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Prescient Therapeutics Limited (PTX) Earnings Call Transcript

October 21, 2026

ASX AU Health Care Biotechnology special 52 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Patrick Nelson attendee
#1

Welcome to PTX's investor briefing, while everyone settles in, I'll go through the normal housekeeping. Any presentations that reach hosts are suitable for self-directed investors who have the experience and capabilities to make their own informed decisions. Any information contained in today's presentation is general in nature. It doesn't consider your personal circumstances, and you need to decide whether it's appropriate for you. We're giving you information for educational purposes and past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. My name is Patrick Nelson. I'm the MD at Reach. I'll be hosting the session today, but we're joined by James McDonnell, the CEO of Prescient Therapeutics trading under the code PTX on the Australian Stock Exchange. So today's session is off the back of the recent 4C which announced patient enrollments now up to 29 for the IIa trial, global clinical sites are expanding and referenced the Dose Committee -- Dose Optimization Committee review meeting in December. so I might ask James a couple of questions on that front. And then we'll go to Page 10. Now the deck is quite similar or is the same deck as the one that we have run recent sessions on. So just bear that in mind. We -- there are some new investors on the call today. So we'll run through the deck quickly, make sure everyone is on the same page, and then there will be further Q&A. If you've got a question, put it in the chat box at any point in time, and we expect the session to be -- we'll have a few questions now. James will go through the deck probably 15 to 20 minutes, and then we'll be back for Q&A at the end of that. Now -- just to get everyone on the same page, I'll do a short intro before I hand over to James. Prescient have developed a unique technology, which is a platform, and it can stop some cancers from reproducing. It does this by attacking the biochemical processes referred to as the RAS pathway that are behind 22% of all cancers. And whilst this technology is a platform that can potentially help sufferers of up to 22% of all cancers, the Prescient first chose to prove their technology on cutaneous T-cell lymphoma, which is CTCL. And it's a cancer which is considered by many clinicians to have no viable treatment, therefore, a death sentence. And in the Ib trials for CTCL, an astonishing 100% of patients cancer stopped growing or reduced. and 0 patients experience serious adverse events, which is particularly important as a lot of cures to cancers can be -- can have terrible side effects. So they chose to pursue CTCL in the first instance because it's an orphan disease, which has very limited treatment options. The FDA and other regulators are much more likely to support or fast track orphan diseases and support many other ways as well, which is important commercialization stages. And while this is referred to as a rare disease with limited treatment options, it still represents a $1.2 billion market in the U.S. alone. So the company -- the strategy behind going down this pathway has been very successful. The company has received fast track and orphan drug designation and IND designations from the FDA. The EMA also given them Fast Track designation, and they've moved a great pace. The CTCL is now one of the most advanced therapies on the ASX and moving into IIa, there is a potential for IIb to move with the fast track being fast track to be a registration study. And beyond the results for CTCL, there are now -- there are broader applications for this technology as well. So they're interesting spot. So James, thank you very much for joining us today. Before I hand over to go through the main body of the presentation, maybe just a couple of things are in the recent for, how are you today.

James McDonnell executive
#2

Yes. Good. Thanks, Patrick. Great to be here, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#3

Yes. So now I guess this dose optimization meeting in December is a major milestone for the company to get to the point where that meeting is being scheduled or you've got a time line to that meeting. What are the possible outcomes from the DOC meeting?

James McDonnell executive
#4

Yes. I mean it's very good that we now have the likely results in December from DOC. It's a significant inflection point. What the DOC is looking for, it's a dose optimization committee. They're looking for a dose effectively, but they'll also review efficacy and safety. They'll look at the efficacy in different arms and the safety across the whole study. What they're likely to say is, well, the goal is to choose a dose. We're halfway through the study. Could they choose a dose at Away, may or may not. They may choose to go further. But what we'll get is safety information. We'll get some efficacy information. And that's pretty important. We're halfway through the study. It's -- everyone is looking out for that information. So it's an exciting time.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#5

Yes. I mean getting some more results back, I mean, anything that looks like the Ia results, what would that mean?

