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Shakti Pumps (India) Limited (531431) Earnings Call Transcript

July 22, 2024

BSE Limited IN Industrials Machinery earnings 60 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Shakti Pumps India Limited Q1 FY '25 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rohit Anand from Ernst & Young LLP. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Rohit Anand.

Rohit Anand attendee
#2

Good afternoon, everyone. Before we proceed, let me remind you that this discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our business risk that could cause future results, performance or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. To take us forward through the financial results and development and to answer your questions today, we have the senior management of Shakti Pumps India Limited, represented by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, Chairman; Mr. Ramesh Patidar, Managing Director; Mr. Dinesh Patel, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Ravi Patidar, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer. We will start the call with a brief overview of the past quarter by Mr. Patidar followed by an interactive Q&A session. I will now hand over the call to Mr. Patidar. Over to you, sir.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#3

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel executive
#4

Thank you, sir. Good afternoon, everyone. During the Q1 FY '25, our revenue was at INR 567.6 crores, which increased from INR 113.1 crore in the same quarter last year, reporting a growth of 4x. Our EBITDA stood at INR 135.9 crore as against INR 7.9 crore in Q1 FY '24. EBITDA margins were at 23.9% in this quarter, as against 7% in Q1 FY '24. The expansion in margin was largely driven by economics of scale and higher execution of orders along with some benefit accrued due to declined raw material prices. Profit after tax stood at INR 92.6 crore compared to INR 1 crore in Q1 FY '24. Rate margin stood at 16.3% as compared to 0.9% in the corresponding quarter of the previous fiscal. The company's long-term credit rating has been upgraded to A+ stable from India Ratings and Research. With our strong balance sheet and the key metrics, we are confident in the timely completion of order book and consolidate our position in the market. With this, I now request the moderator to open the floor for question and answer. Thank you.

Operator operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Deepak Purswani from Swan Investments.

Deepak Purswani analyst
#6

Congratulations on very good set of numbers. Sir, firstly, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Deepak Purswani analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Deepak Purswani analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Deepak Purswani analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Deepak Purswani analyst
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Okay. Sir, [Foreign Language] there are some new players who are also entering in this space. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Deepak Purswani analyst
#16

Okay. And secondly, sir, on the margin front [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#17

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Deepak Purswani analyst
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Operator operator
#19

[Operator Instructions]

Deepak Purswani analyst
#20

Yes. I'm just continuing the existing question.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#21

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Operator operator
#22

The next question is from Aashish Upganlawar from InvesQ.

Aashish Upganlawar analyst
#23

Sir, on the Ajmer pilot project, any updates on that? And [Foreign Language] how things are looking and [Foreign Language] if it goes through, in the next maybe 1 or 2 years? How things look?

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Aashish Upganlawar analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Aashish Upganlawar analyst
#27

[Foreign Language] As of now, whatever you know.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#28

Same time. [Foreign Language]

Aashish Upganlawar analyst
#29

Okay. Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#30

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Operator operator
#31

[Operator Instructions] So the next question is from Harshil Solanki from Equitree Capital.

Harshil Solanki analyst
#32

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#33

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Harshil Solanki analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
#35

Right. Right.

Harshil Solanki analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Harshil Solanki analyst
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Got it. Got it. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Harshil Solanki analyst
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Okay. Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Dinesh Patel executive
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Harshil Solanki analyst
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Dinesh Patel executive
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Harshil Solanki analyst
#45

Yes, yes.

Operator operator
#46

[Operator Instructions]

Harshil Solanki analyst
#47

Yes, right after this answer, I'll get back.

Dinesh Patel executive
#48

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Operator operator
#49

So, sir the next question is from -- the next question is from Avi Agarwal from Arihant Capital Markets Limited.

Avi Agarwal analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Avi Agarwal analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Avi Agarwal analyst
#54

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#55

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Operator operator
#56

The next question is from [ Parth Mehta ] [indiscernible]. Sorry, the next question is from [indiscernible].

Unknown Analyst analyst
#57

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#58

Thank you, Rajesh-ji. Thank You.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#59

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#60

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Unknown Analyst analyst
#61

[Foreign Language] central government, everything is clear.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#62

[Foreign Language] Everything is very clear. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst analyst
#63

[Foreign Language] situation of all stakeholders.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#64

Right, sir. Everybody should...

Unknown Analyst analyst
#65

Very good. [Foreign Language] CFO can share the number or you have the number. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel executive
#66

[Foreign Language] around 70,000, 80,000-something.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#67

70,000, 80,000. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel executive
#68

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Unknown Analyst analyst
#69

[Foreign Language] percentage of revenue would be how much?

Operator operator
#70

[Operator Instructions]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#71

78%.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#72

78%. Okay. Congratulations and all the best.

Operator operator
#73

The next question is from Tushar Jain from Sumitomo Mitsui DS Asset Management.

Tushar Jain analyst
#74

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#75

[Foreign Language]

Tushar Jain analyst
#76

[Foreign Language] major raw material [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#77

Major raw material, solar panel, stainless steel, copper [Foreign Language]. Stainless steel, copper, solar panel.

