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PATRIZIA SE (PAT) Earnings Call Transcript

August 11, 2026

XTRA DE Real Estate Real Estate Management and Development earnings 38 min

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Operator operator
#1

Good day, and a warm welcome to today's earnings call of the PATRIZIA SE, following the publication of the H1 figures of 2026. [Operator Instructions] Having said this, I hand over to PATRIZIA's Director of Investor Relations, Janina Rochell.

Janina Rochell executive
#2

Thank you, Mara. Welcome, everyone, to our analyst and investor call for the first half of 2026. This is Janina speaking. I am pleased to have our CFO, Martin Praum, with us today. Martin will provide an update on current business developments. If you have any questions, the IR team is more than happy to assist. As usual, this call will be recorded and be made available on our website. We will also provide a call transcript for further reference. With that, I'd like to hand over to Martin. Martin, the floor is yours.

Martin Praum executive
#3

Thank you, Janina. A warm welcome also from my side, and thank you for joining us today. I'm happy to be hosting today's call and taking you through our performance in the first half of '26 and providing you with some background on the market environment and our outlook. Over the last few months, the Investor Relations team and management have thought about how to further optimize the format of our quarterly analysts and investor calls. But rather than walking you through the H1 financial results presentation slide by slide, today, I would like to focus on 10 key messages that, in my view, best capture our performance, the progress we've made and the key developments across our business. And directly after that, I will open the floor to your questions. So let me start with the first key message. In the first half of '26, our strategy further translated into results. Our EBITDA grew by 47% to EUR 43 million. Our EBITDA margin expanded by more than 10 percentage points to almost 32%. And net profit more than tripled to nearly EUR 15 million in a challenging but slowly improving market environment. With these financials locked in after the first half of the year, we are confirming our guidance ranges for the full year. As usual, we do not recommend simply extrapolating our first half results as certain performance fees booked in the first quarter and timing effects on the cost side supported EBITDA as in previous years. So before turning to our business performance in more detail, let me briefly touch on the market environment in which these results were delivered. So point #2, the market. You know that the Iran conflict temporarily weighed on inflation and interest rate expectations and briefly clouded the investment environment. But as tensions eased, sentiment recovered to pre-conflict levels by the end of the reporting period. So you could argue that market conditions have improved compared to the immediate aftermath of the conflict, but the investment environment remains selective and overall still challenging. Simply looking at the volatility of the 10-year bond yield as a risk-free rate, this has increased again by 30 bps after the end of the reporting period after dropping 30 bps before, showing the volatile market environment our clients and we are still faced with. Against that backdrop, it is encouraging to see that investor conviction in real assets remains strong in selected areas. So let's go to the next point. What do our clients think? Our latest investor survey shows that demand for real assets in certain areas is structural, not cyclical, while the overall appetite is still impacted by market sentiment, yield developments and geopolitical risks. Selectively, we nevertheless have reasons for confidence. Nearly half of the investors surveyed plan to increase their infrastructure allocations, up from around 1/3 a year ago. More than 3/4 intend to expand their living exposure over the next 5 years. And a striking 85% tell us that geopolitics is affecting their real estate and real asset portfolios, which is precisely why local European expertise and operational capability are becoming more valuable, not less. At the same time, investors remain highly selective in how and where they deploy capital. In that environment, the breadth of our product offering is an important differentiator, allowing us to address demand across multiple asset classes, strategies and investment themes. So this provides the backdrop to the business performance that we delivered in the first half. Let's come to point #4, our business volume. I mentioned the selective market environment, but we were able to deliver good fundraising momentum in the first half. Equity raised from clients climbed to EUR 0.8 billion from EUR 0.3 billion a year ago, with fundraising clearly accelerating in the second quarter with EUR 0.7 billion alone. The living sector was the main contributor, accounting for more than EUR 460 million of equity raised primarily through market-led initiatives. Our multi-manager platform, AIP, contributed more than EUR 300 million, while infrastructure added around EUR 60 million. So the direct and indirect infrastructure investments account for around 40% of equity raised. Transaction activity and investment activity also continued to recover with signed transactions rising by more than 15% to EUR 1.6 billion. Just as important, we entered the second half with EUR 1.5 billion of open equity commitments, which is up from EUR 0.9 billion a year ago. So this is capital that is ready to be deployed when the right opportunities arise and it is the foundation for future assets under management growth. With that, let's go to point #5, AUM. We ended the period at EUR 55.9 billion, virtually flat versus year-end, down only by around EUR 