Masimo Corporation (MASI) Earnings Call Transcript
May 15, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
All right. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the last -- almost last presentation of the day. We're glad to have Masimo Corporation. I'm Travis Steed, Bank of America research analyst. And we have Joe Kiani, Chief Executive Officer of Masimo; and Micah Young, Chief Financial Officer. So thanks for joining us today.
Thanks for having us.
Yes, of course. So you just reported Q1 a couple of weeks ago or last week and came in slightly ahead on revenue and margins. And just maybe kind of think about the trends in the quarter and how the core business kind of played out.
Yes, we're happy to see the business stabilize. And we went through this incredible period during COVID, where I think we grew 20% revenue. Our drivers went up from 240,000 to 480,000, and pulse oximetry became a household name. We introduced the COVID product that allowed people to send patients home and bring them when they need them. And just was a really exciting, terrifying period. And then afterwards, it was a little weird, right, because I think a lot of customers have hoarded products, and there was these gyrations in the market. We're feeling that we're finally in a steady-state situation. We started feeling that way Q3 last quarter -- last year, Q4 last year. And now Q1, as you noticed, not only we did really well from a great hard quarter to beat Q1 of 2023. We beat it in sensor revenue and volume. And the TIs were incredible. We did $100 million of TI. And remember, TI is true incremental. So it's the new contracts we gain with new hospitals minus anything we've lost. So when we say we did $100 million of TI, that means we're gaining market share probably 2 to 3x the normal rate. This is after a year where we did $400 million in TI where we normally did $150 million to $170 million in the past. So all in all, we feel really good about the business, and we feel like things are going to get better. The comparables are going to get a lot easier. And yes, we're looking forward to a strong 2024.
I think one area of focus has been kind of the weaker driver shipments. And my understanding, it's not really affecting the kind of the cadence of installation. So maybe kind of talk through that a little bit.
Yes. First of all, the drivers that we report are the OEM boards we ship and the monitors we ship. Obviously, the monitors we ship, we ship directly to hospitals. So those are going to soon consume sensors. The boards we ship, it's up to the OEMs when they ship it out to the customers. Some of our OEMs, you may have seen their report. They're public companies. They've had good quarters. So our softer driver quarter to them means they were hoarding some of our OEM boards, and they have been shipping them to our customers now. And from the report we're getting, as Micah had already told folks in the Q4 earnings call, Q1 was supposed to be the trough. It feels like it is at 50,000 drivers. We think Q2 will be 55,000, and Q3, Q4 will be back to the 60,000 level. But I think we began telling our stockholders the true incremental numbers because at the beginning, every driver was a new sensor driver. Now as we become the #1 market leader, not every driver is a brand-new sensor driver. Some of them are replacement. So we thought the TI, which is the growth, is the way for you to be able to know how we're doing in market share gains.
And when you think about utilization for drivers kind of back above pre-COVID levels at this point, what's driving that?
That's the good news. The fact that sensor utilization per driver is -- and the revenues are better than ever, it means 2 things. Not only the big bolus of drivers we shipped in 2020 didn't get all put in the closet. It looks like a lot of them are being used. But it also means hospital census is up, and they're utilizing our products, which we're very happy about.
Yes. I think one thing to add is back in 2019, we were about 1.8 million drivers. We're -- today, we're sitting at about 2.6 million. So we've seen about a 50% increase from where we were back in 2019, but our consumable revenue per driver is higher than it was in 2019. So we're still -- despite shipping 2x back in 2020, we shipped an extra 240,000. That's about 10% of our installed base today. And even those may be lower utilization, if they're going into general floor or other care areas, we're still seeing very good utilization overall in the installed base.
If you think about the drivers of the high single-digit growth, can you walk through the components of that a bit more? The high single-digit revenue growth.