James McDonnell executive
#6

Yes. I mean the Ib results were well within the range of what we're targeting under our benchmark sort of target product profile. So those are the results that we are after, and that would be a very good win. And so we're looking for those types of results. But this will be the first time we'll get a look at how the study is progressing. It's an interim measure. So yes, it's an exciting time, the first time we'll have looked at it and they give us an idea of where we're going. If we can define a dose that early, that means there's been some really good efficacy data in one particular arm, which helps us then go further in the process.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#7

Yes. And in terms of this -- what does this mean for the types of partners that you would be having discussions with? And who would those partners be?

James McDonnell executive
#8

Well, I mean, we have been talking to a number of partners. These are large, midsized and other companies that are parented by large generic companies in the U.S. as well. So there's quite a mix of them. There's also a European-based on. But they're all at the moment, all the discussions there, well, let's see what comes out of the interim readout, which is coming up. And so this is what's coming. So we will gear up to the next state of partnering discussions, and that's when it gets a little more serious and where we can start getting an idea of who and if you like.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#9

Yes. What -- like what are the types of partners that you -- I mean, I know you've been having some discussions. What types of groups you're talking to?

James McDonnell executive
#10

Yes. I mean these are companies that have got -- they're already commercializing products. The mid-tier pharmas are significantly large global companies. A global company is ideal for us. They certainly have presence in the U.S. and then Europe and other places in Japan. So we're looking at those probably mid-tier companies for an orphan disease, which has got orphan protection, there's a good commercial benefit there. And so that's who we're talking to. We -- once we get information, we're looking at partnering going forward for our registration approach and then future commercialization. Recent deals with Sobi and Innate Pharma demonstrate this real value in the CTCL space, and that's what these companies will be looking for.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#11

Yes. So I mean, the Sobi deal you just mentioned with Innate, what was that deal?

James McDonnell executive
#12

Yes. I mean it was -- Innate Pharma had a product called lacutamab. It's quite -- it's got very good results in Sezary syndrome, which is 5% of the CTCL patient population. They are moving towards their pivotal study program. They signed a deal with Sobi, which allows a USD 75 million upfront payment and then USD 505 million milestone payments along the way to registration and then double-digit royalties. And so that really validates the CTCL space. Now we have Fast Track designation in mycosis fungoes, which is 50% to 60% of the subtypes in CTCL. So you can see there's some quite -- there will be quite an interest in that space.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#13

Yes. And what -- you mentioned the 5% of the patient population, what -- PTX-100, what percentage of patient population are you?

James McDonnell executive
#14

Well, at the moment, with our Fast Track designation in mycosis fungoides, this is the largest patient population in CTCL. So up to 70% of patients have mycosis fungoides, whether it's moderate to or advanced. And so it's a dominant subtype to have response and really good responses there would be very helpful as we progress forward.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#15

So potentially 14x or circa that the size of the lacutamab.

James McDonnell executive
#16

Yes, I'm not sure the simple modification works, but it would be nice if it was 14x.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#17

I'm not extending that to the size of the deal. But just for context, right?

James McDonnell executive
#18

There's many more patients that are suitable for mycosis fungoides targeted therapy.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#19

Yes. And then sort of at what stage is it -- from where you are today, right, a dose and accelerated pathway to market is that's when those sorts of deals sort of start to occur. Is that correct?

James McDonnell executive
#20

Yes. I mean if you look at that deal as a clear example of what's happening today, that deal was signed as the Innate Pharma has finished their Phase II program and had worked with the FDA to get an accelerated program, and that's the pivotal accelerated process. They signed that deal, and that deal is funding that whole program. It's also set out what potential is in terms of registration and things like that. So we're in the Phase II program stage, and we results -- solid results in the Phase II program would lead us into nearing that phase.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#21

Yes. It's an exciting time. It's quite rare and unique that a company is at the point that P and bring new people looking at this, I would have a look at that. You can reflect on also the valuation and the potential upside of PRCI at the moment. But just moving on, 29 patients now enrolled in IIa. I mean, overall, how do you feel about where enrollments are at versus what your expectations would have been at the start of the IIa setting the IIa trial in motion?