0.3 billion. Inflows and supportive currency effects largely offset disposals and net cash returns to clients, while valuation effects remained limited. The portfolio itself remains well diversified, more than EUR 45 billion in real estate and around EUR 10 billion in infrastructure spread across risk sectors, styles and geographies. During the period, the portfolio composition continued to evolve in line with our strategic focus areas. Living further strengthened its position as our largest exposure, while office decreased by 1 percentage point to 23%, driven by completed disposals across the U.K., Germany and the Benelux region. Retail also declined by 1 percentage point to 7%, reflecting completed asset sales in Germany, Spain and the Netherlands. This ongoing shift towards higher conviction sectors, combined with broad diversification across asset classes and geographies continues to support the resilience and the quality of our AUM base. Let's go to point 6, our P&L. Let's look at our own performance. The story this first half of the year, I think, is operating efficiency. Total service fee income was broadly stable at EUR 127 million with performance fees up almost 17%, partially offset lower recurring management fees. Yet, EBITDA grew by nearly half because our cost base is structurally lower. Operating expenses fell by 11% to EUR 100 million with staff costs and other operating expenses each down 13%. And these are not one-off savings. They result from platform optimization that is now embedded in the way we operate. While we expect expenses to trend higher in the second half, particularly in the fourth quarter due to normal seasonality and investments in strategic projects, we continue to expect operating expenses for the full year to be below the '25 levels. Let's have a look at the next point, the quality of our earnings. If there's one figure I would want to highlight, which I also did in the past, it is this. Our recurring management fees of EUR 110 million now more than cover our entire operating cost base with coverage of EUR 10 million against less than EUR 1 million a year ago. That means our core business generates a further improving operating profit even at subdued investment and transaction volumes in the market. The key driver behind this improvement has been the significant reduction in our cost base. Over the past 2 years, operating expenses have been reduced by EUR 34 million, materially widening the gap between recurring revenues and costs. As a result, the surplus generated by recurring management fees has increased significantly, fundamentally improving the resilience and the quality of our earnings profile. Let's go to the next point # 8, our balance sheet, liquidity and again, our earnings and value creation. We continue to use our balance sheet with discipline. In the first half of '26, we invested EUR 26 million in co-investments, which going forward will support our P&L with recurring participation and finance income. At the same time, we continue running a strong financial position with an equity ratio of 65%, a net equity ratio of 73% and available liquidity, which increased to EUR 122 million. The operating cash flow of EUR 17 million and the cash inflow from the partial realization of exit carry entitlements in the amount of EUR 49 million more than covered our dividend payments and the investments that we've done. And here is a super important point to make when discussing our financial results. Value creation goes beyond simply looking at the P&L. Some effects, for example, value changes of our co-investments and participations are directly shown in equity in the position other comprehensive income or OCI. Here, we saw a positive impact of slightly more than EUR 5 million in the first half of the year. At the same time, we crystallized value that we built over the last decade and that was so far only reflected in OCI and not in the P&L with the exit carry payments of EUR 49 million showing up in the investing cash flow. So together with our EBITDA of EUR 43 million and looking at our net income after minorities of over EUR 17 million in the first half, you can see the 3 dimensions of value impact from a shareholder perspective. Let's have a look at the outlook. We confirm our guidance for '26, which is assets under management between EUR 55 billion and EUR 60 billion, an EBITDA between EUR 60 million and EUR 75 million and an EBITDA margin between 22% and 26.5%. Within that, total service fee income is now expected to remain largely stable versus '25 with a stronger contribution from other income items and continued cost discipline expected. While we see some headwinds on AUM growth, but tailwinds for EBITDA and EBITDA margin based on the results that we've delivered in the first half, we recognize increased market opportunities in a selective way with client activity improving. Especially market-driven opportunities could impact the business activity in the second half and as usual, this depends on timing of signing and closing, which do impact AUM and P&L lines in our business. With that, let me close with the reason for some confidence that we have. In a half year that included a genuine geopolitical shock, our earnings grew, our margin expanded and our cost base came down further. That is a business model doing what it is designed to do. We, as management, will continue to focus on the things we can influence and with client demand that is structural, a recurring fee base that now covers our costs and the balance sheet that's built for flexibility, we think we are well positioned for the second half and beyond. With that, thank you so much, and I look forward to your questions.

Operator operator
#4

Thank you. we will now move on to our Q&A. [Operator Instructions] We have already received a risen hand by Mr. Neuhold.?Can you hear us, Mr. Neuhold?

