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Tower Limited (TWR) Earnings Call Transcript

May 24, 2023

New Zealand Exchange NZ Financials Insurance earnings 44 min

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Operator operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to the Tower Limited Half Year 2023 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Chairman of Tower Limited, Mr. Stiassny.

Michael Stiassny executive
#2

Thank you, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for making the time to join us for this investor call and presentation of our 2023 half year results. With me in our Auckland office is our Chief Executive Officer, Blair Turnbull; and our Chief Financial Officer, Paul Johnston, who will take you through the results and answer your questions shortly. And what has undoubtedly been a difficult half, Tower is reporting a loss of $5.1 million, although the underlying business performance remain strong. Revenue growth and expense control have improved. And while profits have been impacted by catastrophic weather events, Tower remains resilient. That resilience is a result of the decisive actions Tower has taken and is continuing to strengthen, to address the 3 major external challenges facing our business, along with the rest of New Zealand. And they are catastrophic weather events, inflation and crime. Three catastrophic weather events in the space of 3 months was unprecedented and the consequences for communities across the North Island and Vanuatu are tragic. It's a sobering reminder if one was needed that the risk environment in which we operate is not just changing, it has changed. Data clearly shows the frequency of large events and the severity of the damage they cause has increased over time. Tower has long been urging New Zealand to stop building in risky areas and introduced risk-based pricing to send the right signals to customers and encourage better decision-making by central and local government. Risk-based pricing is fairer from a customer perspective and is also in the best interest of our shareholders. Risk-based pricing is Tower's best protection when it comes to ensuring continued support from reinsurers. It also underpins competitive pricing, robust underwriting, continued growth and constructive action on issues arranging from our changing climate. Tower is expanding its risk-based pricing model to include landslide and coastal hazards this year and will continue to develop innovative products that provide affordable insurance for properties with the right risk profile. While Tower is actively supporting the government's Cyclone Gabrielle Recovery Task Force and Auckland Council's Recovery Program, our focus is on careful risk selection going forward. No one can predict the climate future with any certainty. However, the data indicates that the catastrophic weather events we have experienced in this half are more likely to be symptomatic of a new normal, not a one-off another outlier. I've never been one to mince words and it is inevitable that sooner or later, Tower and other corporates will be unable to provide insurance to everyone. It's a grim reality. I applaud the fact that public discourse is finally moving towards the potential need for managed retreat in some locations. It is absolutely essential that these conversations are had early and in an open and transparent manner with the communities concerned. As a society, we need to ensure the decisions that will eventually need to be made are fully understood and supported as far as possible by the people directly affected. In the new normal of frequent catastrophic events, risk-based pricing, together with being more selective on the risks we take on are vital to ensure Tower can remain a resilient business. And importantly, it enables us to be competitive against the Australian duopoly and underpins continued availability of reinsurance. Tower has been able to proactively manage inflationary pressures through targeted rating and underwriting actions, ensuring monthly rating changes, mitigate reinsurance and weather-related cost increases. We have kept pace with inflation and will continue to do so. Similarly, in the wake of increasing levels of motor crime, Tower has identified those vehicles subject to higher rates of theft and made appropriate changes to rates and excess charges. Being able to act swiftly and decisively to address emerging issues on a granular level is at the heart of the digital transformation Tower has undergone in recent years. Flexibility and agility are fundamental to Tower's continued confidence in its ability to successfully mitigate external challenges beyond our control and remain resilient. As a result, Tower expects to deliver a profit in FY '23. Tower's full year underlying net profit after-tax guidance is between 8 million and 13 million with a large events allowance of $50 million. As indicated earlier this month, today, we confirm that we will not be paying an interim dividend. This decision, while disappointing, reflects the Board's focus on prudent fiscal management. Our decision on a full year dividend will be made when Tower's final year results are finalized. Before I hand over to Blair, I'd like to acknowledge the Tower team. As we all recognize, it's been a particularly difficult time for communities bearing the brunt of the storms. And the team is working hard to settle claims efficiently and support affected customers. So to the team again, thank you. I'll now hand over to Blair and Paul, who will take you through the results and outlook before we answer questions.