Yes. So if you look at kind of how things are playing out right now, we've seen good growth even in a very tough comp for Q1. Our consumable revenues were up 2% in the first quarter against a very, very tough comp. Capital was down 21%. So if you kind of play out for the year, we're guiding 6% to 9%, but all that -- the growth is coming from consumables. So what we're seeing is if you go out and look at some of the things we put out in some of our recent earnings presentation, the consumables within each category, whether it's rainbow, it's capnography, SedLine, O3, all those consumables are driving good revenue growth that's above our long-term growth rate. So the trend is there. And all that's coming off the strong contracting. And keep in mind the contracts we do, customers typically don't sign up for 100% of volume. They sign up for minimum volumes. So we typically outperform on those contracts, and that's what we show as a minimum commitment. So as you start to see that 100 million that Joe referred to in Q1 and say that's -- let's just say simplify it and say it's 5 years on average of the contract life, that 20 million a year starts to layer in. So that's where we're seeing good strong growth coming off of winning new customers. We're also seeing our -- we're able to get into install equipment into customers where if you go back a year ago, it was difficult to get into the hospitals. Some were short nursing staff, and we were getting delayed with equipment going in from OEM partners, and we had our own challenges. So today, that's stabilized. We're getting in more. We're able to install and start driving the revenue growth.
Is this high single-digit growth algo kind of back on track for second half of this year and then into 2025?
Yes, yes, especially when you look at consumables. I mean over -- 80% to 85% of our business is consumables today, 15% is capital. So we're not a capital-intense company. We focus on the recurring revenue stream of consumables. We feel very good that we're on track to that high single digit, 8% to 10% type of growth for consumables. Capital is a little tricky just because of where the environment is. The patient monitoring was a key area of focus for capital budgets during COVID. A lot of hospitals were deferring the higher intensive capital, the larger capital items. And now they're probably refocusing of those budgets towards those as well. But we feel very good about where we're positioned with -- again, driver shipments is not the best indicator right now. Contracting is, and we believe the drivers are going to come back.
Yes. And if I could add, the Q2 projections we just gave when we announced our Q1 numbers, it's about a 20% increase to sensor revenue. So even if you look at the first half with 2%, we're going to be more than double-digit growth the first half of the year. So we feel like it's come back. When we first gave our projections for the year, we assume the low end was a 0% census increase. The high end was 1%. And it looks like Q1 was about 2% to 3% census increase. So that's really helping us meet and beat what we guided at the beginning of the year.
And how are you feeling about Q2 in that range? Second quarter.
Yes. Second quarter, we're thinking we're going to do like nearly 20% growth. And so we're -- and so far, it's tracking that way. And we have this tool sales summary. We get to look at the sales on an hourly basis. And the sensor volumes are finally coming in, in an orderly way, not lumpy like it was for a few quarters before.
Yes. I think Q2 implies somewhere between 16% to 20% growth on the range. So -- and then on the year-to-date, things kind of normalize out for the first half and then normal comps in the back half of the year.
Got it. And then on gross margin, kind of raised the gross margin guide 60 basis points in the kind of the core business. But what gave you the confidence kind of in the Q1 to raise the full year by that much?
Yes. We're seeing good traction on our transition in Malaysia. As you know, we've had a lot of headwinds over the years with inflationary costs with the workforce down in Mexico. The peso has been a headwind for us. But we've been watching Malaysia very closely over the past few years, and it's a much lower cost in terms of direct labor costs. It's probably close to 30% to 40% lower today. So we've been transitioning that. We've -- at the end of March, we were around 2/3 of the way there. So we're on track to actually have a full transition of sensors by the end of this year, so if not earlier. So we're on track. Originally, we thought that would take through middle of next year to get to that point. So that's tracking well, and we believe the labor cost is going to give us 60 basis points, and we will then focus on driving the efficiencies as we start to get more stable volumes going through that plant.
Especially with Malaysia, how much upside could there be kind of left in '24 on the margin side?
Yes. I mean we brought it up originally. I mean we're ahead of schedule, so we brought up 60 basis points. So we're getting the direct labor starting to come in, but it's going to get us in a good trajectory as we go into 2025. We're trying to get back on that path to get back up in the high 60s gross margin. Ultimately, we want to get up even higher than that. But we only need to get to 66% to be a 30% EBIT margin business. And that's another 350 basis points based on where we're guiding today. And 1/3 of that is going to probably come from those efficiencies we're seeing in Malaysia. And we've got a lot of other cost reduction initiatives that we have in place that we're putting in place today that's going to set us up for the rest of that path to 66%.