James McDonnell executive
#22

Yes. Actually, we're doing quite well because we still haven't implemented the French site, and we're actually on target for where we thought we were with the French site. So we're happy with that. 29 patients enrolled. We've got 20 evaluable patients we have now set aside for the DOC patients in screening. I think it's progressing as such. The recent time -- the recent quarter was actually summertime in Europe and the U.S. That's typically a slower time for activity in clinical research. And so it's good to be through that phase and then getting back to normal. So yes, very happy with the progress.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#23

It slowed down a little bit last quarter. But do you feel like in December, when you -- by the time the DOC meets, is there -- I'm not looking for a forward-looking statement here, but like is there a world where we could be in that meeting with 40 enrolled patients?

James McDonnell executive
#24

I couldn't say. I mean we are progressing towards that. We are hoping that we can get those patients enrolled, whether there's 40 at that time, based on our current enrollment, it may not be possible. But I mean, at the moment, these -- the clinicians find patients, they come and they -- it's a little bit hard to predict sometimes. But we're happy with the progress. And the data at the DOC, we'll get some interesting outcomes.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#25

Yes. Now we had a question saying with the 20 patients now available in dose optimization committee meeting in December, can you clarify whether the shareholders will receive actual efficacy data, including objective response rates for each dose cohort or simply a committee's recommendation?

James McDonnell executive
#26

We'll receive a report from the DOC and the Board will review that report and then that information should be made available. I don't know what's going to be in it, but I do know that they'll be looking at efficacy in both arms. They'll be looking at safety and they'll also be looking at compartment. So this is a CTCL, it's cutaneous. So they'll be looking at the skin, they'll be looking at the blood, the nose and the viscera, those results as well. So there could be quite a lot of data. I think they're also going to have quality of life information there. And as you know, CTCL is quite challenging for patients. And so it will also be quite interesting to see the quality of life information.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#27

Yes. Okay. Good. The follow-on to that question was if the committee recommends recruiting additional patients before selecting dose, will management disclose whether that decision reflects insufficient efficacy, comparable efficacy between doses or simply the need for more statistical confidence?

James McDonnell executive
#28

mean we'll take the advice of the DOC and follow that. I mean it could be any of those options. So it is -- the DOC are the experts and we'll take their advice.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#29

Yes. Okay. The recent raise $6 million boost your funding. Can you talk us through some of the milestones that funding sees you through?

Unknown Executive executive
#30

Yes, absolutely. So I mean we -- as of the 1st of October, there's around $11.8 million. We're expecting[ 3.44 ] coming up in the from our R&D tax incentives. So there's about $15 million in the pie, and that will get us significantly well through the milestones in the Phase IIa program. And as we work through that and understanding what that looks like. So we're comfortable where we sit. And DOC in December is our biggest milestone. We'll look at other milestones as we get to the end of that. There could be a wage set could be. It all depends on what comes out of December, and that will help dictate what the new milestones are.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#31

Good. Dave has asked, do we know the date in December yet?

James McDonnell executive
#32

Not exactly. No. So the -- but it definitely will be because we have I know.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#33

I know you don't necessarily know the exact nature of this, but after that, how quickly will the market be informed of whatever is going to be released?

James McDonnell executive
#34

Well, my understanding is that, that would be a material finding. And so we are obligated to make that known to the market as soon as -- so as you have. Yes.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#35

Okay. Very good. All right. Let's pause there, and we'll be back for more questions. If anyone's got any questions, put them in as they occur, you will handle them all during the Q&A which should be in the next 15 to 20 minutes. Thanks. Back to you, James.