Blair Turnbull executive
#3

Kia ora. Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our 2023 half year financial results, which see Tower reporting improved revenue growth and expense control with profits impacted by catastrophic weather events. Today's results demonstrate that we are operating in a changing climate and risk environment. As we navigate this new normal, it is critical that New Zealand maintains a strong insurance industry for the future. We intend to be here for the long term to continue to thrive and deliver value to our customers and communities and people and our shareholders. The investments we've made in our technology and operational efficiencies, robust reinsurance and enhanced hazard modeling will continue to underpin our resilience and ability to address external challenges. And as Michael outlined, we are proactively managing climate-related weather impacts through risk-based pricing and product innovations, and we are keeping pace with inflation by a targeted rating and underwriting actions, also addressing increasing vehicle theft and increasing claims costs with rating and excess changes. I will talk you through these actions shortly, but first, a summary of our performance this half. Gross written premium for the first -- for the half year to 31 March increased to $245 million, up 15% on the same period last year and this was driven by strong rating actions to address continued inflation, additional reinsurance premiums and higher motor and other claims frequency as well as continuing customer acquisition and retention. Increasing motor theft and a higher frequency of motor claims post-COVID have contributed to an increase in the BAU claims ratio to 51.6% compared to 48.6% in half year '22. We are pleased to see our management expense ratio further improve again to 35.1% versus 35.8% in HY '22, thanks to our disciplined cost control and further efficiencies. Excluding large events costs, our underlying profit is up 30% on half year '22 to $23.6 million. Net costs for large events totaled $33.9 million, up from $17.9 million in half year '22. We will cover these events and our actions to manage these impacts in more detail shortly. Given these large events costs, our combined operating ratio increased to 105.3% from 94.8% in the half year 2022. Reflecting these challenges, we are reporting an underlying net loss after-tax, including large events costs of $3.3 million, down from a profit of $5.4 million in the first half of FY '22. And reported half year '23 loss was $5.1 million compared to a $3 million profit in the half year 2022. This was impacted by strengthening of the residual Canterbury earthquake and multi-policy discount remediation provisions and was partially offset by the sale of Tower's Papua New Guinea subsidiary and our building in Suva. As you can see in this graph, the frequency of disaster events in New Zealand has been increasing steadily since the late 1960s and then accelerating more recently. Prior to 2023, the 10-year rolling average of large event cost per tower was around $14 million a year, while 2023 looks very different with total event costs for the 12 months ending 31 March at a record high of $294 million. Tower is continuously monitoring these trends and has important mitigations in place to help manage these risks primarily through our risk-based pricing approach and our robust reinsurance program, which has provided protection from the catastrophe events experienced in New Zealand this half. We have completed approximately 30% of claims for the Auckland and Upper North Island weather event and Cyclone Gabrielle. Around 5% of claims for Cyclones Judy and Kevin in Vanuatu have been settled, and we are working efficiently to close the remainder. These events are predominantly covered by reinsurance with the cost to Tower for each the Auckland and Upper North Island weather event and Cyclone Gabrielle limited to $11.9 million excess. The estimated impact of the Vanuatu cyclones is $10 million net of reinsurance recoveries. Accordingly, we have increased our FY '23 large events allowance to $50 million net of reinsurance recoveries, up from $40 million. Tower is proactively managing this increasing frequency and severity of large events that are linked to our changing climate. With our approach to risk-based pricing, we are sharing information with customers about their properties so they can make informed decisions and understand their insurance needs and premiums better. Risk-based pricing is a fair way to price insurance as customers only pay for the risks that apply to their property. Since implementing our flood modeling in 2021, we have tested our model against the actual impacts of subsequent flood events