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argenx SE (ARGX) Earnings Call Transcript

July 27, 2026

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Operator operator
#1

The press release can be found on our website, along with a slide presentation that you can follow as you listen to the call. I'm joined today by Karen Matthew, Chief Executive Officer; -- are Lemon, Vice President of Corporate Development and Strategy; and Peter Ulrich, Chief Scientific Officer. Paul Gubitz, our Chief Financial Officer, will be available during the Q&A. Before we begin on Slide 2, I'd like to remind you that forward-looking statements may be presented during this call. These may include statements about our future expectations, clinical development, regulatory time lines, the potential success of our product candidates, financial projections, upcoming milestones and the anticipated benefits and timing of transaction. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these statements. Argenx is not under any obligation to update statements regarding the future or to conform these statements in relation to actual results unless required by law. I'll now turn it over to Karen.

Karen Massey executive
#2

Thank you, Beth, and welcome, everyone. I'll begin on Slide 3. We -- today's announcement is an important milestone for IGEC and an important investment in our next chapter of growth. It's also an important day for patients and our commitment to raise expectations of water treatment can deliver in autoimmune disease. We have entered into an agreement to acquire Forte Biosciences, adding SB 102 of first-in-class anti-CD122 antibody to our immunology pipeline. SB12 has demonstrated clinical prudent concepts in diseases that have lacked meaningful innovation like vitiligo and Celiac disease, and we believe there is broader potential across multiple autoimmune diseases. Before I talk about our conviction in FB102 and recognize the impressive work the team has done to advance the program through proof of concept. I want to start with our strategy. Our Vision 2030 strategy is well defined and on track. Last week, we shared our second quarter results. Bigard continues to reach more patients around the world as we progress towards our goal of treating 50,000 patients. With the approval of discard and sero-negative GMG, we now have 4 labeled indications on our path to 10% by 2030. And we continue investing in our innovation engine to advance 5 new molecules to late stage that we believe can become the future growth drivers of argenx and shape the future of immunology. It is the success of this strategy that makes today possible. Over the last several years, we have built an incredible foundation pioneering the SCR in cost. And we've demonstrated that we can translate promising biology into transformational outcomes and new treatment paradigms for patients. And now we have an opportunity and a responsibility to build on that foundation. Our ambition has never been limited to a single molecule, a single target or a single therapeutic area. Our ambition is to become the leading immunology innovator, building a pipeline across multiple targets and multiple dimensions of the immune system. The acquisition of Forte fits directly into this ambition and is a continuation of a strategy that has guided argenx from the beginning. Stay close to great science, to do the best ideas wherever they originate and build conviction conviction through data, all to bring immunology breakthrough to patients. This principle helps create argenx and this principle brought us to 4 Biosciences. It will continue to guide how we build our next chapter, Slide 4. At argenx, innovation has never been limited to what happens inside our own walls. We pursue the best science through our immunology innovation program and partnering with leading academic collaborators and research institutions and with biotech partners through partnering deals, strategic investments and now an acquisition. This is how our pipeline has been built and it's proof that breakthrough innovation does not happen alone. It is how we discovered and developed [indiscernible]. It's how we're advancing in passive bad and the rest of our pipeline. And it's also how we came to know about SB102. We've been following closely CD122 biology for several years and this year in April, we made a strategic investment in based on our belief in the science. More recently, with the positive Phase Ib data in vitiligo, we saw the opportunity to bring FB102 into our argenx. The [indiscernible] team has done an impressive job in advancing this program. We believe great science and great people go hand-in-hand, which is why we are excited not only about B02 but also to continuing to work alongside the team that helps bring the asset thus far. So with that, I'll turn the call over to Arjan to discuss the transaction and why Forte and SB 102 are such a natural fit for argenx. Arjen?

