United Therapeutics Corporation (UTHR) Earnings Call Transcript
March 8, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Everyone, good morning, and thank you for joining us on day 2 of Cowen's 42nd Annual Healthcare Conference. I'm Joe Thome, one of the senior biotech analyst here on the team at Cowen. And it is my pleasure to have with me today President and COO, Michael Benkowitz, of United Therapeutics. And I'm going to kick it over to Head of IR, Dewey Steadman, to read some forward-looking statements.
Hi. Good morning. Today's remarks will likely include forward-looking statements. And we encourage you to see our most recent SEC filings, including Form 10-K and Forms 10-Q available on the SEC EDGAR website. And with that, I'll turn it back over to you, Joe.
Thanks, Dewey. Mike, so maybe to just kick things off, obviously, been an exciting year for United over the past 12 months. Maybe if you could just hit the highlights and what are your key goals for 2022?
Sure, Joe. And good to see you and good to be with everybody today. Thanks for having us. I'm looking forward to our conversation this morning. Yes. So 2021 was a very exciting year for us: 2 product launches, our immunity launch, our launch of the PH-ILD, achieving double-digit revenue growth and patient growth during the year, very exciting. And really just -- as well as all the progress we made on our pipeline, which I think we're going to get into over the course of the next half hour or so. So it's -- really a very exciting year for us in '21. Turning to 2022, I think we're poised to have an even stronger year, more exciting year. So you may recall and investors may recall that last year, at the beginning of the year, we set a goal to double the number of Tyvaso patients from 3,000 to 6,000 by the end of 2022. So that's -- that continues to be a goal for us and we're tracking towards doing that. We were hoping to have an approval for our Tyvaso DPI product last fall. We've run into a couple of delays there. But we still feel good about where we are in that process and that we'll be able to secure approval for that product in the May time frame and be able to launch that into the second half of the year. And then like I said, we continue to make progress on enrolling in our 7 registration phase studies. So we have our TETON 1 study, which is looking at Tyvaso and IPF patients. TETON 2, which is a mere study of that in Europe. We have our PERFECT study, which is looking at Tyvaso patients with -- COPD patients with pulmonary hypertension. And we have our 2 ralinepag studies, our OUTCOME study and our CAPACITY study. And then our ex-vivo lung perfusion study, which we're hoping to wrap up this year and submit for registration. And then finally, our SAPPHIRE gene therapy study. So a busy year ahead of us, a lot of exciting things, and we're really looking forward to it.
Perfect. And I know the company has unveiled its 25x25 plan. Can you touch on this goal a little bit? How many patients are on United therapy right now? And what are kind of the key drivers for that growth? Is it all the indications that are approved right now? Or does some of those additional patient subsets play into that plan?
Sure. So our 25x25 goal is to have 25,000 patients on one of our therapies by the end of 2025. We ended 2021 -- I think we announced we're over 10,000 patients, so more than 40% of the way there. The growth is -- it's not just limited to our existing indications, existing products, although we still believe that we have a lot of growth potential with those existing indications and products. But with Tyvaso, like I said, we launched into PH-ILD last year with the INCREASE study. We think we have a lot of runway ahead of us there. I think the PERFECT study, the TETON studies, which we think will read out and launch towards the back end of the 2025 period will provide some additional patient growth, as well as DPI and its opportunity and potential to grow in WHO Group 1 as well as the other indications. On Orenitram, we're certainly continuing to leverage the FREEDOM-EV label, and some of that substudy data. We're very happy with the traction we made in the PAH community despite the fact that we launched this in the middle of a pandemic. But I think we still have an opportunity to continue to see some really strong growth there. And then even with Remodulin, which is our oldest product, we continue to make advances in both the delivery and the formulation of the drug, and particularly I'm talking about our RemoPro formulation, which is a pain-free version of Remodulin to be delivered via the Remunity Pump, which, again, we think we'll be able to launch that towards the back end of this 2025 -- between now and 2025. And then the Ralinepag studies I talked about and the ex-vivo lung perfusion service and being able to service these lungs and make more lungs available for transplant. So it's a combination of things that we currently have in our bag right now and some of these near-term studies that we expect to enroll and get approval for.
Perfect. Maybe we'll start with Tyvaso because the therapy has had such a great -- honestly, last couple of years since you released the PH-ILD data. But since maybe the expanded indication last April, how many patients with PH-ILD have been placed on Tyvaso? What's sort of the initial reception been? And what are the key kind of triggers for adoption over the next 12 months? Is it the CMS coverage decision? Is it the launch of DPI? Is there anything else that we're not thinking about?