and these have matched closely every time. While the most recent floods were particularly severe, a testing has confirmed that they followed the patterns we had modeled, which continues to give us confidence in the accuracy of our pricing and underwriting. Additionally, we are actively working to improve and refine our risk-based pricing to ensure we further protect the business from the volatility of weather events. Immediately following the events this first half, we implemented heightened risk selection criteria for landslide risks. We've also increased the weighting we put on the flood risk portion of customer premiums to ensure our pricing accurately reflects the changing risk profile. And in addition, we're working to expand a hazard model to include landslide and coastal hazards and we plan to implement automated pricing for these risks in the second half of 2023. Ensuring our product development and innovation supports climate change resilience and action is also a priority as well as we ensure we continue to offer relevant insurance products well into the future. And for example, we are planning to expand our parametric insurance pilot in Fiji to also cover cyclone hazards in Tonga and Samoa. Our Cyclone Response Cover provides a lower value rapid cash payout when a customer is impacted by a high wind speed cyclone event regardless of damage and without the need for an insurance assessor's sign-off. Tower's advantage is our ability to identify and quickly address emerging trends, thanks to our investments in digital and data technology and the decisive actions we've taken to deliver improvements. As we respond to the challenges presented by climate change, Tower has also actively been managing the impacts of both inflation and increasing claims costs, particularly motor crime. Since we started seeing the effects of inflation 2 years ago, Tower has responded dynamically with decisive monthly rating actions. And as you can see on this chart, we have consistently kept pace with inflation across our motor in-house premiums. The sharp rise in premiums earlier this year reflects the rating actions we've taken to mitigate the increasing cost of reinsurance and weather events. We are continuing to ensure the accuracy of customer's sum insured amounts, and therefore, their pricing by updating these automatically at renewal, either by the consumer price index or the Cordell calculator. As we noted at our Annual Shareholder Meeting in February, motor theft is a continuing challenge in New Zealand, and it now accounts for more than 10% of total motor claims costs around double historical averages. And as you can see in this chart, New Zealand police data clearly reflects this growing and concerning trend. This type of prime not only affects the victim's property and well-being, it affects their insurance too. While we're, of course, supporting customers with information to help mitigate the thefts, it should come as no surprise that we are also responding with actions to protect the impact on both our business and other policyholders. And these include increasing premiums and excesses for vehicle models that are being stolen more regularly. Due to our disciplined performance, we remain a resilient business. We are mitigating risks from large event costs, motor crime and inflation and we are managing our expenses and we are growing well. Importantly, we are focused on supporting customers, while working efficiently to settle the claims from the recent large events. Through digitization and our agile approach to pricing and underwriting, we are continuing to address the challenges presented by inflation. Through targeted organic growth as well as strong rating actions, we're expecting GWP growth of 15% to 20% over the year and we expect to continue a positive trend of delivering operational efficiencies. We have successfully completed the reinstatement of our reinsurance arrangements and have protection for 2 additional catastrophe events of up to $889 million per event for the remainder of the financial year. We expect the storm in Auckland on 9th of May to be a large event in the range of $4 million to $6 million. Tower's 2023 full year underlying net profit after-tax guidance is between NZD 8 million and NZD 13 million, assuming the $50 million large events allowance is used. We have between NZD 10 million and NZD 12 million of our large events allowance remaining for any further large events in this financial year. Tower's focus on simple and rewarding customer experiences combined with consistent rating actions have contributed to strong growth in both customers and premium. We have grown our customer numbers to 320,000, up 5% on the 2022 half year. And New Zealand risks in force