Arjen Lemmen executive
#3

Thank you, Karen. Slide 5. When we think about bringing in new pipeline programs, we always start with the same questions. Is the biology and mechanism of action differentiated? Is there evidence that it can translate into meaningful benefits for patients and can Argenx help realize its full potential. AB-102 stands out across all these dimensions. What initially attracted us was the combination of novel biology, a targeted mechanism and early clinical validation. We're also attracted to the broader potential of the program to be a pipeline in the product opportunity across CitiGo, celiac disease, alopecia areata and other autoimmune diseases. Just as important is why we believe FB102 is a strong fit for argenx. . First, AB-102 complements our existing portfolio. Our strategy as an immunology leader is to play across important pathways of the immune system. For example, we have cartigumod and ARGENX-121 in the antibody compartment targeting FcRn and IGA and apacepobroad addressing complement activation at 2. AB-102 as another important dimension, targeting pathogenic T cell and NK cells through activity through CD-122 biology while preserving beneficial regulatory T cells. Second, we believe this is the right moment to bring the molecule into argenx. The program has generated clinical validation in 2 indications, while still leaving meaningful opportunity for us to shape development strategy, expand the indication footprint and built the full value of the program alongside [indiscernible] 8. And third, we believe argenx is uniquely positioned to help realize the full potential of [indiscernible]. We are specifically organized to execute and maximize pipeline in the product development programs. We have an established product presentation, playbook and strategy and we have demonstrated that when we enter underserved markets, we established leadership and shape treatment paradigms. We believe these capabilities can expand the impact of FP102 for patients and maximize the opportunity. Slide 6. Turning briefly to the transaction. Under the terms of the agreement, Argenx will commence a cash tender offer to acquire all outstanding shares of Forte or $77 per share representing a total equity value of approximately $2.2 billion. The transaction is not subject to a financing condition and will be funded entirely from cash on hand. The Board of Directors of both companies have approved the transaction, and we expect it to close in the third quarter, subject to customary closing conditions. This transaction also reflects how we think about investing for the future. We've always taken a disciplined approach to capital allocation and our priorities remain clear. First, we continue to maximize the opportunity for [indiscernible] and build the future of FcRn medicine. Second, we continue to advance our broad and growing pipeline. And third, we continue to pursue differentiated biology wherever we find it. to strengthen our future growth trajectory and expand what we can deliver for patients. Ultimately, this transaction reflects the simple belief that science should set the base for investment, where we find an opportunity of raising the bar for patients and strengthening the future of Hergenx, we have the flexibility and the conviction to act. We found this with Forte. Now I'll turn the call to Peter to walk through the science behind the program.

Peter Ulrichts executive
#4

Thank you, Adan. Slide 7 building on what you said, our interest in FB 102 begins with the biology and has anti-bot engineers with the quality of the molecule. AB-102 is uniquely designed to inhibit L2 and IL-15 mediated activation and proliferation of pathogenic T cells and NK cells are sparing beneficial IL-2 signaling on regulatory T cell. The scientific question we seek to answer is whether we can reduce the activity of the cells driving diseases like filial and stack disease while preventing the immune preserving the immune regulation we want to keep. argenx, our goal is not brought immunesuppression. Our goal is to target the underlying drivers of disease in a precise way. 102 gives us the potential to do that to a differentiated approach, leveraging CD122 biology. The clinical data that generated today have been important in building our conviction on FB 102. Let me briefly walk through those data before turning the call back to Karen slides. First on vitiligo. In the study, FB-102 demonstrate a rapid and sustained benefit with statistical significance reached by day 64. Patients continue to show improvement through 24 12 weeks after the last dose. On the slide, I would like to show the week 24 result. 29.6% means FR improvement for FB 102 compared with 7.9% for placebo. These data provides early evidence that targeting CD122 may address the underlying immune activity and reinforce our conviction in the mechanism. Celiac disease provides another example. This is a systemic autoimmune disease driven by T cell mediated response to gluten. VR-102 has a strong mechanistic rationale in [indiscernible] disease because CD122 blockade simultaneously suppresses IL-15 driven epithelial damage and an IL-2 driven gluten specific T cell activation. The slide shows that the Phase Ib study met the primary BCL endpoints and showed fewer gluten induced GI symptoms versus placebo. 102 is now being studied in a Phase II trial in pediacdisease, which will read out before the end of the year. Together, the biology, the translational evidence and the clinical data provides a strong foundation for continued development of FP 102. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Garo.