Yes. I think the -- I would say the reception has been very good. I mean as -- I think you know and everybody knows up until we had Tyvaso approved last year through the INCREASE study, there really was no approved therapy for these very sick ILD patients that also develop pulmonary hypertension. So I think the fact that we now have an approved therapy for these patients is really exciting to physicians, and we continue to see that. In terms of the number of ILD patients, it's still a little messy in terms of really being able to understand which patients are WHO Group 1, which patients are WHO Group 3. I think that we'll get better clarity on that certainly after we get the Medicare approval and we get into kind of next year and I think doctors are a little bit clearer about designating the patient as a WHO Group 1 or WHO Group 3. So it's hard for me to know exactly how many truly have PH-ILD versus Group 1 PAH. But that being said, we've added -- we're about half -- at the end of the year, about halfway towards our goal of doubling the number of patients. And as I mentioned on our earnings call a couple of weeks ago, we actually -- despite the seasonality that we typically see in the fourth quarter, we actually had our strongest referral quarter for Tyvaso since we launched into PH-ILD. So really excited with the promise we're making there, and I think we will continue to progress over the course of the year. You touched on some of the things that I think could be accelerants for our growth, not only this year, but into the future, certainly getting CMS approval, which we expect between now and May will help. I think the DPI approval, when that comes will be another accelerator. And I think we still get to 6,000 even if that gets delayed for some reason. We don't expect it. But certainly, it's an accelerator. And then I think the third thing, which is just kind of the blocking and tackling that we've been doing since we launched, which is bringing these new ILD treaters online. We're still seeing a lot of the -- lot of the referrals or most of the referrals or prescriptions are coming in through the PAH clinics. But we do continue to make really good progress in terms of engagement and activating these ILD treaters and have really increased our prescriber base over the last 9 to 10 months.
Perfect. I know previously you mentioned that those ILD docs, there's just a lot more of them maybe than specialty PAH centers. I guess what sort of the thing that you can do, I guess, to better penetrate those ILD physicians? Is it do they not want to send to the right heart cath? Do they need to get used to identifying disease? Kind of where is the holdup, if there is a specific one?
Yes. I wouldn't -- I mean I wouldn't say that there's a hold up. Like I said, we're continuing to make traction there. I think the thing that I have to continue to remind myself is that things never move as fast as I want in this-- it's changed, it's different. So it takes a little bit of time. So -- I mean, just to give you a little bit of perspective. We've increased our prescriber base by about 25% since launch. So that's, I think, pretty good progress. And we're continuing to add to that every week. I think the things that we have to continue to educate and remind the physician is to screen early, go through -- if you suspect that you have pulmonary hypertension -- if the patient has pulmonary hypertension, do an echo. If the echo confirms that, then we need to refer it out and find somebody to do the right heart cath. And so there are physicians that have figured that out and found the resource for right heart cath. I think there are still physicians that are still trying to figure that out. And we're doing what we can do in a compliant way to help them find those resources so they can perform the right heart cath. So it's continuing to build. And again, over -- we're in this for the long haul. So it's kind of like what we saw when we got into PAH 25 years ago. It builds. And now we're -- now we have more than 10,000 patients. So I think we're going to see the same thing over time with PH-ILD.
And in terms of the patient numbers of those out there in the U.S. with PH-ILD, I know the company has recently said maybe 30,000 addressable patients. We do some consultant work along with this conference. That number came out to about 46,000 based on our surveys of physicians with kind of 20% of them saying it could be 90,000. Do we not know how many patients there are yet in the U.S.? Maybe back to some of your early diagnoses comments. And how big do you think this population truly could be?
Yes. It's -- I don't think we know for sure. If you look at the [ EPI ] data, it says it's anywhere from 15% to 85% of ILD patients. So it's a pretty broad range, which I think supports the range of numbers that you just mentioned. So with about 230,000 patients, 250,000 patients with ILD. If you take the low end of that, that's where you -- the 15%, that's where you get the 30,000. And that's really kind of what we've been working off of. The way you confirm a diagnosis of pulmonary hypertension is with the right heart cath. And as we were just talking about, most patients with ILD, even if the doctor suspects they have pulmonary hypertension, have not had a right heart cath because up until now there was no treatment. So there's really no point of doing the procedure because there's no treatment. So again, that will change. That is starting to change. We're continuing to see that change over the course of this year and into the next couple of years. And I think we'll probably get a better sense of what the true patient population is over that time.