also grew by 5% to 592,000. A 15% growth in premium reflects an appropriate mix of rating and organic growth with 60% of our New Zealand premium growth driven by decisive rating actions. As you can see, in this 12-month rolling view, we are growing steadily in our core home, contents and motor product offerings with GWP now reaching $486 million year-on-year. Our digitization strategy continues to drive deeper customer engagement and growth with our retention rate for Tower Direct up to 79% versus 78% in HY '22. We are continuing to sell more to existing customers who stay with us longer as we grow. Half of our New Zealand customers have 2 more products with Tower, and these customers stay with us for an average of 8 years. All 3 of our business channels are growing and delivering efficiency improvements. Tower Direct, our flagship business grew GWP by 19% to $183 million as we continue to build rewarding and engaging relationships with customers. Contributing to this was our strong 88% retention of the customers we transition to Tower Direct via our legacy bank book acquisitions. Our leading digital platform continues to perform strongly and increase customer engagement. In HY '23, My Tower registrations grew to 237,000, up 44% on half year '22. Partnerships. Our partnerships channel is continuing to deliver positive growth with GWP from active partners increasing by 23% to $37 million for the half year. The number of advisors referring customers to Tower has also expanded, increasing by 57% over the year to 2,200 active advisors. And thanks to the successful completion of our strategy of acquiring legacy insurance books and migrating them to Tower Direct last year, our commission payments continue to reduce and our net commission expense is now equivalent to just 2.1% of gross earned premium compared to 2.3% in HY '22. In the Pacific, we are continuing to digitize and simplify our Pacific offering, aligning our New Zealand and Pacific activities more closely to deliver growth and efficiencies. And with the simplification of mind, we completed the sale of our Papua New Guinea subsidiary in October. The full My Tower experience is now available across all of our Pacific markets where we operate, contributing to Pacific GWP, growing by 9% year-on-year to $24 million in the first half. We are continuing to tighten our risk appetite in the Pacific to focus on our core personal lines offering. Following Cyclones, Judy and Kevin, we have paused sales of house policies -- cyclone house policies in Vanuatu as we reassess the risk environment. The customer and efficiency benefits from our leading digital and data technology platform are continuing to be realized. Our digital platform is driving down the cost to acquire new business and serve customers, increasingly adopting our online sales and service channels. This is evidenced by 76% of New Zealand direct sales now occurring online, up from 63% in the prior year and 54% of New Zealand's service and claims tasks now completed online, up from 49% in half year '22. Our investments in digital technology are increasingly enabling us to move workflows to our Suva hub, which is continuing to lower telephony and service costs. These efficiency improvements are following through -- are flowing through to improve customer satisfaction with our New Zealand Online Net Promoter Score improving to a pleasing 58% in half year '23. On top of winning Canstar's top Car Insurer of the Year award and Outstanding Value award for the second year running last year, we were proud also to win a Canstar Outstanding Value award for our home and contents insurance product. The agility of our core platform continues to deliver efficiency improvements, including rapid deployment of technology releases, which now only take us 25 minutes a day, down from 2 hours previously. Our investments in simplifying and digitizing our business continue to deliver MER improvements. And in the context of the external challenges we are managing, we are particularly pleased to have achieved yet another reduction in MER to 35.1% this half. With our core platform live across all countries, we have simplified our organizational alignment around our 3 customer journeys; new business, service and claims rather than across geographical locations. And the setup is aimed at delivering consistent and repeatable processes across our business, which continue to reduce complexity, duplication and risk. In addition to these operational efficiencies, a key driver of MER improvements is our increasing scale being achieved through digitization. I will now hand you over to our Chief Financial Officer, Paul Johnston, who will take you through the details of our financial performance this half.