Karen Massey executive
#5

Thank you, Peter. Slide 9. The biology Peter described is what first attracted us to FB 102. The opportunity to bring that science to patients at scale is what excites us about the future. Bedge has too often been misunderstood as a cosmetic condition. It is not. It is a chronic autoimmune disease driven by pathogenic immune activity. Current treatment is limited to a cell population and many patients do not achieve complete or lasting resegmentation with these options. More than 2 million people in the United States live with [indiscernible] while awareness of Vitiligo has increased and new therapies have emerged, outcomes are far from where patients want them to be. Celiac disease represents another significant opportunity. More than 2.5 million in the patients in the United States lipophilic, yet they have no approved treatments beyond a strict gluten-free diet. Even with careful management, many patients continue to experience symptoms and anxiety around accidential exposure. In addition, there are long-term complications beyond the digestive tract and an increased chance of other autoimmune diseases. We believe these are diseases where argenx can play an important role. We have demonstrated with Biggar that we can successfully establish leadership and transform on the served market. so that patients can spend less time managing their disease and more time living their lives. That experience gives us confidence not only in the opportunity ahead for SB 102, but in our ability to execute expand its potential and maximize impact for patients. Slide 10. Before we start Q&A, I want to leave you with 3 key takeaways. First, this transaction is firmly aligned with our strategy. Vision 2030 is on track. Our conviction in Zipcar and our existing pipeline remains unchanged. We builds on that foundation and supports our ambition to be a leading immunology innovator. Second, we believe SB-102 is the right molecule. It combines novel biology, a targeted mechanism and an elegant design with potential across multiple autoimmune diseases. Third, these are serious systemic diseases where patients need better outcomes and where agents can help shape the future standard of care, just as we have done with this car. Forte has advanced impressive science. Our role is to build on that foundation and work alongside the team as we advance FB 102. This is an important milestone for argenx, supporting and most importantly, for patients. Thank you for joining us today. And operator, we'll now open for questions.

Operator operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Yatin Suneja with Guggenheim Securities.

Yatin Suneja analyst
#7

One congratulations on bringing this important mechanism into your portfolio. Always good to see 1 of your companies getting acquired by another company that you cover -- so the question that I have is mostly around the indication. So if you could frame for us how much weight you are putting on the areas where we're already seeing proof of concept like vitiligo, EoE and CDC. What about other areas that are opening up with this mechanism, whether it's opiate or to interact that other companies are going after? And how much visibility you had into some of the ongoing study that Fotis running. So just basically frame to us the investment you're going to make across the indications that might open up in this indication?

Karen Massey executive
#8

Yes. Thank you for the question. And I like starting with that question. because I think it really makes us 0 in on the value that FB-102 can bring to a broad range of patients and very much aligned with our mission. So One of the things the parts of genic strategy and one of the reasons that this looks like an argenx molecule is that it is a pipeline in a product molecule. We like molecules where we can pursue multiple indications, One of the reasons for that is that it gives us multiple paths to success and multiple parts to growth. With this molecule when we looked at it, one of the key ungating factors for us was the recent data -- Phase Ib data in Vitiligo and obviously, also the data -- the Phase II data in [indiscernible]. So those will be 2 of the lead indications. But exactly as you say, we think that this target has the opportunity to open up more indications beyond that. We're not in a position today to share what those indications would be. But what we can say is that we'll take that same approach with SB 102 that we've taken with our other pipeline product assets like [indiscernible] and we have a very clear and disciplined approach to indication selection. So we always start with a strong biology rationale, and we like to see indications of a derisked with preclinical or translational data -- we like it when there's a clear development and regulatory pathway and always use that as a gate. And last but not least, there needs to be a high unmet need and a high commercial potential. So over the coming months, we'll be looking at a broad range of indications for SB 102 through these lenses. But as you point out, I think what we'll find is that there's opportunity beyond Celiac and Vitalia for 102. Thanks for the question.

Operator operator
#9

Our next question will come from Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America.

Tazeen Ahmad analyst
#10

Karen, I just wanted to get your thoughts about what you mentioned about Vitiligo. So Insight does have a product available currently. They have had a bit of a slower-than-expected launch into that space. Is it your view that it still because it's viewed as a cosmetic indication of the post to something that needs medical treatment? And then can you just remind us what specifically gives you confidence at this juncture that this could be differentiated from what's already out there? .