Thomas Neuhold analyst
#5

I have 2 questions. Firstly, on the investment market environment and the survey you did, what do you think would be or could be key triggers that the intention of your clients to increase the exposure to infrastructure and property markets translate into real investments. And I was wondering if you have any idea which percentage of your clients still have some legacy issues to work off? And do you also see new clients who are interested in the infrastructure property markets who are talking to you for the first time? That's the first question.

Martin Praum executive
#6

Thomas, thank you for your questions. First of all, yes, we saw some existing clients, but also new clients doing business with us. So I can clearly answer that question with, yes, there are new clients that are interested in our products. Certainly, the -- I mean, given the breadth of our client base, there are here and there some clients that have some things to digest from the last cycle. But again, we have the power, we have the product and the breadth of product to attract new clients and new product and volumes on our platform. The investment market in general, I think I can reiterate a little bit what I said and also looking at the feedback we got from our investor survey. It is selective, but it is very much focused on good cash flow, good IRR investment themes in the -- especially in the region of living. This still includes residential, student housing. This includes health care. But also on the infrastructure side, we see structurally a higher demand because many of our clients are still underallocated in this asset class and are still exploring ways to benefit from the growth expected in infrastructure.

Thomas Neuhold analyst
#7

Okay, great. And my second question would be on operating leverage. Obviously, you have done a great job in reducing costs over the last 2 years. So I was wondering if AUM growth comes back by, let's say, by 10% or 20%, how much would your OpEx need to grow in order to capture the new business?

Martin Praum executive
#8

Sure. And Thomas, we didn't simply cut costs in this cycle, and that's why we always mentioned that we optimized the platform and the processes. We're also working a lot on introducing new technologies and certainly also AI solutions to make us even more efficient. So from here, if we look at the efficiency that we've built so far with an increased operating leverage, we definitely see that AUM growth and revenue growth would be higher going forward than cost growth because we simply became more efficient through the measures we've taken in the last few quarters.

Operator operator
#9

We have another risen hand by Mr. Philipp Kaiser. You may speak now.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#10

Can you hear me?

Operator operator
#11

Yes, perfectly.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#12

Congrats to the strong performance in the first half of the year. Just a couple of ones from my side, probably starting with the most obvious, you already touched it. And during your presentation, you had a strong first half with regards to the EBITDA development and kind of only confirming the guidance. Could you walk us through the guidance bridge for the second half of the year? What's your scenario also cost-wise?

Martin Praum executive
#13

Certainly. Philipp, thank you for your question. Just to reiterate for the benefit of all listeners, yes, in the second half, we are somewhat more cautious versus the first half. Simply, these are technical effects in the first quarter we usually book the performance fee driven by one of our major investments, which is unlikely to reoccur in the second half of the year. And also, we had some cost items timing-wise that will rather occur in the second half versus the first half. So this is why we currently expect that the EBITDA in the second half will be a little bit lower than in the first half. And I mentioned that also in my comments when I talked about the guidance, we left the guidance ranges as they are because there's still some uncertainties in the market. And although we have increased our basically operating income from recurring management fees still, some of our revenues do depend on market activity and also in the second half. And there's always a certain level of uncertainty when exactly we do signing and when exactly we do closing, which then impacts P&L or AUM. But taking your point, absolutely, I would agree. We started the year with a strong first half. And if I look at the guidance ranges we've given, obviously, on AUM, we still think we can achieve the midpoint. Currently, we are slightly below that. On EBITDA, I would say we are -- starting with the midpoint, we have good opportunities to be above that at the moment. And definitely for EBITDA margin, we are more in the upper range of the range than in the lower end of the range.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#14

So there's no real realistic scenario for the lower end of the EBITDA guidance in your view?

Martin Praum executive
#15

As I said, we feel comfortable now with the midpoint. Currently, I would be surprised if we really had to hit the lower end given if we look at what we achieved so far and how our pipeline looks like.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#16

My next one is on the total service fee income. You slightly kind of lowered the guidance. Is that management fee driven? Or what's the main driver behind this?

Martin Praum executive
#17

Absolutely. We basically now expect a little lower contribution from management fees for the full year. But on the other side, we have other contributing factors, for example, like participation income from investments that we did, which will offset that. So it's a smaller change in the mix of, call it, revenues or income items, but not a material change to what we expect.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#18

Perfect. And is the management fee income driven by a lower than previously assumed AUM growth in the first half or limited expectation on the development in the second half or closing maybe towards more the last quarter?