Tushar Jain analyst
#78

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#79

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Operator operator
#80

The next question is from Ajay Kumar Surya from Niveshaay.

Ajay Surya analyst
#81

Sir, congratulation on this fantastic number. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#82

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Ajay Surya analyst
#83

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Dinesh Patel executive
#84

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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Ajay Surya analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Ajay Surya analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
#89

[Foreign Language].

Ajay Surya analyst
#90

[Foreign Language] So going forward, sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#91

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Ajay Surya analyst
#92

Sir. And sir, [Foreign Language]

Operator operator
#93

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Swati Jhunjhunwala from JM Financial.

Swati Jhunjhunwala analyst
#94

[Foreign Language] submersible pumps versus solar pumps [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#95

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Swati Jhunjhunwala analyst
#96

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#97

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Operator operator
#98

The next question is from Bharat Shah from Ask Investment Managers Limited. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from [indiscernible].

Unknown Analyst analyst
#99

[Foreign Language] Slide #30 or 31. Slide #30 [Foreign Language].

Dinesh Patidar executive
#100

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Dinesh Patel executive
#101

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Unknown Analyst analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
#103

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Unknown Analyst analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
#105

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Unknown Analyst analyst
#106

Sir, [Foreign Language] market size [Foreign Language] 1,470 billion.

Dinesh Patel executive
#107

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Unknown Analyst analyst
#108

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#109

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Unknown Analyst analyst
#110

Sir, is the [Foreign Language] replacement cycle [Foreign Language].

Dinesh Patidar executive
#111

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Unknown Analyst analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
#113

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Unknown Analyst analyst
#114

Okay. Sir, last question, [Foreign Language] EBITDA margin [Foreign Language] somewhere around [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel executive
#115

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Operator operator
#116

The next question is from Bharat Shah from ASK Investment Managers Limited.

Bharat Shah analyst
#117

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel executive
#118

[Foreign Language] 15% to 16% of margin [Foreign Language] 30% the growth to minimum [Foreign Language] EBITDA margin level [Foreign Language] 15% to 16% growth level [Foreign Language].

Bharat Shah analyst
#119

30% [Foreign Language].

Dinesh Patidar executive
#120

Year-on-year basis [Foreign Language] Quarter-on-quarter basis [Foreign Language] quarter-on-quarter basis [Foreign Language] INR 500 crores.

Bharat Shah analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Bharat Shah analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Bharat Shah analyst
#125

[Foreign Language] margin structurally [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#126

Mostly the external factor [Foreign Language] raw material, the prices [Foreign Language] 65% raw material [Foreign Language]

Bharat Shah analyst
#127

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#128

[Foreign Language] especially power electronics or motor [Foreign Language]

Operator operator
#129

The next question is from Darshil Pandya from Finterest Capital.

Darshil Pandya analyst
#130

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#131

'27 [Foreign Language]

Darshil Pandya analyst
#132

'27. Okay. And [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Darshil Pandya analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
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Darshil Pandya analyst
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Sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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Darshil Pandya analyst
#138

[Foreign Language] Question, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#139

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Dinesh Patel executive
#140

[Foreign Language]

Darshil Pandya analyst
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Okay. Okay. And, sir...

Dinesh Patidar executive
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[Foreign Language]

Darshil Pandya analyst
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Got it. Got it. And sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
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[Foreign Language]

Darshil Pandya analyst
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And congratulations and all the best for the coming quarters.

Operator operator
#146

The next question is from Ketan Athavale from RoboCapital.

Ketan Athavale analyst
#147

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#148

[Foreign Language] around 15,000 pumps, revenue around INR 445 crore.

Ketan Athavale analyst
#149

Okay. [Foreign Language] Rough figure.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#150

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Operator operator
#151

The next question is from CA Garvit Goyal from Invest Analytics Advisory, LLP.

CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#152

Am I Audible?

Dinesh Patidar executive
#153

[indiscernible].

CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#154

Congrats for a good set of numbers, sir. Just one question on the sustainability of the growth. [Foreign Language]. And secondly, sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#155

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CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#156

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#157

[Foreign Language]

CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#158

So sir, total CapEx [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#159

INR 250 crore [Foreign Language] INR 200 crore support [Foreign Language]

CA Garvit Goyal analyst
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Dinesh Patidar executive
#161

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CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#162

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Dinesh Patel executive
#163

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CA Garvit Goyal analyst
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And, sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel executive
#165

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#166

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CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#167

And just last question, sir, quarter [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar executive
#168

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CA Garvit Goyal analyst
#169

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Dinesh Patidar executive
#170

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Dinesh Patel executive
#171

[Foreign Language] for the next 15 months.

Operator operator
#172

Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, we will take that as a last question. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Dinesh Patidar for closing comments.

Dinesh Patidar executive
#173

[Foreign Language] Thank you very much.

Operator operator
#174

On behalf of that, concludes Shakti Pumps India Limited, this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you now disconnect your lines.

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