Karen Massey executive
#11

Yes. Thanks for the question, Tazeen. I will just touch on it. I mentioned it in the script, We do not believe that Vitiligo is simply a cosmetic skin condition. It is a chronic and systemic autoimmune disease. And I think the opportunity ahead is to make that clear to the health care system and to treating physicians. What we see is that Vitiligo impacts quality of life especially where there's significant body area that's impacted and when symptoms like to be photosensitivity are involved. So we think that there is a clear opportunity to elevate expectations for patients with that condition. And I think we have some learnings for how we've done that from elevating expectations and transforming markets in some areas we did got. But perhaps, Peter, you could talk to what -- the strength of the data that we see in vitiligo?

Peter Ulrichts executive
#12

Yes. First and foremost, of course, there is the Ib data, which shows the clear effect. And I think also from a biology point of view, the molecule is hitting 2 parts, which are well established to be active in vitiligo, the IL-15 arm and the IL-2. So that combined with favorable safety profile, which we've seen to date, which we obviously need to confirm, give us some differentiated angles as compared to what's out there. And that's why we are quite bullish on this biology.

Operator operator
#13

Our next question will come from Derek Archila with Wells Fargo.

Derek Archila analyst
#14

Congrats on the transaction. Just wondering if you could discuss your view on FB 102's rationale and opportunity in alopecia. I was wondering if reviewing the blinded data from the ongoing trial as part of the diligence process.

Karen Massey executive
#15

Yes. Look, for -- in terms of when we're looking at SB102, we had the opportunity, obviously, to look at all of the data, the public data -- and we look forward to seeing the alopecia data that for later this year that will also inform our position -- and as part of diligence, we were able to work closely with the Forte team. I would say, while I have the opportunity right now that we are very impressed with the Forte team, the quality of the science, the quality of the execution and how they're bringing this asset forward. And so we were able to look at all of the standard types of data that you can look at through due diligence, and that really gave us confidence in this asset and in the data package behind it. Thank you.

Operator operator
#16

Our next question will come from Yaron Werber with TD Cowen.

Yaron Werber analyst
#17

Yes. Congrats on really a terrific deal based on really good data. especially given this is your first deal. So maybe, Karen, for you, the ILIAD data, Phase II data is expected to come pretty soon. The Phase Ib as noted, was really positive. There's going to be even more of a gluten challenge in this Phase II? Does the potential to even show more outsized effect. Can you maybe frame kind of your expectations for this data? And maybe give us a little bit of a sense, how big do you think Silia gives us an indication?

Karen Massey executive
#18

Yes. Thanks for the question. We're looking forward to seeing the CLIA data as well. Obviously, with the Phase Ib proof of biology we have confidence going into the data, but you're always turning a data card. And I think it's important that we note that this is a Phase II study. So Phase II study, they are all a learning study. So what we'll be looking for alongside the forte is to make sure that we can get really good insight into cilia, including, as you said, with the gluten challenge and the impact of FB-102 so that we can design a strong Phase III development program moving forward. And I think the way that the clinical trial is designed the insights that we'll get, including the primary and secondary endpoints, will give us the information that we need to design a good Phase III clinical development program. So let's wait and see. The data from that program will be coming in Q4 and when we turn that data card, we'll be able to share those top line results and what the future program looks like. Thank you.

Operator operator
#19

Our next question will come from Gavin Clark-Gartner with Evercore.

Gavin Clark-Gartner analyst
#20

Congrats on the deal. So you definitely talked through the pipeline in a potential in a lot of detail. if you were to pick 1 indication where you see the largest commercial opportunity, what would that be? Just from an investor point of view, I think it's Celiac at the moment. And I'm curious if you share that perspective.

Karen Massey executive
#21

Yes. I think one of the strengths of this molecule is that it is a pipeline in a product. And what I would say is that we see the opportunity from multiple blockbuster indications. And it's one of the reasons that we like this molecule is that we have multiple paths to success with -- across the indications. So -- like you, we're certainly looking forward to the iliac data, but I wouldn't underestimate the opportunity in vitiligo and some of those other indications as well.

Operator operator
#22

Our next question will come from Samantha Semenkow with Citi.