Martin Praum executive
#19

It's certainly, again, timing does play a role here. If you want to generate management fees and grow management fees, you need to have AUM on board. And if equity raising takes a little bit longer than expected, then also deploying that capital takes a little longer and then the positive effect on management fees also is delayed. And this is kind of the reasons for a change in view. Some things do take longer these days. We -- and as you've seen, you see equity rates going up. You see that our firepower is going up, but some of these things take a little longer than initially planned.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#20

Understood. Then speaking of management fee, as far as I remember correctly, last year was positively impacted by some development fees. Could you give us a kind of a like-for-like management fee growth rate, excluding those development fees?

Martin Praum executive
#21

The delta is only EUR 1 million roundabout from this effect delta compared to last year.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#22

Okay. Perfect. Then speaking of activity. So activity recovers also visible in your equity raise. I think the first inflection point since a couple of quarters. Signed transaction also rose by almost 16%, but it's heavily disposal led reversing last year's mix and should eventually weigh on your AUM and the management fee. And do you see any trend reversal towards more acquisition in the short term? What could be the trigger for that? And any major impact on AUM?. Sorry.

Martin Praum executive
#23

No, sure, Philipp. And I think this is a typical pattern you see. I think I mentioned it before in this part of the cycle where you see some portfolio rotation. And with the market now opening up and we have more transparency, more deals coming to the market, this also means that we advise some of our clients to do some portfolio rotation. As you've seen that we changed sectors as an active adviser. And this is why simply in the first half, you've seen more disposals than acquisitions, but also look at the equity raised and the open equity positions that we have, they will certainly translate into investments. They will be deployed, and that will then also have an impact in the future on the transaction volume in terms of acquisitions and subsequently upon closing also on stabilizing AUM and growing AUM. So we still believe and are confident that also in 2026, we'll see AUM, which are at a higher level than last year.

Philipp Kaiser analyst
#24

Perfect. And that brings me to my last one, fundraising. Any specific areas or countries, investor types returning to the table? Or is it just a general, yes, start of a recovery you see in the market?

Martin Praum executive
#25

Not a general comment I can make here, Philipp, because as I mentioned, it really depends on the investor. It's very selective. But we are in the very good position that we have more than -- way more than 500 institutional investors globally. And if you look at the fundraising that we've done, it was really well diversified, not only German investors, a lot of international investors different in terms of investment style, et cetera. So it's really broadly diversified. That's what I can say.

Operator operator
#26

We have another risen hand actually by someone who dialed by phone this time.

Kai Klose analyst
#27

I got 3 quick questions, if I may. The first one is in the income statement, the impairment for receivables and contract assets. If I see correctly increased quite strongly in the first half compared to last year. Could you elaborate a bit more what was the reason for that? Second question is on the salary expenses or salary costs or staff costs. And all items went down, except one item for share-based payment. Maybe elaborate a bit more if this was really only because of, let's say, share performance or other reasons.? And third question would be on the AUMs. Could you indicate if in the full year, the withdrawals -- sorry, the inflows could compensate for withdraws or [ payments ] to clients?

Martin Praum executive
#28

Thank you, Kai. Let me start with the first question. The impairment you've seen in the P&L, absolutely correct. This was a precautionary impairment that we did on fees that we generated. But in this specific case, for this specific mandate where we currently do not expect that we can actually harvest the fees over the year. So that's why, again, as a precautionary measure, we booked that impairment. We are still working on unlocking that problem so we can actually harvest these fees in the second half or shortly thereafter. Then on the last question, -- on the last question, it was, I think, on AUM and whether inflows should outweigh outflows. This is our assumption, yes, and this is the basis for AUM growth that we expect for the year. And then on the cost side, you mentioned the share-based payments. This is a reflection of, you could say, more granular planning and booking because based on the improved EBITDA margin and performance, we've also assumed a higher variable pay and share-based pay for certain programs that we have.

Kai Klose analyst
#29

May I can ask one last follow-up regarding the valuation of the assets you have on the balance sheet. Could you indicate how the values have changed or have gone down compared to December '25?

Martin Praum executive
#30

Absolutely. And thanks for the question, Kai. There are 2 elements you have to bear in mind here. One, you will see in the P&L that we had a smaller negative valuation effect on the consolidated assets that we hold of around EUR 4 million. At the same time, we had a positive effect in our equity in OCI of over EUR 5 million on participations that we hold. And I think this is also a good reflection of the market environment. There are some items where you see an upward valuation and some selected items also in our exposure where we have some remaining valuation to digest. But overall, I would say, stable development.

Kai Klose analyst
#31

And sorry, last one, when do you expect. . .