Yes, I want to get into the longer-term margin in a minute. But before we do, there's kind of a couple of items I'm going to check the list on kind of post Q1 that came up. I think first is the Rad-G recall. And I don't know if there's a way to kind of size that.
Yes. Let me -- I'll take that one. The Rad-G is a project that the Gates Foundation funded. It was meant to be a very low-cost pulse oximeter developed for mainly detecting pneumonia in children in developing countries. 5 million children were dying of pneumonia every year. And the Gates Foundation was trying to fix that. They narrowed down to 4, 5 pulse oximeters. They took them -- including us. They took it to those countries, 5 of them, tested on 5,000 children. And we had a 3% error rate. The next best product at 30%. So they came to us saying, we want you to develop this, we'll pay for it, but make it low, low cost. So to make it low, low cost, we took away some of the redundancies we normally put in our instruments. And secondly, we saw an opportunity where there's no pulse oximetry during surgery for 5 billion of our population. So we also made it a continuous mode, not just spot check. Some of the countries in Africa couldn't buy it unless we had FDA clearance. So we sought FDA clearance so they could buy it. Then some of our sales people noticed the product was the lowest-cost product. They began selling it. We got one notification that a child had died that had come from hospital as a newborn with terrible illness and a year later died. The parents, when they got to the child, they said the product was flashing, which is what it's supposed to do. Nothing to do with the recall reason, the best of our knowledge. Then the recall happened because to be RoHS compliant, you can't use LED anymore for soldering. But part of the process, the board has to be clean before you put the components on. The supplier that was shipping us those boards didn't do the right steps. So some of the boards came with that contaminant still on. What that did, it caused the pulse oximetries to turn on and off, on and off, just would not work. So the team met last August when they learned about it. They did an HHE. They decided to recall it. And then it was given to one of the individuals, a high-level individual, to do the recall. That individual, knowing the mass majority of these products are in Kenya and all kinds of places where it's hard for people to replace things, was working on a software solution to give to them and did not immediately do the recall, waiting for the software, knowing these products either work or they don't work. So it's not a risk to the patient. Bottom line, we learned about it on February 14 that the recall hadn't still happen. I said, do it right away. We did it that day. But the DOJ began investigating on why did we delay the recall, and they're right. We shouldn't have delayed the recall. And we have been very forthcoming. We're working with them. We apologized. Tell us what we need to do. But no patient was harmed because of this because the product just won't work from the beginning. And we need to -- we've improved our process that someone can't sit on the recall that long. But that's the whole thing. And we don't think it's going to be a problem. Very few units were ever sold in the U.S. So we think it's going to be okay. But we'll see. We'll see what DOJ wants to do. We're working with them.
So no real financial impact to talk about?
No. We took a recall reserve. So I think it was around $3 million in the quarter. Nonrecurring type of reserves. So that was already booked we took a more conservative view on that. So we think the financial impact has already been covered. We don't expect it to impact revenue or any financial results going forward.
Great. And then there was the accounting disclosure with Sound United. It seems like all the core numbers are still good. But I just wanted to touch on that real quick.
Yes. So we had -- after we completed the acquisition, we had a former employee from Sound United basically came to me and said, there's some complex accounting issues that were -- I'm trying to understand. I can't fully grasp what's going on. And I said, okay, we knew it was tied to intercompany transactions and foreign currency impacts. And it was complex. So I immediately had our team reach out. We started working with a big 4 firm, making sure that they reviewed the process because we had just done the acquisition. And we didn't see anything -- any issues at the time of the acquisition. But we want to make sure. So we had them look at it. Everything was fine. Fast forward to the end of the year -- and every quarter, I have my teams certify financials all the way up because we got a big organization. So I want to know are there issues, and they bubble them up. Well, it came back up again from the same employee. And around that time, we also found out that same employee had also filed or sued former employers before. So -- but we took it serious. I had our internal auditors, our external auditors, look at it. And everyone -- our team came to the conclusion, both internally and externally, that the financial statements were fine. Everything's properly stated. We're now that they went -- became a whistle blower with the SEC. And SEC came back and just has asked questions. And I spoke with them. And we're fully complying with the request. They have to go through their procedures on a whistleblower case. And I think we did everything in the right way, and I do not expect any restatement.