Samantha Semenkow analyst
#23

Congratulations on the deal. I wanted to ask just about these indications being significantly larger than the typical rare disease indications that you've gone off here for GiftCard and some of your other molecules. Just how are you thinking about evolving the commercial engine to really work into your playbook for building these meaningful indication?

Karen Massey executive
#24

Yes. Thanks for the question. It's an important part of our consideration when we were thinking about these indications. I mean we do see these indications as very genic like indications. They are severe autoimmune conditions and there is significant unmet need. But as you say, we will need to continue to augment our commercialization capabilities. I think we've built a strong commercialization engine, and we continue to build that we've got -- of course, we'll start a pending positive data with Sjogren's disease, for example, will start entering larger markets with FCR as well. I think the key to that will be to continue on the path that we've been launching our medicines on with our commercial engine that's focused on a patient-centric approach. So what's going to be really important here is making sure that we are empowering patients to expect and to ask more from their medicines. And that's something we already do with Bidkar very actively. The second piece that will be important is continued evidence generation even post approval or post launch. These are markets that need to be built and where the real world evidence needs to be generated to [indiscernible] the impact of expanding treatment and expanding treatment with biologics. And we have experience also with that most recently in MG, expanding, for example, into ocular MG. And last but not least, I think in these markets, proven payer execution will be key. And what we've seen is that that's a core capability here at argenx and we think that we can redeploy that capability indication by indication with SB102 as well. So there's a long way to go before we get to commercialization of this asset, but we think we're well positioned and have the commercialization capabilities to do it.

Operator operator
#25

Your next question will come from Akash Tewari with Jeffries.

Akash Tewari analyst
#26

So for Vitiligo, what's your confidence 102 that data holds up in a larger data set, particularly for patients with less spatial involvement? And will those under 0.75 patients be excluded from your further trials? And then can you talk about the delta between the protocol-defined versus ITT data and what imputation method you're going to be using in your further studies? And then finally, did Sport measure total Viag area scoring, not just spatial -- and if so, what did that data look like? .

Operator operator
#27

Yes. Thanks for the question. So what I will say is the call today, we're focused on the -- our initial insights on the program. And what we'll be working on over the next couple of months is going much deeper with Forte and also being able to define the program in the future. So we'll refrain from commenting on all of the detailed questions that you have. But maybe, Peter, you could share why you have confidence in [indiscernible] and what you see the benefit of the program.

Peter Ulrichts executive
#28

Yes. Again, I think the biology fits nicely with the pathophysiology of BT ligand to comment we have at least 1 element on your question, indeed, you do see related activity at the high end of the disease severity. I think what we're going to do now is indeed the deep dive in all these data and define what potential next steps could be, including the question on which patients to include yes or no in future counts.

Operator operator
#29

Your next question will come from Alex Thompson with Stifel.

Alexander Thompson analyst
#30

Congrats on the deal. Maybe another question for Peter. Could you talk a little bit about your confidence in the therapeutic index here with sort of the blockade of the effector and natural killer cell activity and that were maybe out of the woods for infection risk at this point? .

Peter Ulrichts executive
#31

I think that is indeed a concern of the biology of targeting a broad targeting of NK cells and some of the T cells. I think first and foremost, based on the current exposure which is 3 months, we don't see any increase in infectious risk. So far, the safety profile looks good. Secondly, it is not a total NK cell depletion and a specific subset of and cells, which are depleted with this mode of action, which gives also some confidence on the safety element. Obviously, we need to see longer certain treatment data to fully explore the benefit profile of this molecule. Thank you for the question.

Operator operator
#32

Our next question will come from the line of Suzanne van Voorthuizen with Kempen. -- muted, free go ahead. Well, we'll then later. Our next question will come from Matt Phipps with William Blair.

Matthew Phipps analyst
#33

Congrats on the deal. There was a mining data at the recent study for investigator dermatology conference with an IL-15 antibody, showing a lot of benefit when combined with UVB and bile patients. sign that you would look to explore. Just curious if you're familiar with that data. .

Karen Massey executive
#34

Yes. I'll let Peter comment on the data. But I think in general, what you bring up is something interesting in the immunology space, which is combination therapy. And certainly, we haven't started down that path yet, given where we are with 102 -- but as you know, it's a key and core part of our strategy in -- with the rest of our pipeline and I think an area of -- that will continue to emerge of importance in the future. But Peter, I don't know if you want to comment on...