Perfect. And maybe we'll jump over to the DPI specifically. As you mentioned, the approval for this has been slightly delayed a couple of times. First, with the open issue with one of the CMOs. I guess, first, has that been signed off on after you made the change in the resubmission? And then second, in regards to citizens petition, are you able to say kind of what additional information specifically the agency requested to address that and what you submitted?
Sure. So on the first part, on the analytical testing issue that was the -- I guess, behind the CRL that we received in October. As you know, we resubmitted at the end of the year. We believe addressing that issue. There's not been a sign off per se, but we've not had any questions from the agency on that. So we believe that's taken care of. But until we know for sure, I guess there's always some risk. But we've not had any questions come back on that one. As it relates to the citizens petition, there's not a whole lot more I think we want to say around that. We typically don't get into kind of our detailed interactions with the FDA. As we said on our earnings call, as the FDA was going through their review process, they asked for some information. It was clearly related to some of the issues in the citizens petition. And it looks like they're trying to kind of align their response to the citizens petition with our application. So we provided responses to their questions. They deemed our response to be a major amendment. They have a lot of, I think, discretion or latitude to deem something as a major amendment or not. And they gave us a -- said we're going to kick your PDUFA date out 3 months. So that's where we're at.
Perfect. And maybe just one more on that because I know you waited to submit the DPI until after the PH-ILD indication was approved for the nebulized version. Is the FDA essentially looking at this as we'll improve it as the same label for the nebulized version? Or are they looking at the 2 different patient populations differently in your perspective at all?
It's hard to tell. I don't have a clear sense of that.
Perfect. And then, hopefully, we do get approved and launched here. Kind of what are your expectations for the proportion of patients that would flip to a dry powder inhaler versus the nebulizer versus -- based on what you've heard from physicians and patients on the convenience factor?
Yes. So -- I mean this is another one where -- another product where there seems to be a lot of buzz, a lot of excitement around it because of -- because you said the convenience of having a device that you can fit in your pocket. It's 1 breath 4 times a day instead of 9 to 12 breaths 4 times a day. So I think when physicians and patients see it, they immediately fall in love with it. So I think that the uptake is going to be very strong. I mean, it will play out over a period of time. And we're obviously going to be pretty aggressive in promoting it. And for any patient that wants to flip over, they'll be able to do that. I think at the end of the day -- I said before that I think you're looking at somewhere around -- on the PAH side, somewhere around 60% to 70% of patients end up on DPI. I think that's right. I think there's going to be some that prefer the nebulizer for various reasons. On the PH-ILD side, I guess I'm not as sure where those percentages are going to play out. I think we're still trying to learn about the patient population there. There's some thinking that because these patients are so sick that the nebulizer may be easier for them to take Tyvaso than a DPI. But I'm sure that physicians are going to try it. And so we'll just see how that unfolds.
And we've heard from some of our docs that because of the titratability issues with -- sometimes with the oral prostacyclin agents, they may consider using a DPI ahead of an oral. Is there a perfect spot to use a prostacyclin in DPI? Do you think it could be kind of right after a PDE5 and ERA?
I think it could be. I think it's going to vary quite a bit. It's interesting. When we talk to pulmonologists, they're very familiar with DPIs. They love DPIs. They tend to be more in the camp of, "Yes, this is really convenient. The psychotropic profile is actually a little bit better than some of the orals. I would really think about starting my patient on this before going to an oral." Cardiologists, I think, are on the other side of the spectrum and they're probably on average going to lean more towards doing the orals first. So we'll see how it plays out. I think -- I do think at the end of the day, it allows us to grow the patient population in PAH. I know we talk often about the percentage of patients that refuse parenteral therapy or worse yet, die without even trying parenteral therapy. We do have a refusenik camp with inhaled therapy too. So about 20% to 30% of patients when presented with the current version of Tyvaso, just refuse because they don't want to deal with the perceived burdens of having to carry the nebulizer around. And so for those patients, this is going to be, I think -- I call this a no-brainer because it's so simple to use and in a much smaller profile.
Perfect. And you did mention the PERFECT study with PH COPD patients. Maybe what's sort of the data that got you excited about starting a trial in this patient population? And when might we be in a position to see data from that study?