Paul Johnston executive
#4

Thank you, Blair. Looking at the consolidated results, we can see that growth in GWP has continued, increasing by $28.9 million or 15% on HY '22. As Michael and Blair have highlighted, increased motor frequency driven by crime has contributed to our BAU loss ratio increasing 3% to 51.6%. The reinsurance reinstatement costs contributed a $3.4 million impact in the half year. Pleasingly, management expenses improved to 35.1%, as we continue to deliver expense efficiencies and increasing scale through the benefits of digitization. Underlying NPAT before large events increased 30% to $23.6 million, demonstrating strong business performance. Including large event costs, we have reported an underlying net loss after-tax of $3.3 million. Reported loss of $5.1 million was impacted by non-underlying transactions, which include strengthening of the residual Canterbury earthquake provision and multi-policy discount remediation provision. These were partially offset by the sale of Tower's Papua New Guinea subsidiary and our building in Suva. As this chart demonstrates, the large events had a substantial $26.9 million impact on our financial performance, leading to the $3.3 million underlying loss this half. Half year '23 large event costs were $14 million higher than large event costs in half year '22 after-tax. Premium growth provided a $5.8 million benefit to the result, which was partially offset by rising motor claims. Half year '23 saw commissions further reduce by $400,000 and investment income increase by $5.2 million. The half year '22 release of the liability adequacy test provision contributed $1.8 million to the movement between half year '22 and half year '23 underlying NPAT. A $4.3 million increase in after-tax expenses includes amortization of the legacy back book purchases and an increase in staffing costs due to wage inflation and an increased investment in growth. As we have previously noted, reported loss was impacted by strengthening of the residual Canterbury earthquake provision and customer remediation provision, which includes compensation payments as a result of discounts for taking out multi-policies being incorrectly applied. The positive rating actions we've taken in the past 2 years to address the rapidly increasing inflationary pressures have seen improvements. However, BAU claims costs continue to be challenged by the increasing frequency of motor claims as well as inflation, which is impacting the severity or cost of claims. These are tracking above historical norms in New Zealand at 12.7% following a more subdued period due to COVID lockdowns. As motor crime tends to result in the total loss of a vehicle, this trend of increasing motor theft is contributing to both higher frequency and severity with average New Zealand motor claims costs now up to $2,981. While New Zealand house claims frequency is down to 6.9%, average severity is up to $3,499. These factors have led to our BAU loss ratio increasing by 3% on half year '22 to 51.6%. The large events experienced this half have contributed an additional 16.9% to a total claims ratio of 68.5%. As Blair outlined, Tower has applied targeted premium increases across motor and home to offset inflation and other increases. We also continue to work closely with supply chain partners to moderate the impact on customers as much as possible. We are pleased to see our management expense ratio continue to reduce with an improvement over the half year of 0.7% to 35.1%. Business growth has enabled efficiencies and a 4.8 percentage point reduction in MER with a further 0.2 point decrease in net commission expenses due to the legacy back book portfolio purchases. Other MER impacts include a 1.2 percentage point increase in marketing and technology investments, which help drive growth and efficiencies as well as a 1.5 percentage point increase in staff costs associated with inflation and increased investment in growth. Net investment income in half year '23 increased to $6.3 million before tax. This was $7.2 million higher than in half year '22. This increased income reflects interest rate stabilizing, resulting in higher running yields. Tower maintains a conservative investment policy with a focus on high credit quality and liquidity bonds and a target duration of the core investment portfolio of 6 months. Our strategy has mitigated the impact on our profit from macroeconomic factors and market movements in the past and now allows us to benefit from higher interest rates as evidenced by the running yield on the core investment portfolio increasing to 5.45% as at 31 March, 2023. Tower's reinsurance strategy provides protection from volatility caused by large events and maintains financial flexibility to support growth while underpinning strong solvency. This resilience has been realized in the first half as we expect our reinsurance arrangements to protect us from up to an estimate of $276 million of catastrophe event costs. In line with our conservative approach to reinsurance, we have successfully reinstated $187 million of our reinsurance arrangements, which gives us cover for a potential third and fourth catastrophe event each up to $889 million in the balance of the financial year. This week, we completed the purchase of additional catastrophe reinsurance to cover the increased estimate for the ultimate cost of February's Auckland and Upper North Island weather event. The cost for these reinstatements are included in our revised full year guidance and the expense portion of reinstatement premium is included in our half year result. We have mitigated potential increases to future reinsurance premiums and excesses by negotiating 3-year rolling contracts with our reinsurers who we continue to have positive relationships with. We are continuing to make steady progress in settling Canterbury claims with 15 closed over the half. In line with expectations, we received an additional 10 new overcaps and reopened claims, bringing the total number of open claims at the half year to 31. This was a net decrease of 5 from a total of 36 as at the end of September '22. Half year '23 has seen an adverse Canterbury earthquake P&L charge of $1 million after-tax in non-underlying items, reflecting increases in expected claims costs. Some of our open CEQ Christchurch earthquake claims are complex and long term. The increase in expected costs was driven by both inflation and more costly rectification approaches. However, the remaining gross outstanding claims provision reduced down to $22.1 million over the half from $24.5 million at September '22. We continue to closely manage these outstanding claims and our dedicated team is actively working to finalize claims as efficiently as possible. As a result of increased risk from any further catastrophe events and outstanding claims related to the catastrophe events experienced in the half, Tower is required to hold additional capital until claims are settled and reinsurance recoveries are received. With the solvency ratio of 125%, we are holding $25 million above the minimum capital required for solvency. This is below our historical operating range. We are resolutely focused on settling these claims for customers and collecting the recoveries from reinsurers, which will reduce our minimum solvency capital required and improve our solvency position by the year-end. Our [ A minus ] credit rating was reaffirmed in April by A.M. Best. As we communicated to the market on the 8th of May, Tower anticipates full year 2023 underlying net profit after-tax of between 8 and $13 million. This range is based on further growth of between 15% and 20% as well as a large events allowance of $50 million. A final decision on any full year '23 dividend will be made when the full year results are finalized. Thank you. I will now hand back to Blair, who will provide an update on our outlook.

