Repay Holdings Corporation (RPAY) Earnings Call Transcript
June 16, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Hello, welcome to everybody joining us for this session of the Morgan Stanley Global Financials and Payments Conference. Really excited to have all of you joining us to chat with Repay. Before we get over to chatting with Tim and Jake from Repay, I do have an important disclosure to read. For any important disclosures, please see morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. So with that, I'll introduce here Repay's CFO, Tim Murphy; as well as Jake Moore, the EVP of Corporate Development and Strategy and as well the winner of today's background competition. Congratulations, Jake. Hope, we will send a trophy out soon, but nice work.
So maybe just to kick off, and I should say before we get started, for those of you that are joining on the webcast, if you'd like to pose a question, you can do so via the portal. I'll be monitoring those as we go through the next 30 minutes or so. But maybe I'll start with kind of my line of questioning. And for those that maybe aren't completely familiar with Repay, what are the markets and customers you serve? And how do you think about the business' growth drivers?
Yes. Thank you, James. It's great to be here with everyone today. So we're a payment processing, payment technology company. We serve 3 large buckets of customers. Loan repayments is the first bucket. So we're processing payments for auto lenders, personal lenders, mortgage servicers, credit unions, and we're doing something similar in Canada. The next bucket, which is probably the largest is business-to-business payments, where we're doing both B2B merchant acquiring, where we're facilitating acceptance of cards in a business-to-business transaction. We're also allowing our customers to pay their vendors and their suppliers electronically with virtual cards. So we're on both the AR side of the business, which is merchant acquiring, and the AP side of the business, which is electronic payables. And now with our BillingTree acquisition, we're much larger in health care as well. And so we have a presence in the consumer payments driven part of health care with BillingTree. And then we own our own back end, which is called TriSource. We do a back-end clearing and settlement. And then we have some kind of smaller sub-verticals, for example, accounts receivable management. And then with BillingTree, we also picked up energy. And so these are really large attractive markets that represent about over $5.3 trillion market opportunity. We think they're underserved from a payment perspective. And what I mean by that is that the penetration rates of electronic payments and particularly card payments are relatively low given the size of the markets. And so to your question about future growth, we think that sets us up really nicely for a strong organic growth going forward. We think our organic growth can be in the high teens 20% for a sustained period, just given the size of these end markets. And then that growth was driven both by existing customer, new customers. The existing customer growth is probably the majority of organic growth, and that's supported by additional penetration of card payments and then new customer acquisition comes through our direct sales force. And we now have over 175 ISV relationships that provide distribution and an opportunity for new customer wins as well. So a majority of our organic growth is coming from existing, which we really like.
So Tim, I think that's a great overview. Can you help us deconstruct a little bit the different segments, like what portion of their revenues, at least the major ones represent including recent acquisition? And how you think about -- if you're able to deconstruct it this way, what the growth rates are for each of those segments, just how that algorithm kind of builds up to that mid to high teens revenue growth rate you're targeting?
Yes. So right now, post-BillingTree, about 50% of the business is loan repayments, 20% is B2B, 10% health care, 10% account receivable management and 10% is that other bucket I mentioned with TriSource and energy really being part of that. So that's how the business looks today post-BillingTree. And I'd say within loan repayments, probably the fastest-growing vertical is auto. Auto continues to be probably one of our fastest-growing businesses, probably 20% to 25% grower. It just got great macro drivers, and it's a very large market with a nice penetration story, and we have a lot of software integrations. And then probably the fastest-growing part of our business is B2B, particularly on the payable side. There are some of our businesses that are growing well north of 30%. I'd say, combined, that business is growing 25% to 30%. And then you've got the health care business, which is basically the BillingTree acquisition is kind of mid to high teens. Then you've got some other parts of our business that are growing kind of mid-teens like, for example, TriSource. So all of that is what builds up to that kind of high teens to 20% organic growth. And again, we like the fact that we now have a lot more scale in our business post-BillingTree, and a lot more diverse verticals would provide the runway and the opportunity for sustained kind of growth.