Yes. So the PERFECT study, we started that at about the same time or pretty close to the same time that we started the INCREASE study. And it's work that came out of there in Waxman's lab, both studies actually in -- up in Boston. So what got us excited about it, well, first is the -- again, it's a quarter of a difference. You're looking at a patient population of about 100,000 patients in the U.S. and they don't -- and what we saw with PH-ILD, these PH-COPD patients don't have a treatment option. So again, big kind of virgin market for us. And we think in terms of the science that treprostinil has, multiple mechanisms of action in vitro, including vasodilatory, broncodilatory, antinflammatory, antiproliferative, antithrombotic, antifibrotic mechanisms. And we think that, that lends itself very well to treating this patient population. And then you couple that with the fact that we're doing -- we're delivering this versus -- with an inhaler versus a [ sasinic ] med, it means that the drug is only going to be delivered to the parts of the lung which are well aerated or ventilated. And so you don't -- you reduce the potential of this V/Q mismatch, which we thought was really important in the INCREASE study. I think that also applies here with PH-COPD.
Perfect. And in terms of when -- will we see data maybe in the 2023 time frame?
Yes. I mean we're not -- we haven't really given specific dates on that, but I would say, yes, '23,'24.
Okay. Sounds good. And in IPF, I know we saw some data from the PH-ILD study looking at patients that had fibrosis. I guess, what additional information outside of what you just mentioned around why you want to go into PH-COPD kind of inspired the move to IPF. And maybe same question, how is that trial enrolling? And I know you're expanding it ex-U.S. Any commentary you can provide?
Yes. So we've -- so the TETON 1 that I mentioned, which is a U.S.-centric trial or U.S. patient population, I mean, that one's up and running and enrolling. Again, we haven't really given dates on -- completion dates on that. TETON 2 is just starting or getting sites activated. It will start enrolling patients pretty soon. That's going to be in Europe, as I said earlier. The genesis of -- the background behind this is the FVC data that we saw in the INCREASE trial. That was an exploratory endpoint. And I think we were all pleasantly surprised and blown away at the improvement we saw in FVC. And so that led us logically to do the experiment and see if really we can make an impact and modify the underlying ILD in these patients. And so that was looking at the patients after -- I think it was at 24 weeks. This trial is a 52-week study, which is what the ILD docs typically want to see. They want to see out over a year or so. So we feel very good about that. I'll also say that some of the open-label extension data that we've seen now from the INCREASE trial, where these patients have gone out to 52 weeks, gives us even more confidence that this is a successful trial.
Perfect. And maybe we can flip to the Remodulin franchise. It obviously held up pretty well since the launch of IV generics. And now we also had a subcu generic launch in the third quarter of last year. How is the Remodulin franchise going? Do you expect any additional, I guess, impact from generics? And maybe why have you been so successful in preventing against that?
Yes. I think -- yes, I feel like we've been talking about Remodulin since I joined -- Remodulin and generics since I joined United Therapeutics, which was 11 years ago. So -- and I think we've always believed and we've had really a conviction that this is not going to be your typical generic product that just falls off a cliff once a generic comes on to the market because you're dealing with, as we talked about, really, really sick patients. The doctors, they've got their patient stable or at least not declining and they're going to be really, I think, reluctant to make switches to a generic, which, although it meets the bioequivalence, I think everybody knows this is -- it can vary, right? There's some variability in there. And I think there's a lot of brand loyalty to Remodulin, not to mention all of the investments that we're making to continue to improve the experience for patients. And then finally, there just hasn't been a lot of payer pushback up until now. So I think that's been a big piece of it as well. So the business continues to be really resilient even in the face of now an IV and a subcu competitor. We do think that we have growth ahead of us over the long term with Remodulin. I mentioned our ReoPro, our prodrug. I think that could be a game changer for these patients. The other thing that we're looking at is different studies to look at early and aggressive upfront use of Remodulin and then potentially flipping them over to Orenitram. There's been a lot of literature that's been published over the last few years showing that if you're able to get the patients mean pulmonary arterial pressure below 40 millimeters of mercury that the long-term survival goes out to 20, 25 years. And so that is a sort of a treatment goal, is something that's gaining some traction. We're doing a study -- like I said, we're doing a study on this called the ARTISAN study. And so I think that bodes very well for the future parenteral therapy as well as Orenitram frankly.
And you mentioned earlier the launch of Remunity. How has the initial uptake been? And I know there are some modifications made to the device and the product. How is that sort of reimplementation going?
