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RxSight, Inc. (RXST) Earnings Call Transcript

May 10, 2023

NASDAQ US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 15 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Craig Bijou analyst
#1

Craig Bijou, medical device analyst for BofA. And it's a pleasure to have RxSight here, and from the company, Ron Kurtz, CEO; and Shelley Thunen, CFO. So Ron, Shelley, thank you for coming.

Shelley Thunen executive
#2

Thank you very much for having us.

Craig Bijou analyst
#3

So it's a bit of an abbreviated fireside chat, so I kind of want to hit on the hot topics.

Craig Bijou analyst
#4

ASCRS obviously happened last weekend. And from what we've heard, there was a lot of buzz around you guys. So would just love to hear your feedback from the conference, what the feedback from docs were? How does that compare to prior year conferences? And is there an acceleration in interest in you guys and in your technology?

Ronald Kurtz executive
#5

Yes. Well, thank you, Craig. So I'd start off by saying that the ASCRS conference was very well attended. We heard from the organization that attendance was back to pre-pandemic levels and above 2019. So that was good news. We certainly saw that on the exhibit floor. Our booth was busy for most of the time, and we had a number of presentations both at the main meeting as well as in our booth. Overall, we've seen kind of continued growth and interest in the Light Adjustable Lens over the last couple of years since we've been commercial. And that certainly was true again at the ASCRS meeting with just a larger presence. You went to a number of the main sessions. Even if the LAL wasn't the topic of a talk, it was brought up as an option or as a potential solution for particular patients. So that was nice, and that was reflected also in the booth, a lot of interest from both existing customers and surgeons as well as ones who are considering the technology.

Craig Bijou analyst
#6

That's great. And I would love -- obviously, your LDD, the system growth has been very strong. LAL utilization, also very strong. Would love to kind of hear how docs are adopting your technology. What are the procedures or what lenses are they kind of using LALs instead of in the premium market? And I guess how do you see that pattern of adoption? Once they do buy a system, how much do they start using LALs as a percentage of their broader premium IOL portfolio?

Ronald Kurtz executive
#7

Yes. So I think that I'll start off by just saying that every practice is different. So it's very different. It's very difficult to generalize. However, over the last couple of years, we've seen a general trend towards more interest in the LAL and faster adoption within the practice. So once a practice adopts the technology, especially now as we are into the customer profiles who are not necessarily -- they're not the early adopters anymore. They are doctors who are -- or practices that are acquiring the technology because they've already observed how it's led to practice successes in their colleagues around the country. And so they're acquiring the technology to be able to offer it to as many patients as possible. So they're coming in with that mindset. And then our team, our field teams are focused on making sure that they succeed as early as possible. And we've learned a lot over the last several years of commercialization. With respect to where patients are coming from, it's interesting, in the last couple of years, we've done a customer survey. Actually a third party has done a customer survey. And we've presented that at various meetings, looking at that question, where are LAL patients coming from? And it's been very consistent for the last couple of years that while we do -- the majority of patients are coming from other premium IOLs, most of those -- a large fraction of patients, about 40% are actually coming from the monofocal market. And at first, that might seem surprising, why are patients who are not choosing a monofocal IOL with the current -- with other premium IOLs, why are they choosing an LAL? But if you look at the cataract population as a whole, about 40% of that population has some ocular comorbidity, some other condition that would make them relatively less of a candidate for a multifocal IOL, which, of course, splits light and reduces contrast vision. And so those might be patients who have had previous corneal refractive surgery. It might be patients who have glaucoma or other ocular conditions that already reduce their vision to some degree and where you don't want to add additional loss from a multifocal IOL. And that's -- those patients are disproportionately becoming LAL patients and drawing new patients into the premium market. And then again, we're offering -- for patients who otherwise would choose a toric IOL, about 1/3 of our patients come from that group, we correct astigmatism about twice as well as a standard toric IOL and also give the patient the ability to customize their vision postoperatively, larger value. And so -- and then the other patients who are coming from presbyopia-correcting IOLs but may like the customization or the lack of optical side effects that are associated with multifocal lenses.

Craig Bijou analyst
#8

And do you -- I mean do you have visibility on a practice-specific perspective on the percentage of LALs they do of their premium? And I guess -- I know it varies by practice. But on average, are you seeing that kind of tick up? And I guess what ultimately drives that increased percentage of what lens they're using?

Ronald Kurtz executive
#9

Yes. It's very -- we don't have precise data on individual practices. The numbers that I mentioned to you, those are voice of customer. And so you can -- they're not based on quantitative accounting of those -- of what they're doing. Generally, there's a range of adoption, as you would expect. But a metric that The Street looks at and you can look at an aggregate level is the number of LALs per LDD per month that are being used. And that has ticked up considerably over the last couple of years. And we don't manage the business to that number because it's an aggregate number, and we're really focused on at the doctor and the practice level, driving continued adoption. If a practice is doing 5 procedures and we think that they can do more, we'll help them do more. If they're doing 20 procedures and we think they can do more, we'll help them do more for that as well.

