becomes episodic information that's delayed. We can actually make decisions off that data. We can support the decisions of clinicians. And I think that, that's a value that we bring is that real-time data flow. We can take it to a central nursing station where they can monitor all these patients. We can take it to a smartphone where we can escalate alarms and alerts to clinicians. We do have some competitors that are directly competing there in that space, but they all have elements. If you took -- if you tried to match what the offering we have the full suite, it would take multiple vendors to get there and take multiple servers and a lot of cost. And we can offer a very economical solution that can save hospitals' money, and it can improve workflows. And hopefully, as we continue to develop advanced decision support, we can help clinicians improve patient care in a big way.

Frederick Wise analyst
#26

No question about it. And just -- you've sort of touched on it, but you're -- if I remembering correctly, something like 85 OEM customers, any change in their behavior in general, Micah, in this environment? Are they holding back their horns in any kind of way more cautious because of uncertain capital or economy or COVID? Any change in behavior in that part of your business?

Micah Young executive
#27

I think there's some OEMs that may have gotten ahead of their skis a little bit in pockets. But again, as we look at next year, we kind of see a stable capital environment, and I think the stability is really, too, around pulse oximetry because this is needed in a time where you're battling a respiratory disease like COVID. And I also think that the monitoring equipment and the monitoring space in terms of capital is probably a lower expense item than if you think about imaging equipment and other things like that. Those -- that's kind of how we're viewing it right now. And we're working through our planning process for next year, and we'll find out a lot more by the time we come out with guidance on our fourth quarter call, but that's how we're looking at it, is pulse oximetry is going to be a priority. We expect it to be a priority as well as it's a lower cost item in that capital budget.

Frederick Wise analyst
#28

No. I think that makes a lot of sense. We're basically out of time. Micah, thank you, as always, for your -- for being here, for your generous commentary. We really appreciate it. And we'll call it there. Thanks, again.

Micah Young executive
#29

All right. Thank you, Rick. Stay safe and healthy. Take care.

Frederick Wise analyst
#30

Yes. You, too. Thanks.

Micah Young executive
#31

Bye.

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