Blair Turnbull executive
#5

Thank you, Paul. As we manage the short and medium-term challenges of inflation, motor crime and the changing climate, we are focused on investing in our future resilience and sustainability. We are scaling our parametric insurance offering by partnering with the United Nations to expand our pilot beyond Fiji to Tonga and Samoa. We are focused on reducing our operational emissions as we recognize that every effort to reduce emissions helps to mitigate global warming. In this half, we have reduced emissions by 59% compared to HY '22, which has largely been achieved through a substantial reduction in Pacific fuel used due to changing driving and commuting patterns. We are currently on track to meet our 5-year Scope 1 and 2 emissions reduction target of 21% by 2025. Importantly, we are continually developing our hazard modeling. And as I've previously outlined, this year we will add landslip as well as coastal erosion and inundation risks to our customer-facing risk ratings tool, educating homeowners transparently about the risks that may impact their properties. We know that sustainability issues are important to our people and customers. Our consumer research shows that for almost half, 47% of people, a commitment to sustainability and climate action matters when choosing an insurance company. And with this in mind, I'm pleased to share that Tower is aiming to achieve B Corp accreditation in the coming year. B Corp is a globally recognized sustainability benchmark, which measures the company's entire social and environmental impact. We are currently making positive progress on our climate change strategy as we move towards the climate-related disclosures regime and we look forward to sharing more with you as we work towards our first disclosure. In summary, our focus remains on continuing our solid underlying operating performance through robust risk management and continued rating actions to mitigate inflation, motor crime and weather events. We continue to focus on targeted customer and premium growth while enhancing our margins through efficiency and organizational improvements. Tower remains committed to mitigating the volatility of large events impacts through risk-based pricing and our robust reinsurance arrangements. And while we manage the effects of the change in climate now, we will continue to invest in future business resilience and sustainability. Ultimately, this leads to attractive earnings and dividends for shareholders in the long term. Thank you for your time this morning. I will now hand back to the operator to ask for any questions.

Operator operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Andrew Buncombe with Macquarie.

Andrew Buncombe analyst
#7

Three from me. The first one is in relation to GWP growth. Can you just give us some color on what you think the impact was of the EQC cap changes on your GWP growth this period?

Paul Johnston executive
#8

Andrew, shall I answer your first question and then you can move on to your next?