Craig Bijou analyst
#10

Okay. Maybe that's a good segue. You guys reported Q1 results yesterday. And just kind of on the seasonality patterns, if you look at the numbers, you guys -- both LDDs and LALs and the utilization was only down a minor amount compared to Q4, which was better than what we were expecting. But would love to just get a sense for how to think about that seasonality throughout the rest of the year on both the LDDs and the utilization of LALs.

Shelley Thunen executive
#11

Okay. Yes, Q1 was very strong for us. We sold 56 LDDs, and we ended the quarter with 456 installed base. The total number of LDDs year-over-year placed were up 40%. We had 10,523 LALs implanted, and that was up 153% from a year ago quarter. And of course, revenues at $17.5 million, which were up 96% but also, importantly, up over 8% over Q4, which is typically your strongest quarter of the year, both for LDD capital equipment sales as well as for procedures. As we think about the balance of the year, Q1 can be a little lighter than Q4, but we had a really great Q1 on both sides of the business. Typically, Q2 is strong. Q3 tends to be a little bit weaker, in that doctors are on vacation and patients sometimes are on vacation. Although this is an older population, right, 60 to 70, sometimes a little bit older and sometimes retired, they're still going on vacation with their families. So you'll see that a little bit. And then fourth quarter tends to be both the strongest for both capital as well as procedures. On the capital side, then at that point in time, the practice has really good visibility into their capital budget. They're going to spend what they need to do to enter up the new year. And then of course, there's a little bit of a backlog of procedures for that. Because we've been relatively small, new to the market, we've been able to grow through that seasonality, right? And so typically, the way we look at it is, what is the percentage increase from the previous quarter? And what we're looking for is sequential growth. But certainly, in the third quarter, it will tend to be maybe a little lower percentage coming off of a good second quarter and then fourth quarter being the highest overall.

Craig Bijou analyst
#12

Got it. Helpful. And a couple of, I guess, I'll call the topical questions, I think you've gotten them before. The premium IOL market, there's been some noise about the strength of the demand. And I think it's more a subsegment of the market focus. But would love to hear from a market perspective, how is the premium IOL market, recognizing you guys are doing extremely well but from a market perspective?

Shelley Thunen executive
#13

Do you want to take that, Ron?

Ronald Kurtz executive
#14

Sure. So I think we always have to consider the entire premium market. And in the U.S., the premium market consists primarily of presbyopia-correcting IOLs or PC IOLs and toric or astigmatism-correcting IOLs and then now adjustable IOLs. And if we look historically, the premium market in general has been much less sensitive to overall economic conditions than, say, other private pay ophthalmic procedures like LASIK, for instance, being the prototypical one. And if you go back both in 2000, 2008, LASIK mirrored the broader economic conditions almost exactly, and we were in that market in the 2000 range. The premium IOL market really hasn't -- and it's only been around for about 15 years or so or 17 years. But even in the 2008, 2009 time frame, you saw continued growth in the premium IOL space. What you did see is that -- and sometimes this is misinterpreted because people focus on the PC or presbyopia-correcting IOL. You saw a leveling off of demand in the PC IOL in 2008, 2009. But that really was due to the introduction of toric IOLs or astigmatism-correcting IOLs, which were growing at a very fast pace. And so the overall astigmatism -- the overall premium IOL market continued to grow. What you also see is -- and I think this is a more significant impact, is we've seen cyclical changes in the PC IOL market based on product cycle. So oftentimes you'll see new products introduced in the multifocal space on the promise that they're going to have fewer side effects and therefore be more broadly accepted. Physicians will try those out. You'll see an increase in use. And then over a period of a year or 2 or 3, the realization that those technologies still have the same side effect profile in there and then you'll see a waning and a movement to what we would call quality of vision. And that would -- in this context, we would see that as, on the low end, would be towards a toric IOL and on the higher end an adjustable IOL.

Shelley Thunen executive
#15

Yes. But can I just mention that this is a clinically driven sale, right, as well as the doctor and the practice having the opportunity to make more money in the patient pay segment. But in addition, if you just look at the FDA comparative trials, our results were twice as good. And then of course, John Vukich presented a paper at ASCRS with our latest Phase IV data with 351 patients. And again, even though this is an all-comer, our results continue to get better. So patients have much better outcomes with our product. And so we wouldn't expect to see this flipping around of product as well. And with competitive products, there's no switching costs. They can just try it out, whereas with ours, we do have a piece of capital equipment, and they're committed to it. And what they see is their patients are delighted and they're getting the best results they possibly can. So I think that we're not in that cyclical switching around that sometimes you see. Would you add anything to that, Ron?

Ronald Kurtz executive
#16

No, I agree. Quality of vision ultimately wins out.

Craig Bijou analyst
#17

Great. Thank you. And with that, we're out of time. So thank you, Ron, Shelley.

Ronald Kurtz executive
#18

Thank you.

Shelley Thunen executive
#19

Yes. Thank you for having us, Craig. Thank you very much.

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