James McDonnell executive
#36

Thanks, Patrick. All right. Well, thanks for joining, everyone, and I'll take us through our deck today. So there's the disclaimer safe harbor for forward-looking statements. And the highlights. I mean, these are the 6 main highlights to take away today. We have PTX-100, which is a lead candidate from the Yale University, so very prestigious it's pioneering need a drug in an area of -- that hasn't been worked on before and has potential to address 1 of 5 cancers. So we disrupt the RAS pathway. It's the first GGTase inhibitor in the clinic. And so we're not competing with other GGTase inhibitors around. And in we're targeting a blood cancer, which ironically comes out of the skin. But from our Ib results that showed promising and it was very promising, and that's what has led us to this program. the near-term milestone, as we've just been discussing, is the Dose Optimization Committee review, which we -- the Phase I will take place, and we'll have that in December, which is a very important time for the study. And of course, our goal is to create value, value for patients, but also value for our shareholders and partners. As we progress and we've already found that with the recent deal that there's clear value in the space. So a quick background. This is from the cancer foundation, but you can see a normal sale growth in the normal sale growth. What I'm added here is where the RAS family play a role, and that's in that in that cell replication phase there, you can see and forward -- moving forward to other new tumors. and so here is our mechanism of action, if you like. If you have a RAS family protein, it uses GGTase to actually prenylate and that prenylation goes on to the downstream at rail Row and those sort of RAS proteins downstream, which create the tumor effects. If you use -- by adding PTX-100, it addresses the pocket of prenylation and prevent relation happening. And so therefore, the RAS value proteins are unable to prenylateand they can't change the cell member I mean create their next wave of activity. And so therefore, it disrupts that tumor activity. So an antitumor effect. So that's effectively and simply how it works. And we recently checked how it works by validating through a CSIRO program. And through AI and Piolin, we found out where it fits within the GGTase enzyme and it fits very nicely. The set sale, which is the middle graph there shows that if you move the graph to the right, it shows that it's really attaching a nicely in the good affinity to the actual place where we want it to be. And then the last graph there on the left is demonstrating that there's a reduction in the amount of prenylated RAP 1 proteins attached to the cell membrane. And these are in different cell lines. The first you sell lines, the solid tumor and the last 2 as levies. You can see that we understand what it does and we can see through this invite that it is actually doing that. So that's very helpful. So moving forward, we are first in class, and I mentioned before that we're not competing with other GGTase-1 inhibitors, which is really important. We're creating the space, and we're really getting the clinicians on board in terms of our GGTase-1 inhibitor and potentially extending that to other cancer types. So in CTCL, we ran our phase 1 program and then a Phase Ib program looking for an asset or an indication that had RAS involvement and has a clear unmet need and we could work with from a regulatory standpoint and there was value in it. We've settled on CTCL from the 1B results, is RAS, there's orphan disease. There appears to be very good results and the market size is significant from -- as we've just been -- shown from a third-party market research company. So all the right things are replacing. We also now have the FDA designations of Fast Track for mycoisfungoides as well as the Orphan Designations from U.S. and Europe. So we've set the platform, if you like, for CTCL. So CTCL In itself is actually not a very nice disease. It's the T cells of the white blood cells really attacking the skin and these T cells migrate and they really cause problems with the skin and then they start affecting the nodes, the viscera and the blood. So all pretty nasty stuff. There's significant quality of life issues with pruritus and itching and lack of sleep, and it's really quite disturbing, if you like. We know that there's 3,000 new patients per annum in the U.S. And there's 2 main forms of CTCL mycosis fungoides and Sezary syndrome. Now mycosis fungoides is the largest subtype, up to 70% of patients are classified as mycosis fungoides, typically, a lot more skin involved and then they start progressing through each of those nodes in blood. Then the Sezary syndrome, which is a more aggressive type of CTCL, it's about 5% of the patient population, much more skin bar, but also more blood involved and so a little more tricky to manage. So when we look at the overall survival of CTCL, this is the 5-year overall survival, you can see there's clear areas here, the early phase mycosis fungoides stage where they're really challenged by the quality of life and issues associated with that. And then as you get to more advanced stage Sezary Cidery syndrome, you're not only charged with the quality of life, you also challenge with the survival and it gets down to quite significant poor survival there of 18% 5-year overall survival. So not a great one. And you can see that current therapies are modest in their efficacy. There's a clear need for new therapies and then hence, the fact that PTX-100 has Fast Track designation for mycosis fungoides. So the right thing to choose. Now we have -- there are therapies in this space. But as I've mentioned before, they're modest in terms of their approach. On the left there, you can see sort of like antibodies carrying payloads. On the right, you can see different antibodies timing, different antigens on the cell wall down the bottom, you've got HDAC inhibitors, which are really playing with epigenetics. And right up the middle there, you can see how RAS proteins trigger they're downstream triggering. And then if you group them all up, you can see that there's clear there's clear groups there. And then PTX-100 really takes out that middle area there of the RAS protein. So it prevents a prenylation -- so therefore, the rest family protein is not able to get their general group attached and therefore, they can't attach and signal downstream. So that's clear. A good result there means that we've got a unique mode of action, which is not copied by others. And so it will be very good in terms of mono and also combination approaches. No, we moved into the Phase II program because of the Phase Ib sub-analysis. And you can see in the green on the right there, the response rates, objective response rate. And right down in the bottom, we see the attributed to PTX-100 zero. So it's getting responses without causing further issues to the patient. Now if we go right across to the left, we have benchmark