Andrew Buncombe analyst
#9

Sure.

Paul Johnston executive
#10

Okay. So GWP growth, we are somewhere between about $6 million and $10 million is what we estimated. So in line with what we're estimating it would be at the full year.

Andrew Buncombe analyst
#11

The second question, how should we be thinking about your $15 million additional license condition charge going forward?

Paul Johnston executive
#12

The regulator has made it clear to us that, that license condition is still there while we have our Christchurch earthquake claims open. And so as we work to close those out, we'll continue to have discussions with the regulator about that charge.

Andrew Buncombe analyst
#13

And then the final one for me. How should we be thinking about your large event allowance in FY '24?

Paul Johnston executive
#14

Yes. We are working through that one. It will be higher than our $30 million is what we're thinking. And the upper limit of that we need to confirm back to yourself in the market.

Operator operator
#15

Our next question comes from the line of James Lindsay with Forsyth Barr.

James Lindsay analyst
#16

Just with regard to the sort of comments around the new normal, I was wondering if you could just comment about how you're forecasting the sort of frequency of events and given the sort of extraordinary nature of this half year's numbers and the history, how do you look at that on a forward basis?

Paul Johnston executive
#17

Well, look, it's hard to get the weather crystal ball out at the moment, James. What we can do is look backwards and we can see a very clear trend of increasing weather event frequency and severity. These events that we faced during the recent months has been a record in terms of the rainfall, as you know, they're record for Cyclone Gabrielle and in the case of Vanuatu Kevin and Judy, they were the largest cyclone events we've ever seen at Tower in our 150-year history. So look, we think these have been extraordinary events and we're managing our way through them. The trend indicates a higher increasing frequency, but this was a 1 in 250 event in the case of Auckland. So we are preparing in terms of our large events allowance appropriately. We've got appropriate cover in place. And we will continue to work our way through the claims, James.

James Lindsay analyst
#18

And then maybe just also on Canterbury given the strengthening as well, can you just talk about your ongoing conversations with EQC about the 10 additional pass-throughs? And are we expecting to see that trend continue? Or is there a likelihood that the pass-throughs -- new pass-throughs will cease at some stage?

Paul Johnston executive
#19

Look, we continue to work closely with the EQC on Canterbury. We have a dedicated team that works on our Canterbury earthquake claims. EQC continues to receive a pipeline of claims coming in. And yes, we continue to look at those and check that -- look robustly at them before we confirm that they are overcaps. And what we are seeing is that we've obviously had a slowdown in that open pipeline in the last 6 months. But there is still a pipeline and the challenge with EQC or with Christchurch earthquake claims is that there is no time limitation on them. However, as I said, we continue to work closely with EQC and the focus is closing those claims out as quickly as possible.

James Lindsay analyst
#20

And lastly, just from me with regard to the MER, and thanks for the extra detail about that and well done on the improvement. Just looking forward with obviously a very strong inflationary environment sort of that 15% to 20%. Do you think the improvements in the MER will accelerate quite considerably over the next 2 or 3 years?

Paul Johnston executive
#21

That is absolutely our focus is to continue to drive down that MER. As you can tell, we keep driving the growth in the top line of the business, which gives us scale benefits. We've already invested a lot in our underlying platform. And so yes, we absolutely will be continuing to drive down that MER and the plan is to accelerate it.

Blair Turnbull executive
#22

And hopefully, James, the key point here is and for the callers is regardless of whether future weather events or in assuming inflation, the key thing here is we can rate to manage that. We're very agile in terms of the way we raise it and put that through and to manage the margin and that's a key part of what we want to do going forward and continue that.

Operator operator
#23

[Operator Instructions] And I'm showing no further questions. So with that, I'll hand the call back over for closing remarks.

Michael Stiassny executive
#24

I'd just like to thank everyone for attending this morning. And as always, the Tower team are here to answer any questions you may think of at a later date. So thanks very much for supporting us and we appreciate it.

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