So talk us through, you're addressing a lot of different markets, Tim, and maybe you can take us through the sales process. Like how does Repay win customers and merchants? Who are they typically already working with? Is it another payment partner or somebody else? And how do you convince them to come over to Repay? I guess, I'm really trying to get into what are the key points of differentiation and improvement for your merchant partners that they realize when they move over to Repay?
Yes, it's a good question. I mean, so we're going to market in a very integrated way. And so we -- one of the reasons we like BillingTree was because it also is very integrated. And so with access to over 175 software partners where when we win business, a lot of times it's because we're already integrated with the merchant, and that's important to them. And we're oftentimes not displacing a competitor, we're displacing a different payment type. So we're displacing cash, check or ACH, moving to card, and that's a big driver of our organic growth. And because these verticals are so large and there's tailwinds away from paper to electronic and particularly card, we think that's sustainable. And when we are winning, we're winning against a competitor. We're winning on technology. We're winning on the integration. We're winning on the omnichannel approach where we can offer the ability to accept payments not only over the phone and the web but also IVR, mobile and text. And we're winning with the fact that our integrations are very efficient and seamless and provide a much better experience for the customer when that integrated transaction happens. And that's how we go to market and that's how we win business. But again, I'd like to reiterate that oftentimes, we're competing against other payment forms, which, again, is why we've chosen these end markets.
So you mentioned loan repayment and within loan repayment, auto being kind of the fastest growth segment. What portion of that loaned bucket is auto today?
It's the majority of it. So I'd say, it's about -- of the 50%, about 30% is auto and growing. And so -- go ahead.
Yes, yes. No, I don't want to cut you off there. Go ahead, Tim.
Yes. So it's the biggest part of it, and it's growing because we're adding sales resources there and because we're winning your software relationships. And it's just a very large market, so that's why we're really focused on it.
So in the current environment, like just trying to get a handle and this is a common question for anybody with exposure to auto, whether you're a component supplier or you're providing part of the financing or even in your case, part of the payment -- repayment of auto loans. How is the current environment of high used car prices, low new car inventory, relatively high cash availability from stimulus impacting your business? And I guess, maybe more importantly, how are you thinking about those elements if and when they [ may return? ]
Yes. So we focus probably more on used car sales. And so the fact that used car sales are stronger is good for us. And as long as the higher prices don't result in fewer sales, higher price results in a larger loan amount, a larger loan amount results in more repayment volume for us. So the current kind of macro setup, I think, has been very strong and continues to be. But even if those prices were to come down a bit, as long as sales remain strong and more leaning towards used cars, I think that's a fine setup for us going forward. Even pre-COVID, our auto business was growing very nicely. I think there's been a bit of a tailwind and a push forward as a result of COVID and some of the macro factors you just mentioned, but I think even if that reverts back, it still reverts back to a very nice place.
Yes. No, that makes sense. And I guess, more generally, and once again, this is something we ask of all the payment companies that we cover. But -- within your business, what have you perceived to be the ebb and flow of impact from stimulus disbursements, et cetera, if any?
Yes. I mean when stimulus disbursements go out, we experienced an increase in payment volume almost immediately. And that's actually a good thing because it shows that consumers place a really high priority on paying back their loans, auto loans, personal loans, mortgages. And so we think that's really good that we've proven that, that priority does, in fact, exist. But then it may result in slightly reduced originations for a period of time as consumers have paid off those loans and have cash. It may cause originations to decline for a brief period. But then we see those come back. And as originations come back, that leads to more repayment volume for us. So there certainly has been an ebb and flow related to loan repayments, particularly personal loan repayments, but we're starting to see originations pick up in Q2 as economic activity picks up and consumer demand happens and travel happens back to school in the fall. All of those are drivers of personal loan demand. So we feel good about that. And then, in health care, in a health care part of the business, elective procedures were certainly down during COVID. That's not related to stimulus, just COVID in general. And we think there's a recovery play for us in health care coming out of this, which sets us up really well going into next year.