Martin Praum executive
#32

Sorry, Kai. One follow-up and also important, and this perhaps explains another question you might have, why do we have minorities or why is the net income after minorities higher than the net income. In some of these exposures, we are not the sole 100% investor and especially on the assets where we had a negative valuation in the first half, the EUR 4 million. This actually not only hits us with the full amount, but also part of this valuation impact goes to external investors, and that's why they are reflected in the minorities, and that's why the net income after minorities is actually higher than net income. So these valuations only hit us partially.

Kai Klose analyst
#33

Okay. And would you indicate how many and when of the assets you currently have on the balance sheet will be transferred into a third-party product or into a fund, if any?

Martin Praum executive
#34

That depends on the strategy. And we have a number of consolidated assets and co-investments. For some of them, we are currently looking at the market environment and whether it makes sense to sell them directly in the market. For others, we check whether there is a structure that might make it interesting for our fund investors. So these are ongoing strategic reviews we are, as management, doing at the time. So there are several exit options for these positions, which we are actively checking at the moment.

Operator operator
#35

We have one last risen hand by Mr. Vom-Cleff.

Lars Vom Cleff analyst
#36

Three questions from my side as well. I mean, Martin, we all know, one swallow doesn't make a summer. And I understood that you expect client activity to gain further momentum during the remainder of the year. But would you be able or at least willing to already provide some concrete figures for the transaction volume or equity raised that you are targeting for this year?

Martin Praum executive
#37

Lars, thank you for your question. I mean, first of all, yes, we saw a significant increase in equity raising momentum in the second quarter versus the first quarter. What gives us a certain confidence is the equity raising pipeline that we see and the equity raising discussions that we're having with clients and also looking at the July figures, I think we are on a good track for 2026 to deliver what we have planned, and that kind of confirms that we are on a good track to show growth in '26. That's what I can say to your question.

Lars Vom Cleff analyst
#38

Okay. And with activity gaining momentum, shall we then expect transaction and performance fees to also materially be up year-on-year? Or is that rather something that would react positively rather in 2027?

Martin Praum executive
#39

I would say, yes, that we would expect investment and transaction fees to be up versus '25. Also for performance fees, we do expect an uptick compared to the '25 numbers. So yes, we should see the impact from that also on the revenue side.

Lars Vom Cleff analyst
#40

Perfect. And then you already elaborated on your EBITDA guidance range and that you rather regard it as likely to end up in the upper half. I mean looking at your AUM guidance range and considering that the AUM have even declined so far year-to-date, how confident are you that you can reach the upper end of your guidance range, i.e., the EUR 60 billion?

Martin Praum executive
#41

I would say from where we stand today, and I think I made these comments before on the 3 KPIs that we guide the market on that -- on EBITDA and EBITDA margin, I think we are more optimistic than on AUM. And if we must reach AUM, the upper end of the guidance range, yes, for that, we would need to find some market-led opportunities, some larger portfolios in the market in the second half that would also close the deal before 31st of December. So we're looking at several investment opportunities. But again, as I said before, on our AUM guidance range, I'm a little bit more conservative versus profitability and efficiency.

Lars Vom Cleff analyst
#42

Okay. Understood. And then maybe lastly, thinking about your medium-term strategy, that implies a 16% AUM CAGR. Are you considering revisiting or updating this target at some point in the near future? Or will you continuously work with your EUR 100 billion AUM North Star for the time being?

Martin Praum executive
#43

Lars, you correctly mentioned that the EUR 100 billion that we mentioned before is a North Star and not one of our key financial KPIs that we guide on. And we certainly we want to grow also for the benefit of our clients and for the benefit of the platform. But certainly, management focus is more on bottom line profitability and delivering good growth and running a stable platform for our clients and all our stakeholders. So we will certainly, on a regular basis, revisit what the market environment is? What the targets are that we can achieve? But again, very important, the EUR 100 billion is a North Star. Whether at the end of the day, it's EUR 80 million, EUR 90 million or EUR 110 million is less important to me than having a solid profitability and a solid balance sheet and platform.

Operator operator
#44

In the meantime, we have not received any further questions. So everything seems to be answered by now. Should further questions arise later, please feel free to get in contact with Janina and her team at any time. Thank you very much. And I guess with this, I hand back to Martin for some final remarks, which concludes to our call for today.

Martin Praum executive
#45

Thank you so much, everyone, for listening in. Thank you for your very good questions. Thank you for looking and investing at and in PATRIZIA. If there are any follow-up questions, the IR team and I, we are very happy to answer them, and we very much look forward to meeting many of you in the next conferences in autumn of this year. Have a good rest of the summer. Stay healthy and talk to you soon. Bye-bye.

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