and drug discovery, you can also call that the target product profile. So what we would expect and what we would be aiming for to progress the asset. You can see down the middle, 2 approved FDA-approved CTCL products ones Life, which is an antibody carrying a payload and the other is Poteligeo, which is an antibody targeting a particular antigen on the cell wall. You can see around the objective response rate benchmarks but quite poor on the approaches. So there's room for potential new lacutamab assets in the space. Now lacutamab is the product which we've been discussing in terms of that's recently done the deal. This is an antibody tiding a particular antigen on the cell wall. In terms of Sezary syndrome, you can see there that there's a very solid response rate of 42.9%. And then Phase II program, mycosis fungoides is quite modest. And so hence, they have now a pivotal program, which has accelerated surgery syndrome component and then convert component. Now this is the per program that they've recently signed their deal with Sobi, which allows for USD 75 million upfront and then $505 million ongoing milestones as the product gets to registration and then double-digit royalties. So that's a pretty nice deal, demonstrates its value in the space, and that validates our movement in CTCL. Now I mentioned a couple of times about the safety profile. And you can see the difference between these profiles. PTX-100 is in Phase II program. So still work still going through the programs, but these are the products you can see are quite -- have quite significant adverse events. And so very helpful. And this means that with a unique mode of action, moderate or favorable adverse event profile, it's really good for a combination and really not really challenging the patient for adverse events, but more providing a unique mode of action. So that's actually pretty favorable. So we've talked about a Phase II program, and we've talked about a Phase IIa. We're moving up to the dose optimization committee time. What does this mean? Well, we started the Phase II program. The Phase II program is Phase IIa, which is the dose optimization part where there's 40 valuable patients who -- patients who are refractory and relapsed to mycosis fungoides, the Sezary syndrome, they've received 2 prior lines of systemic therapy, at least some of them, I know -- I believe some of them have more. And we see that the randomized to 2 dosing arms. And so the dose utilization committee is there to define a dose based on these dose optimization arms in the study. After 10 evaluable patients in each arm, the Dose Optimization Committee can start looking, and this actually has occurred now and they -- once they get the GRS and all the things sorted out, the Dose Optimization Committee will meet in December and provide a report for us. determining the next steps in the study in terms of efficacy, safety and also quality of life. Interestingly, I know that clinicians are very interested in the MSA, which is the skin response which is what they typically use clinically. This is a cutaneous disease. And so -- they do want to see the results from the mSWAT outside of just all the GRS or the global response score. So there's going to be quite a lot of data to sift through, but there's a lot of interest in this. So where are we heading? So we're in this phase, you can see the ongoing component there in the phase IIa, which is what we're up to, aiming to find a dose for the future program currently expected to be a 2b and Phase III marketing authorization on the market. However, we do know that we have Fast Track designation and Orphan Designation. We have an ability to communicate with the because of that Fast Track designation. And so there's a potential clinical path which involves more of a pivotal program as the next step and moving to a marketing authorization on the market. Now this is -- this is similar to what lacutamab are now embarking on. And so you can see that the FDA are open to these types of arrangements. It will be based on the dose, the efficacy, patient population and maybe the design of that pivotal program. So there's a bit to discuss, but there is potential there. Now as Patrick said, the market is significant in the U.S. alone, $1.2 billionas we've gained from third-party research, and there's 3,000 new patients per annum, and that's increasing in the U.S. So definitely a good addressable market and typically, we would go first. And when we're looking at that market, and we can see that mogamulizumab entered that market in late 2018. You can see here from 2020, 2025, that their market share grew, it actually grew the whole market. And so that tells me that when there's a clear unmet need, you've got a unique mode of action, clinicians are going to use your product that's approved in CTCL. Now the use of mogamulizumab is actually used in early phase and advanced phase which has surprised me when I looked at the data, it means that clinicians are really struggling not only in the advanced stage of CTCL. They're also struggling in the early phase. So patients, even with the quality of life issues are having problems and refractory and relapse to other therapies. And so is there a clear need for new therapies. So our strategy is pretty clear. We're CTCL centric at the moment. We need to demonstrate the efficacy and safety move through the program to a registrational approach and partnering approach for commercial benefits. And then we're also looking at other indications because inhibiting the RAS family pathway disrupts potential other tumor types, and we know that RAS in the bottom 22% of all cancers. And so we'll look at that in terms of perhaps an another orphan disease first and then something a bit broader as we strengthen our IP and looking at other commercial approaches and reviewing complementary assets as we move forward with gaps in our pipeline. So there's keen milestones here. I mean the clear one is the dose optimization committee in December. This will be a key driver to -- for us as we move forward. And then as we progressed through that study, we will be an FDA Type B meeting to determine the next steps in terms of pivotal programs or Phase IIa -- IIbs and things like that. So lots to be done, but the clear inflection point will be December. So we've had a strong management team here and a very supportive Board as we progress and they continue to support us and that will be part of receiving the package from the DOC in December. So we have a great value proposition in terms of PTX-100, it's first-in-class, its potential to address a large number of cancers. We're seeing good results. We've got FDA support from the designations in terms of Fast Track designation in mycosis fungoides as well as Orphan Designations. And developing this data will also provide really solid partnering discussions as we progress. So with that, I'll thank you and hand back to Patrick and take further questions.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#37