So back on the auto segment, and then we can touch on health care and some of the other strategic areas. But one of the things that was an interesting phenomenon that you highlighted back in the early days of COVID when things were really locked down, you had merchants that -- or auto dealers that were removing the ability to pay in cash because they didn't want to see people face-to-face and they also didn't want to be handling the cash for fear of what that could mean. You saw a lot of people shift to paying with their debit cards or some sort of other account, et cetera. As the world starts to normalize, are you seeing that behavior stick? Or is there some reversion back to using cash? And what does that look like? And is that presenting any type of headwind at all?
No. In fact, we think the digital engagement is continuing. Auto dealers, in general, are looking for ways to engage more digitally with their consumer. I think that just was pushed forward and pulled forward significantly by COVID, but that's something that we're really trying to figure out prior to COVID. And I think they've now really placed more of a focus on that, and they realized that payments is a big part of that. One of the ways they engage with their consumer frequently and regularly is through the payment experience. So I think they recognize they need better payment technology to further enhance that digital engagement. So we don't see that going backward, we see that moving forward. And we will have that conversation with a lot of different auto customers.
So I want to talk about strategic initiatives and bring Jake into the conversation. Acquisitions seem to be a key part of value creation for Repay. And let's start first with maybe the BillingTree acquisition. What's attractive about that from a strategic standpoint? You already mentioned what it does from a business composition of Repay, but top line at least, but what about other aspects of profitability? Where do you see potential synergies, et cetera? Just kind of break down that acquisition, how it was evaluated and came to be.
Sure. Absolutely. Well, it's very, very rare that we find an acquisition that checks all of our boxes or at least the vast, vast majority. BillingTree was that opportunity. And one of the biggest reasons is scale, which is something that we've talked about early on. It opened up some new markets for us. But specifically, it allowed us to go much, much deeper into health care, which is an area that we've spent a lot of time on. We've invested in it from an inorganic perspective over the last 12 to 18 months, and we're going to continue to do the same. But this allowed us that opportunity to kind of make a very big step function move into the space. And similarly, Credit Union, which is an area that we've been serving for quite some time. They also have quite a bit of exposure within Credit Union. So the strategic overlap there made a ton of sense. In terms of the growth profile, their business grows kind of in the mid to high teens rate across most metrics just as kind of our existing Repay business prior to BillingTree does. So to be able to acquire an asset of that size and have similar growth dynamics, we thought was an extremely attractive almost no-brain decision or no-brainer decision. But -- and then from a margin profile standpoint, they actually have higher margins than we do slightly even before synergy realization. So once we layer that on, we think we can kind of really add some value in that really across gross and EBITDA margins. And we've talked about synergies publicly and hitting a $5 million annualized target. And we think about 30% of those are going to come from processing cost improvements, just from taking BillingTree's volume and moving it over to our platform. And then the balance is personnel rationalization.
So Jake, you mentioned like boxes, which implies that you have a checklist of things that you're trying to fill when you look at potential acquisitions, et cetera. Can you kind of run through like what's important to you and to the team? And then how likely you are to vary from those -- that checklist and criteria and other cases and give where you did that and why? Just trying to get into the mindset that you're carrying as you're evaluating potential acquisitions.
Yes, sure. I mean, we're -- we have -- it's a pretty robust acquisition criteria, and we're fairly rigid about it. But some of the things that we look for is a high-growth asset in general. If it's not growing, if it's going to drag our growth in a material way, it's not something that we're likely interested in. Being very, very integrated from the perspective of really tied into the software platforms that sit at the customer level and that customers use as kind of their primary tool to run their businesses is extremely important. Making sure that you're very, very involved in the workflow. And then just a very strong, unique and defensible value proposition and strong, strong payment tailwinds in terms of moving an industry and usually a specific vertical that is moving away from legacy payment technology and mediums towards kind of the more forward-thinking payment products that we push.
And one of the things that's striking to me, at least about Repay and the company specifically is the strength of the Board and the Board composition and the experience that they carry in the space, et cetera. What role is the Board playing in terms of your interactions with them, Jake, and where are they focused in? And how are you -- like what are the areas that they can add value and that you're seeing them add value?