Peter Ulrichts executive
#35

Yes, I think we obviously are also ahead of these data and is an element which we are considering or will be considering when drafting plans for the next phases of clinical development.

Operator operator
#36

Our next question will come from Douglas Toll with H.C. Wainright.

Douglas Tsao analyst
#37

Just -- maybe as a follow-up to Matthew's question in terms of this representing a little bit of a shift for the company in terms of its focus on sort of more common prevalent diseases than orphan indications. I guess I'm just curious, is that going to be reflected in the business development strategy and how you're prioritizing things? Or is it going to still be sort of through a lens of biology? .

Karen Massey executive
#38

Yes. Thanks for the question, and I'll let [indiscernible] comment in a moment. But I would say at the highest level, our strategy, full building our pipeline and for becoming an immunology -- a leading immunology innovator is to focus on novel biology in areas of high unmet need and our capital allocation priority internal as well as business development follow that strategy. But Ari, maybe you want to talk in a little more detail about how we think about business development within that context.

Arjen Lemmen executive
#39

Yes, absolutely. So partnering has been a fundamental tool in how we've built our pipeline today. It's how the immunology innovation program works. And we've consistently done that around biology with academic institutions and other biotech companies. I think this represents an ability to also do that at a later stage. And ultimately, our business development strategy will be tailored for the target space for the molecule for its stage of development to do the right thing to augment our Vision 2030 objectives. .

Karen Massey executive
#40

And maybe the last thing to add is that what we do like is with these assets is being able to put, let's say, the argenx fingerprint on them. We think we have a differentiated capability in developing these pipeline in the product assets our product presentation label, for example, how we go through indication selection, sequencing and so assets that are early enough in their development that we can still put our fingerprints on them. I think, is an important component to the strategy. Thanks.

Operator operator
#41

Our next question will come from Sean Laaman with Morgan Stanley.

Sean Laaman analyst
#42

Hope everyone is well. Karen, strategically or maybe sizing, what role do you expect CD122 biology to play relative to FcRn complement and your other pipeline franchises?

Karen Massey executive
#43

Yes. I mean I think what we're building is a broad immunology portfolio, as you say, that is sort of where we have assets across different compartments of the immunology system. -- or the immune system, I should say. And Peter, maybe you want to talk about how you see the strategy of covering different immune targets as we develop our topline.

Peter Ulrichts executive
#44

Yes, I think what we like is first-in-class biology on key elements of the immune system. So with FcRn were tackling the auto antibodies with Empasipribat were hitting the complement system are with one to one is the IGA element. I think FB-102 gives us the opportunity to tackle T cell, pathogenic T cell biology, pathogenic NK cell biology with this molecule. So it really fits that immune portfolio approach which we are taking and which we continue to build.

Operator operator
#45

Sure. Our next question will come from Thomas Smith with Leerink Partners.

Brian Conley analyst
#46

This is Brian on for Tom. Just wondering if the team can comment or elaborate on their confidence in the potential regulatory path in Silia, given there are currently no FDA-approved treatments.

Karen Massey executive
#47

Yes. And certainly, when I was talking earlier about the fact that we like to focus on novel biology and areas of ply unmet need navigating these types of regulatory situations is not new to us. And I think something that we've demonstrated we can navigate in the past. Maybe, Ian, you want to talk to some of the due diligence and what we learned around the potboiliax.

Arjen Lemmen executive
#48

Yes. Like I said, this really starts with the Phase Ib data and the conviction that we have from there, you can start to think about different patient populations and a way forward. I think at this stage, for Celiac. The next step will really be for the Phase II data card to turn. And from there, we will set the right Phase III plan forward. .

Operator operator
#49

Our next question will come from Danielle Brill with Truist.

Danielle Brill Bongero analyst
#50

Congrats on deletion -- maybe a more specific follow-up to earlier question, just wondering what specifically makes SP 102 differentiated in your view versus other molecules in the pipeline. Are there meaningful differences in the magnitude of CD122 blockade or any other mechanistic attributes that support a best-in-class profile.