Yes. Micah got 2 separate audit firms to look at it before he booked whatever he was going to book. And they all agreed that it was fine, and it was her misunderstanding. So yes.
Great. And then there was a Board member that just resigned. And any color? I guess he has health issues or -- I don't know if there was any color on that.
Well, we've lost 2 really good Board members, Rolf and Adam, over the last 3 months. It's been really a lot of it because of the stress of the activist on the Board. Without getting into all the details, 2, 3 times, I tried to save Rolf from resigning. But finally, he did have a retinal detachment. And his doctor ordered him not to do anything for a month. So he just said, look, I can't do this anymore. And he resigned. It's a shame. A great guy and loss -- great loss. But we just got to manage through this period.
Perfect. Now maybe going back to more of the longer-term margins. And I know you provided the bridge to the 30% operating margins in your earnings deck recently. But maybe walk through some of the key cost initiatives to get to the 23% to 25% health care margins today to 30% over time.
Yes. And I'll try to stick to kind of the midpoint of that range, so I don't bounce numbers all over the place. Right now, we're trying to -- ultimately to get to 30%. We need to get to 66%, as I mentioned before, percent on the gross margins. That's 350 basis points of improvement. 1/3 of that should come from Malaysia. The other, call it, another 1/3 of that will come from just normal leveraging of our installed base as we continue to grow high single digits on the consumables side of the business. And then the final 1/3 of that is we focus on -- our engineers are focused on taking cost out of products each and every year. And we've got a good lineup of cost reduction initiatives that are well defined that should start to roll out and start to benefit us in next year and years to come. So we're trying to get there as fast as we can. We're not -- we haven't given up on 70%. It's just all the inflationary costs that have come in the past 4 or 5 years, and it's -- a lot of companies have faced those same type of cost. You got to find new ways to get there, right? And we're not giving up on that, but we have a very good pathway to 66%. And that gets us to 30%. The other piece is leveraging our R&D investment. As we continue to grow, we've got a lot of shots on goal to continue to deliver growth in those high single digits, low double-digit range. So we should be able to leverage R&D, we think, down to about 8% of revenue. Maybe even longer term, we can get down closer to 7%. And then the last one is SG&A. So selling expenses. We're continuing -- every year, we're leveraging more and more revenue per rep, and that's a key metric that we look at internally. And we've got a large sales force. We've made investments to get into new markets, and those new markets -- those are investments we've made in the past. So we believe we're in most of the markets we need to be in today. So now it's just a matter of continuing to leveraging that up. And we've done a great job over the past 4 or 5 years. The only challenges have been is we've had to make some investments in areas like the wearables, but we've kind of carved that out and showed what the new -- the RemainCo P&L looks like post the separation. The last piece is general and administrative costs. We've -- every year, each and every year with revenue growth, we leverage that, typically grown that about half of revenue growth or lower. So that's kind of to get there. R&D is going to give us 100 basis points at the midpoint. Another 150 comes from leverage of SG&A. And then once we get there, then we'll talk about the next milestone.
How do you think Masimo compares to some of the businesses like GE Healthcare and Siemens, where OpEx is kind of mid-20% of revenue?
I think over time, we can get there. Absolutely. It's all about continuing to scale the business. And some of those companies are much larger in terms of overall revenue, and it just -- it takes some time to scale it. But -- and each and every year, you have to overcome inflationary costs as well and the increases in your workforce in terms of compensation.
And how do you think about the opportunity to get to kind of 40%?
Yes. I really believe we can eventually get our margins up closer to 70%. But I think we can bring SG&A and R&D down to about 30% together. So I think we could get to 40%. That's been a model I've been working on, especially if we take the investments that we're making in the wearables and hearables and put it in a spin. We can still be a very innovative company at Masimo Healthcare. As you know, I don't think anyone has been a serial innovator as much as our company has since the beginning. I think we can keep that up, as Micah has said, to about 6%, 7% type of R&D expenditure.