Well, you're absolutely right. Our Board is phenomenal. A long list of payment veterans as well as just guys and girls who have been extremely successful in business period. The payment expertise that they provide is phenomenal. I mean, they've seen around a lot of these corners. They have -- they just have a lot of experience in the sector and understand what they're looking at very quickly. So fortunately, there's very little education process with them when they see a new deal. But they are in an advisory role partially. They're not day-to-day involved in the acquisition process. But just as they are in every other aspect of our business, they're very, very informed on the acquisition front and provide phenomenal advice and guidance and connections and relationships in many different ways.
So -- and then last question as it relates to the environment and strategic view on acquisitions, Jake, and I'll open this up for you as well, Tim, is that when we take a step back and we look at the funding environment and the amount of capital that's been flowing into the merchant acquiring and processing segment. It's been massive over particularly the last 1.5 years, for 5 quarters. I think we looked at it a month or so ago or maybe 6 weeks ago that in the last 5 quarters, there had been over $35 billion in new capital raise, not like cumulative valuation but actual new capital that had been raised to target this market. How is that impacting the way that you think about what Repay can and should be doing strategically? The valuations maybe that you have to be willing to accept for companies, is there any impact at all or what kind of an impact? Or is there no impact and you're just kind of running your own race, if you will?
I think it's a little bit of the latter. I mean, we obviously see the valuation being propped up by a lot of the new money that's coming in. But from a deal perspective, we now have a lot more levers that we can pull to make deals work for us. And that can come in the form of -- it largely comes in the form of cost customization from bringing payments onto a cheaper platform being ours as well as personnel and other OpEx reductions. And then secondarily, from a customer and an organic growth perspective, we're not feeling that the world is getting remarkably more competitive as a function of this new money coming in. We're still seeing a remarkable amount of greenfield opportunities across all of our businesses and specifically the B2B businesses, which is the recipient of a lot of these new funds.
Yes, I agree. And we've been really intentional, James, about choosing these end markets and these verticals even in B2B where we've gone into specific verticals within AP, attractive sub-verticals that have a lot of spend where there's opportunity to put that on virtual cards. And so we just try to stay disciplined and focused on what we're doing, what we're trying to achieve, what we've acquired, how does that fit with our overall business? What makes the most strategic sense for us going forward? So we think it's a good thing that capital is coming into the space, that means it's attracting attention. And -- it's becoming -- it's stepping up everybody's game from a technology and product perspective, which we think is always a good thing. And we are investing a lot of dollars organically to grow through product and technology, which we think is just a good thing for our customers as well. So we're trying to stay disciplined and focused. We recognize there's a lot of money coming into the space, and we'll try to find ways to benefit from that.
Got it. Got it. Sorry, just as I ask Tim here the next question. I want to ask about financial targets, capital structure, et cetera. Jake, can I get you mute your phone just so every time I get excited, it doesn't flip over to you on the feedback loop? So Tim, maybe you can recap for us like what you've laid out for investors in terms of what we should be expecting for growth rates, profitability, pace of margin expansion and what that's going to translate into in terms of capital structure and the like?
Yes. So long term, I think, like I said earlier, we think organic growth can be in the high teens to 20%. We just have a very large addressable market opportunity, a lot of tailwinds from paper to digital. And then really nice end markets that we have very strong integrations across all of them. And so -- and we've grown our sales force considerably, and we're investing in a product and technologies. All that sets us up really well for organic growth. Most of it coming from existing customers. And we think with the BillingTree acquisition, we can have gross profit margins kind of in the mid-70s. And we think adjusted EBITDA margins will be kind of low to mid-40s, probably a little bit -- probably more toward the low 40s. And I say that because the market is so large and there's so much volume to get, we would prefer to reinvest incremental gross profit dollars in growth versus adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. So we already feel like our adjusted EBITDA margins are pretty strong, and we would want to sort of keep them where they are versus expand them just because we'd rather focus on growth. And I think for capital, we want to stay right now running at about 8% to 10% of our revenue on CapEx and we think that's a good area for us to facilitate supporting that growth. And then I think we would -- for any additional inorganic, we would look to leverage our balance sheet for that.