Thank you, James. I will just mention that in -- if you're in Melbourne, there is a PTX investor group that are meeting tonight. And if you would like to get the details of that, James will be there. And I think there's a couple of directors or people coming from the Prescient team. and there is a group of investors who have been involved in Prescient or invested in Prescient for some time. And that meeting is in Hyatt, which is out to Sandringham, Brighton Way, but if it is something you'd like the details of just type yes, maybe in the chat box or the question box, and we'll get somebody to e-mail you the details and or share the details with you. All right. So I had a question from James regarding the big pharma, and I think you mentioned before, big pharma, mid-pharma and generics as the groups. Would you be expecting if a deal was -- if you were to be approached on a deal? Would it be a takeout at this point? Or would it be an investment? What sort of structure, I guess, is what James is trying to work out there.

James McDonnell executive
#38

It's a good question. I mean -- so for instance, when we look at the recent deal from [indiscernible]. I mean, in farmer had a number of assets and so they sold their assets. So each deal is dependent on what you're bringing to the negotiation table. And so it's possible that our asset portfolio that it could happen. It is -- we see what's available. But it's big pharma have big checks and things like that. And so yes, we'll see what happens. But the Board will evaluate all options and for shareholder value and appropriateness.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#39

So this being -- I mean if the stage you're at and the stage you're moving into, it seems to be a lot of M&A activity out there at the moment. And that is a very good reference point. But what's driving this?

James McDonnell executive
#40

There's -- pharma need to keep their pipelines going and they have typically shied away from the really, really, really early research. They want slightly more derisked assets at the moment that they can plug in a bit later in their pipeline. You'll find that there's been some values around the place or there's a gap in the pipeline? Or you've got a whole commercial team set up for Orphan Drug and that portfolio may be coming to a patent issue. And so they want to keep supplementing it. All sorts of different reasons. But companies in the space commercially making revenue have ability to make deals. And so I mean, you mentioned generics, it's not actually the generic companies that we're speaking to. We're talking to the branded companies that are owned by those generic companies. Now these are well-funded commercial operations that are looking in the branded space because generics are no longer profitable from a generic standpoint, so they need these branded products. So we're talking to clear companies that in the in this branded space that are working hard, they just happen to be owned by a generic company.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#41

I mean just to break it down for us. So what does the CTCL -- PTX-100, CTCL, if it's at the point where there's a dose maybe accelerated pathway, what does that mean for a generic or a mid-tier pharm or whatever it might be, what do they get out of the -- what are they hoping to achieve is opening up a new market for them maybe through what about PTX-100 do you think would be enticing?

James McDonnell executive
#42

Well, PTX-100 is. So there's clear protection at commercialization. You've got an orphan disease, so you know where the patients are, if you like, you don't need the massive field force and often these companies have these specialized field teams that need to be fed these types of assets. And you've got companies that are in the space already, and they just want to complement what they already have. As we've said in our presentations, the current therapies are modest. And a number of patients are failing those therapies. And so having another one would be very helpful for that. the award just, if you like. And so that's what it's all about. And we've seen from the Sobi deal that they're willing to pay for that advanced program and then pay milestones, which are significant at the point again. -- and so double-digit royalties. It just it is...