There's been a lot of back and forth with Politan and some of the activists. I'm curious what your expectation is for kind of the annual general meeting and the shareholder vote.
Well, I think we expect that we'll win. The reason is that the calculus was different last time. I think ISS and others ask, well, what's the harm of adding 2 members or a minority out of 5 or 7? Now Politan is trying to get the control of the company. They have 9% of our shares, and they're trying to get 4 out of 5 Board members. So I don't think that's going to play well. And on top of it, they're trying to replace me. I've been Founder, CEO and driving the innovation of Masimo since the beginning. Any CEO, I think ISS has a high board to vote against, let alone, I think, my background. So I think we should get favorable reports from ISS, and then hopefully, our shareholders will back us because I don't think they want us to hand the keys over to an activist who's never run anything before.
You've expanded the Board to 7. You've announced intention to separate the consumer business, and you've also expanded margins this past quarter. What else do you think that Quentin is looking for?
I don't know. I really don't understand what's driving him because he's been on our Board since June last year, and he only made one suggestion the entire period, which is to take out the expenses for the Apple litigation out of the non-GAAP numbers. No other recommendations, no other suggestions. And yet we've heard that he thinks some shareholders or he wants us to spin the consumer health business. So now that we're doing it, that we've announced it and we have really great opportunities, either to do a straight spin or do a JV, you would think he'd be all forward. But from everything I'm seeing, he seems dead against it. So I don't know what he wants.
Any view on some of the candidates being proposed for the Board and kind of the value that they potentially bring to the Board?
Well, first of all, historically, the people that have been on our board have been either chairmen, CEOs, senators, very influential MDs. The candidates he usually brings are mid-level managers like Michelle. And this time, he's got the same. One of the candidates, it's a biology chemistry background, CTO. So nothing to do with what we're doing. The other one seemed reasonable. He was ex-CFO, and we need someone like that to chair our Audit Committee. And that's one reason we said we will accept him, but he rejected that. We're going to run, of course, not just me, but we think we have another candidate that's willing to take Rolf's place. And so we'll run another person that's going to be really -- I think a far better person to put on the Board. Much more strategic. And I hope our shareholders will agree with that and will vote for us to continue what we've been doing. We've done -- just so you know, the spin JV, I don't think it's the best thing for Masimo. I really believe we can build a really much more powerful company if it's all together. But I've listened to our shareholders. Our shareholders, the majority of them actually believe this should be together. But the majority owners of Masimo, they like to see it separated. So because we work for our shareholders, I agreed to do it. Now I agreed to do it in a way that the dream stays alive for the consumer health business to help change the way patients are treated. That's why Sound United with the wearables, with the hearables and a team that can help make it happen. But we're doing everything we can to make this a company that's run by the majority of the shares.
It sounds like the kind of the main reason you decided to do the separation is because it's kind of what you're hearing from shareholders. Any other reasons around that separation? And then which kind of leads me to think about -- are you kind of committed to doing that no matter what happens with the outcome of the vote?
Yes, 100% committed to doing it. We may have been able to even do a JV before the shareholder meeting because the JV wants to get it done by June 25. But right now, the activist is pushing back, threatening litigation. So I don't want to get into a lawsuit. I'd rather wait until after the proxy to do it. Hopefully, they won't go away. I always say the most important thing to any deal is momentum. And so I hate the fact we're going to lose momentum, and I hope they don't go away. But I thought the shareholders wanted that. And if they do, they should tell him to back off because he's threatening to sue us if we try to do the JV before the proxy, and I don't want to do it.
When are we going to hear more on the deal?
Well, assuming the JV doesn't go away because we aren't going to be able to probably do it before the shareholder meeting, our plan is hopefully second half of June to hold a meeting either in Boston or New York and explain at least the JV deal. Ideally also the entity that's doing it, but at least let you know the structure. I also hope to show you the new really cool product we've created, the next-generation Root that I think will be just phenomenal for patients and hospitals. So hopefully, that meeting will show you both.
All right. Any other topics you'd like to cover?
Well, thanks for having us.
All right. Great. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. Thank you so much for coming.
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