Karen Massey executive
#51

Yes, certainly, I'll hand over to Peter to comment on this. But 1 thing that we do see is differentiated that is important is that it's on track to be first in class. And we know how important that is when launching medicines into areas of high unmet need in competitive spaces. But the potential for best-in-class Peter.

Peter Ulrichts executive
#52

Yes, they're tiny based on some in vitro data, but also, of course, as Karen indicated, the clinical data gives us confidence on the potency of the molecule.

Operator operator
#53

Our next question will come from Sophia Graff with JPMorgan.

Sophia Graeff Buhl Nielsen analyst
#54

one on route of administration. So we've seen Argenx be very successful in innovating on route administration with this card. -- how important was the possibility of similar innovation for FB 102 in terms of the decision to acquire that asset? And how important do you see this innovation given the development of oral JAKs in Vitiligo.

Karen Massey executive
#55

Yes. Certainly, when we were looking at this asset and also at what GenX could bring to this asset, the question of product presentation comes to the forefront. So I think what we saw in SB 102 was an asset that's complementary to our immunology portfolio but also an aspect where I mentioned earlier, we can put our fingerprints on the development and leverage the experience that we've had with tiso in really maximizing the value of the asset. And as you say, 1 of those places is through product presentation. So I think with this got, we've seen the playbook of launching with very quickly being able to bring a subcutaneous, a prefilled syringe. Next year, we're launching auto-injector. And you can imagine that we have the opportunity to take that same playbook and apply [indiscernible] which will be important, especially in these autoimmune conditions in larger patient population.

Operator operator
#56

Our next question will come from Victor Flock with BNP Paribas.

Victor Floch analyst
#57

Congrats on the teaser. Maybe just a quick follow-up on the addressable population for celiac disease. So should we assume that it will be limited to the patient nonresponsive to gluten-free diet? Or are you anticipating that at some point, you should be able to bring that product to maybe earlier line patients?

Karen Massey executive
#58

Yes. It's too early to comment specifically on the clinical development program. But certainly, what you can look at is the approach that we've taken in the -- with other indications in the past as a model. And so what I would think about, for example, in MG, where we started with a clearly defined patient population in the ACHR positive. We were able to, over time, generate the evidence and expand that population. Now we'll have to make this strategy specific to each of the indications that we look at for 102. But with the different patient populations within cilia, you can imagine that there could be different ways so we could break down the patient population and align the clinical development program beyond that. But we'll do that work over the next couple of months, and we'll share when it's ready. Thanks, Victor.

Operator operator
#59

Our next question will come from Luca Issi as with RBC.

Luca Issi analyst
#60

This is a Loncongrats on closing such an amazing deal. This is a follow-up on indications action and CCD mechanism as strong clinical proof of concept in select diseases and with IGO as we've seen. But how broadly do you think this data read through to the other disclosed indications like alopecia areata and type 1 diabetes and your conviction in the rationale for doing after these 2 indications. Any thoughts there much appreciated.

Karen Massey executive
#61

Yes, certainly, maybe I can hand over to Peter to comment on that.

Peter Ulrichts executive
#62

Yes. And on pet, I think there is 15 data out there showing that angle is definitely involved in the disease. -- for type 1 diabetes, there's preclinical data sets out there. Obviously, I think that the work we are going to start now with the 1b alopecia data how good are they? And what is then the next step is 1 element from type 1 diabetes. As for other potential automate indications, we are going to, for the same playbook as we always do look into biologics as none then, okay, what is the pot towards approval there? How does it look like? And is there indeed an unmet rate.

Operator operator
#63

Your next question will come from Andy Chan with Wolfe.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#64

This is Jason picking up for Andy. I just wanted to ask if you guys have done any evaluation of FB-102 against other CD122 programs, maybe like Trac, for example? And what do you think differentiates our safety efficacy and breecervation? And do you have any confidence that FE-102 will hold against their cohort 2 and CEB for the Phase Ib data in terms of and healing capability for CD122 targets?