Patrick Nelson attendee
#43

Sorry to interrupt. Sorry, the Sobi type deal provides the funding. So nondilutionary funding that can come in and take the program forward. And then on the success of that, then much larger money flows through, I think the total quantum is USD 580 million with a double-digit royalty. So it's a deal like that, which would be put PTX in a situation where it didn't need access anymore money from the market, it could sort of self-fund itself from that point forward. Those sorts of deals are the deals that are getting done at this point in time. And the groups like a mid-tier pharma or they're looking for these because of that other drug designation that gives them a period of time where they've got free run with higher margins, is that roughly it?

James McDonnell executive
#44

Absolutely. I mean it's nondilutive sort of funding. It's all about execution, which is what we're about. And so it really just lays the foundation for good things.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#45

Okay. Now Evan had asked a question about Mirati, which was something we referenced on a previous webcast now, I think I might have brought that up and -- so look, that was 1 that our analysts picked up on because they sold a RAS inhibitor, which was focused on a different cancer, but otherwise, quite similar, albeit it was a slightly bigger market. So they went through a similar process to Prescient. You can look that up in your own time, but they are also targeting -- they receive drug designation in 2021 and then got an accelerated approval in '22. They then took that drug to market in '23, and it was bought out by Bristol-Myers Group in October that year. So the 10 months after that accelerated approval for even Bill. Now we're not saying that is what will happen with present. I mean, but these are the types of deals that get done. And it is very rare. The point here is that it is very rare for -- to be at the point where you're at -- the Prescient are at. And results like the results they had in IB would be an outstanding result. And I just think it's a very exciting time. But look, I guess the -- in terms of, I guess, the important things for you right now at Prescient. leading the company. I know you bought some changes and some efficiency and reduce some of the costs. What's your focus right at this moment in time?

James McDonnell executive
#46

Implementation of the study. Our key driver is really driving this Phase IIa program because that's where we're going to see the most bang for buck, if you like. And December is not far away. And that's when we get the first look at this -- the data coming from Phase IIa and as you mentioned, if it's looking like Phase Ib, yes, that will be busy.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#47

Yes. Yes. Very good. Look, you -- we previously on -- I think the last session, we'd asked you around how many kind of meetings you'd had with the potential partners. So I might ask that again. So up to now or in the recent times, what's engagement been like? What's the quantum of meetings that you've had?

James McDonnell executive
#48

Yes. No, we -- I mean, there's another BioEurope meeting coming out, which Rebecca Tunstall is going to and another couple of weeks again, engaging on these companies. It's really about continuing the engagement. This is hiatus where we're waiting on the Phase IIa dose optimization committee. So it's just a matter of keeping things going. The Sobi deal is helpful credit news. It allowed us to reengage saying, well, he's potential and those sorts of things. But at this stage, the biggest time will be in December when we have information to really share. And that's where that will start really seeing how things go and looking at the type of engagements and how committed we're getting these programs and companies are looking for these assets. There's so many around.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#49

[indiscernible] is coming out of India, North America, Europe. Where do you think the interest of the main interest comes from?

James McDonnell executive
#50

Well, I mean, U.S. is a big market and all the companies we talk to have presence in the U.S. And so -- and that's exactly what we need. I mean our first market is the U.S., we need really an established presence in that space and all companies we talk to have there. And then we look at their affinity to the space, and we know that this company in Japan that is very -- has a global presence in this area as well. There's -- as you say, there's it's a global picture. We have spoken to some European countries that just cover companies that cover just Europe, but they are kind of our second-tier options. We're looking to make sure that we have the U.S. and associated jurisdictions covered as that first step.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#51

Yes. Ashley has asked, is there any more seasonal effects that drive recruitment Ashley said that was...

James McDonnell executive
#52

Yes, I think -- I don't know whether you've been to Europe in summer, but it's a bit chaotic. And that typically does affect recruitment. It did affect initially a little afffect in the U.S. as well, although...

Patrick Nelson attendee
#53

Are you surprised by that?