And what's the right debt ratios or capital structure that you feel comfortable with? And a lot of times in this space, you see that even though there's like a targeted level, it can vary quite a bit depending on what is happening with acquisitions, et cetera. So what do those boundaries look like for you, Tim?
Yes. So post-BillingTree, we're at about 2.9x net leverage. We would be comfortable for the right deals stretching up to probably 4x or maybe even a little bit more than 4x, knowing that the target leverage point, to your comment earlier, is probably 3x to 3.5x. So if we had to stretch up for an attractive strategic deal, we would know that we could delever fairly quickly back down to that target rate. I'd also say, we have very favorable terms on our debt right now, zero-coupon debt. And so from a debt service perspective, that's not an issue. And so I think we can easily support more leverage. We have a past evidence of doing that. So those are kind of how we think about the ranges and boundaries of leverage levels and that's something we'd be very mindful of with future M&A.
So -- and what you just described, like it sounds like in some ways, even with the acquisition is that you're a little bit underlevered versus what you would think is kind of optimal. And so does that get addressed, do you think, through an acquisition? Do you think there are more acquisitions to get done this year and that we should be paying attention to or at least anticipating conceptually? Or frankly, does it make sense to take on some debt to buy back stock, et cetera? Like just how are you thinking about that? Or is it a matter of just don't know, leave the powder dry, see what happens over the next 6 to 12 months?
Yes. I think again, we could probably step up the organic investment and use some cash just to fund and support future organic growth. And then I think we do have a healthy M&A pipeline. There are targets we see across a lot of verticals like health care and B2B. And so I think if the right asset came along, we could utilize our balance sheet for that. And we just have to kind of see where we're trading to evaluate anything around buybacks and what that would look like versus acquisitions. But we're -- we've been focused on growth. And so I think we would stay focused on growth and utilizing our balance sheet both for inorganic -- for organic and inorganic opportunities.
Jake, in the last minute or 2 that we have here, I'll ask each of you. But for you, what is kind of your key to-do list things that you're trying to and are important to accomplish this year and things that matter from a strategic perspective and then your role?
Well, it's focused on the M&A front, but also adding some value post-close and making sure that the M&A strategy aligns with that of the organic strategy. We kind of took a relatively big bite out in terms of the BillingTree acquisition. So we've -- I don't know if we're fully done for the year, that is kind of to be determined. But the pipeline is always something that we're spending time on, right? I mean, that's the -- our ability to continue to do these acquisitions with a high degree of regularity is a function of our sourcing strategy, and that's something that we never can relax on. So continuing to stay in front of assets, continuing to talk to not only owner-operators but also private equity firms that have assets, that make sense for us, and potentially get to a deal that might not ever hit the market. BillingTree is a good example of a deal that was owned by a very well-regarded private equity fund and a good investor in the space, but never hit the market because we reached the deal with them early. We're going to look for more of those opportunities and also make sure that all of our integration synergy targets are hit throughout the end of the year.
Got it. And for you, Tim, as you kind of look at things holistically from a financial perspective, what are the key points of execution that kind of preoccupy you but at the same time, were other potential like volatility in the business that you want to monitor and make sure that Repay is executing through?
Yes. So just like Jake said, stay focused on the BillingTree integration and prior acquisition integrations, make sure that we don't take our eye off the ball on that. And then synergy realization is a big part of that integration and the other finance team is responsible for helping to drive a lot of that. And then also, we announced this partnership with Protego, which is a firm in Ireland to help us find more development resources and throughput because really what a big part of my job is, is resource allocation to make sure that we are hitting growth targets, that we are winning large customer opportunities because we have the right sales, product and technology resources in place, and we're funding that appropriately. In addition to monitoring the capital structure and the balance sheet and some of the items we talked about earlier. So those are all focus areas for us heading into the end of the year.
That's awesome. Tim, Jake, thank you very much for joining us today to talk about Repay. For those of you that have joined us via the webcast, please feel free to reach out to us here at Morgan Stanley, if you'd like to follow up. And thank you for joining us. And everybody, have a good day.
Absolutely. Thank you, James. Thank you, everyone. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
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