Karen Massey executive
#65

Yes, Thanks for the question. So when we look at assets and when we assess them, including SB 102, we're looking across a few different parameters. One of them is, do we think that there's a path to a best-in-class asset. And that best-in-class asset can be defined by what do we see as the mechanism of action and the design of the molecule. I think you heard from Peter earlier, -- we see this as an elegant design and a very elegant mechanism of action. And the design of the molecule was certainly important to us as we selected it. But then, of course, you need to prove that out with clinical data. And so we see the strongest clinical derisking data for SB102. So of course, we have the vitiligo data as well as the CLIA data -- and when you look into that, when you look at the efficacy that we've seen, when you look at the safety that Peter spoke to early, we think that we have the potential for a best-in-class asset here. Of course, what contributes to developing a best-in-class asset is, in fact, how you develop that asset. What are the indications you select in what order? How do you -- in what sequence, how do you develop things like the product presentations that you'll bring to market and I think that's where we have the opportunity to really accelerate this asset and put the argenx fingerprints on it to bring our best-in-class assets to market. The last thing that I'll say that was compelling to us and that I think is important, and I've mentioned a few times, that this is a first-in-class asset. So we'll be acting with urgency because we see that patients are waiting, and we want to bring FB-10 to those patients as quickly as possible.

Operator operator
#66

For our next question, we'll return to the line of Suzanne van Voorthuizen from Kempen.

Suzanne van Voorthuizen analyst
#67

Can hear me now. We can --. Okay. Perfect. Sorry about that. Congrats I maybe last, but hopefully not least, -- can you elaborate a bit more on the differentiation of FB 102 that you see versus other molecules that are pursuing the same or similar mechanism of action. You mentioned an elegant design. But is it exactly about the molecule that you find holding potential for best-in-class potential? .

Karen Massey executive
#68

Yes. Thank you. As I mentioned earlier, there are a number of different reasons that we think this could be a best-in-class asset. But Peter, maybe you want to speak about the elegant design in titin.

Peter Ulrichts executive
#69

I think that is -- is hitting hard on the IL-2 and IL-15 signaling is faring the TRx. I think that's an important element in the design of that asset. Now ultimately, from a design perspective, it will pan out as compared to other CD122 molecules in development that I think we should wait for clinical data for such clinical data to make that competitor.

Operator operator
#70

Our next question will come from Jean Dang with UBS.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#71

So maybe sort of a broader question for the rest of the organic portfolio. So given this 1 is going to the broad autoimmune diseases, where the payer dynamic is quite different from rare disease and rebate war, et cetera. So just wondering, could you highlight any other assets you also plan to go for broad autoimmune diseases? -- maybe 1 to 4 Yes.

Karen Massey executive
#72

Yes, thanks for the question, and it's great to have the opportunity to talk about our pipeline more broadly because it is an exciting pipeline and a broad pipeline -- so what I would start with first is within FcRn. So when you look at Visca, I mentioned earlier that assets -- the indications such as shograns for -- and grave for we've got start to make steps into larger patient populations. When we think about our FcRn strategy more broadly, where we have ARGX-13 and GEN-1 24 as next-gen FcRn molecules -- we also have the opportunity to explore broader and larger patient populations with those assets within the FcRn space. In addition to that, when you look at beyond FcRn into the rest of the pipeline, you can look at GEN-11, is a molecule that we're moving into Phase II. It's an IGA free bot, first molecule IGAN, but that's also a pipeline in a product pipeline in a product with potential for larger indications -- and then as you mentioned, we haven't been public on our indications or our target for [indiscernible]. And we're also moving other INDs forward into the clinic very rapidly this year. And I think what you'll see is a consistent theme that we're expanding the population that we can have impact on and where we can transform outcomes with novel biology. Thanks for the question.

Operator operator
#73

Our final Question will come from Henry debug with Deutsche Bank.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#74

Question please. So in celiac disease, we saw Amgen's IL-15 antibody didn't prevent mucosal industry. injury. So would be good to know what makes you confident on the Phase I data and the proof of concept, given that you said IL-15 is a key target. Does that mean IL-2 is more of an important disease driver. .

Peter Ulrichts executive
#75

Thing there, both papas are involved in celiac disease. I think with the endpoint, with the composite endpoint, it touches upon got morphology, but also lymphocyte infiltration, and there we saw movement on both of these elements. I think from that aspect, the 1B is quite convincing. Thank you.

Operator operator
#76

This concludes our conference today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.

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