Yes. So we launched it last spring. I'd say that the reception and the excitement around it was really good. I think the patients that went on the pump really enjoyed it. It's much smaller and you can shower in it. You can swim with it. It's 21st century technology. And there's a lot of really cool features about the pump that the patients really love. What we did see when we rolled it out is -- I think we described this as like the Tesla pump. It's like very, very high tech. It has very sensitive alarms it turns out. And so some of these alarms were going off and they were just overly sensitive. And it was creating, I would say, a little bit of a nuance among the patients. And so we had a lot of complaints coming in about: "This alarm is going off. What does this mean?" And so we decided to investigate that. We pressed pause on adding new patients and work with our manufacturing partner, development partner, Ecosystems, to tweak the software and the settings in the alarms. So that work went on through the fall. And then we did some testing of those -- of the new software, didn't see any issues. And so now we're, as of this week, relaunching and putting it back out on the market. So I think, again, the physicians and the patients are going to be really excited about it. Despite these nuisances on the alarms, very few patients opted to discontinue and go back to the other pump. And that's how much they really like the pump. So we're really excited about having it back out on the market and we're expecting a pretty good uptake as we move through the balance of the year.
Perfect. And maybe we can jump over to transplant in the last few minutes. We have obviously seen updates from the porcine heart transplant patient and then also the news on kidney. So maybe what is United's strategy to help prevent against acute and chronic rejection through xenotransplant? And maybe when could an official IND move forward?
Yes. So for the kidney work that was done at NYU, we use what's called a U [indiscernible] kidney. So we use for -- [indiscernible] at United Therapeutics. And that pig kidney, the donor pig had one genetic modification, which was the knockout of the alpha-gal gene. And the kidney was transplanted with a portion of the pig's thymus. And that was to familiarize the human immune system to the porcine kidney. For the UHeart and the UKidney transplants at Maryland and UAB, respectively, both of those donor pigs had 10 genetic modifications. So they're knocking out 4 genes and then adding in or knocking in 6 human genes to help improve the tolerability and the risk of not having to be rejected.
And then -- sorry. Go ahead.
Yes. So I think in terms of kind of what's next. We're continuing to work with our academic collaborators to gather data through preclinical work in animal models and continuing to have conversations and dialogues with the FDA on a clinical and regulatory path. So I don't have anything -- I don't have a specific time frame, but we do -- we're optimistic we're going to be able to move genome program into the clinic in the near term.
And then maybe how is the company thinking about investment in transplant versus some of the other more traditional therapeutic approaches? And how might this ramp over time?
Yes. I mean, fortunately -- I mean we have a really strong balance sheet. So it's not really a question of either/or. We feel like we have enough ammunition to do both. I think as it relates to the order in manufacturing, we don't want to get over our sleeves. We want to make sure that we're able to prove out the science. And so that's really job #1, is proving out the science before we make commitment -- significant commitments of capital towards, say, manufacturing facilities. We are in the process of constructing a clinical scale -- it doesn't need a pathogen-free facility. And that's not a large commitment of capital, but that will allow us to generate the pigs or grow the pigs to support the clinical trial. And then once the science proves out, at that point, that's when you're looking at really, I think, a significant deployment of CapEx to support the manufacturing efforts.
Perfect. And then maybe back on the oral prostacyclin franchise. We have 2 studies for ralinepag going on right now. Do you need both of these to file? How are you thinking about the strategy going forward? And maybe how will ralinepag play with Orenitram and potentially a prodrug formulation if that moves forward as well?
Yes. So we don't necessarily need both. So the regulatory path there is -- so we have the 2 studies. We have the OUTCOME study, which is your typical clinical worsening -- kind of clinical worsening study. We have the CAPACITY study, which is an exercise study. So we can file on each of these individually if the p-value is less than 0.01. Or we can file together with a p-value of less than 0.05. So we will just kind of see how the trial plays out, and obviously, that will inform us in terms of kind of our regulatory approval path. In terms of how this plays with Orenitram and RemoPro, it's another treatment option for patients. So we believe that ralinepag is a sort of a best-in-class better version of selexipag. There's a few thousand patients on selexipag. And clearly, there is a place in the market for an IP receptor agonist. And so we want to be able to compete in that market. And our approach all along has been we want to give patients options. So wherever they are in their journey, in their pulmonary hypertension journey, there's a product from United Therapeutics that can help them.
Perfect. And maybe just in the last minute -- I know we're at the time. But you did mention the particularly strong balance sheet that United has. I guess how are you thinking about BD? Is there any area that you would like to move into outside of internal investment?
I mean, we have a very active BD desk. We constantly look and screen -- look at and screen various opportunities. But we have – it is a pretty high bar for us to pull the trigger on something for a whole host of reasons. The things we're most interested in are going to be the things that complement and play to our strengths, right, our core competencies. So we look at products and platforms that focus on kidney, lung and cardiovascular diseases.
Perfect. And with that, we're out of time. So thank you very much for taking the time to speak with us. And thanks to all the investors who listened on the line.
Thanks, Joe.
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