James McDonnell executive
#54

No, we kind of had projected that that's what would happen. And now we have the expectation, and I think we're seeing it is that the clinicians are starting to screen more.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#55

Yes. Yes, good. All right. So you did -- I remember you mentioning it, maybe I don't know if it was on 1 of these calls or maybe it was just to me, but it was referenced previously that summer was expected things to slowdown. Evan has asked, you purchased the drug from Yale, if you sell the drug, Yale will get?

James McDonnell executive
#56

Well, that's commercial or confidence. But I mean, it's something we will -- it's not a significant impact on any deal that we would make put it that way.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#57

Yes. John has asked you your point of banker or broker if you get very positive results from the DOC.

James McDonnell executive
#58

I'm not sure what's driving that question. I mean we would...

Patrick Nelson attendee
#59

Coming from an approach to a deal getting done, who manages that. Is that done internally? Will you appoint someone to advise on.

James McDonnell executive
#60

We have managed internally. We also have consultants that help us through the negotiation phase, the due diligence phase, I mean, there's a number of phases that need to happen. We're preparing our due diligence files and continue you need to update those because any partner will be coming in and doing that. And so behind the scenes, there's a lot of work that goes into all the preclinical data has to be there and talk and all that sort of stuff. So the due diligence files are critical and we know that we'll grant respective partners the ability to go into that due diligence depending on their level of interest. And we sort of have a couple of levels there.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#61

Yes. Very good. Joseph has asked, how excited are you, James, 1 to 10.

James McDonnell executive
#62

I'm pretty excited at this time because I know in December that we're getting data. And when you're running a clinical trial, data is king. And so I'm excited. So yes, that's what it's.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#63

All right. I mean, just to that point, I mean you've now -- how long have you been here? And 18 months getting close to 2 years.

James McDonnell executive
#64

Yes, I've been over 18 months creeping. Yes.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#65

Yes. I mean, from when you started to where you are now, how do you feel about the journey? Is this what you were expecting?

James McDonnell executive
#66

Yes. I mean I'm actually very proud of the team and what we've achieved and as we've progressed and the fact that we are nearing an inflection point for a major Phase IIa program is really important, and the execution to get to that point has been -- I've been very pleased with the team and happy to the CEO. It's been a real learning experience for me in terms of engagement and putting my base in front of the camera, but it's been fun and I've ended. And now we're at this pretty significant point coming up in December.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#67

Yes. Paul's made a statement, which is, hi James, you, clearly, a good operator for the sake of my sanity, please bring this PTX baby home. There's been some amazing shareholders that have been on the journey and have been incredibly supportive. And I think PTX is an example of a shareholding group that have supported and funded a company through to a point. And that's what has got the company. This very exciting point that it's at. And I'm with you on this in the same position as you are, Paul, are wanting to see this come -- go to the next stages, and the DOC is an incredibly exciting time, anyone that's been involved for me, the Prescient team it would be near in close to 5 years. So I couldn't be happier with how things have developed over the last couple of years. So I concur there with Paul's comment. Look, the 1 last question and then I think -- which was -- someone has latched on to my 14x comment earlier, Rich, please, but the target market for lacutamab is 12 to 14x larger or your target market is larger. How relevant is this type of size for the type of deal that you're looking to?

James McDonnell executive
#68

Yes. I mean there's different components to every deal. But yes, the fact that we have Fast Track in that space more patients or recruitment, you're likely to get a better pivotal program out of it. It's actually important and therefore, you're also appealing to a larger patient pool in that accelerated approach. So it will certainly be 1 of the cards we'll be playing in the negotiation table.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#69

So very good. All right. Look, I think that's all questions. If I've missed anything, please quickly type it in now or recut and paste it back in. I think I got through everything. Look, to that end, I think we will call the session to a halt. If you want any more information or you got any follow-up questions, you're going to give James any feedback, please drop some feedback in the chat or question box or in the survey on the way out. Thank you for everyone taking the time for jumping on the call today. And James, thank you for your time. I'll leave the last word with you.

James McDonnell executive
#70

Thanks, Patrick, and thanks, everyone, for joining, and thank you to the shareholders for the ongoing support and the support in our recent raise. It's -- we're on a journey, and there's an accretion point, not far away. So be with us, and I'll see you soon.

Patrick Nelson attendee
#71

Beautiful. Good day, everyone. Cheers.

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