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CORONA Remedies Limited (CORONA) Earnings Call Transcript

February 3, 2026

NSEI IN Health Care Pharmaceuticals earnings 43 min

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Operator operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to CORONA Remedies Q3 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call hosted by IIFL Capital Services Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. Before we begin, I would like to point out that this conference may contain forward-looking statements about the company, which are based on the beliefs, opinions and expectations of the company as on date of this call. These statements are not the guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rahul Jeewani from IIFL Capital. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Rahul Jeewani analyst
#2

Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. This is Rahul from IIFL Capital. I welcome you all to the third quarter earnings conference call of CORONA Remedies Limited being hosted by IIFL. From CORONA, we have with us today Mr. Nirav Mehta, Managing Director and CEO; Mr. Ankur Mehta, Joint Managing Director; Mr. Bhavin Bhagat, Chief Financial Officer; Mr. Tejas Kothari, Vice President, Corporate Strategy and Business Development; and Mr. Vijay Charlu, President, India Business. Over to you, sir, for your opening comments.

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#3

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you all for joining us on the Q3 and 9 months FY '26 Earnings Call of CORONA Remedies Limited. Along with me on call, I am joined by our Joint Managing Director, Mr. Ankur Mehta; our CFO, Mr. Bhavin Bhagat; other members of the senior management team; and SGA Strategic Growth Advisor, our Investor Relations partner. We have uploaded our results, press release and investor presentation on the stock exchange and on company's website. I hope everybody has the opportunity to go through the same. I would like to begin by giving you all a brief overview of CORONA Remedies Limited. Established in December 2004, CORONA Remedies has been built on 3 core philosophies, which are referred as the CCC philosophy. The first C stands for culture. It focuses on fostering ruthless execution, internal growth, adaptability and humility. The second C represents courage. It reflects our willingness to acknowledge mistakes, learn from them and continuously improve. The third C is commitment. It represents our dedication to deliver global quality products and achieving long-term sustainable growth. CORONA is an India-focused branded pharmaceutical company engaged in development, manufacturing and marketing of formulations across key therapy areas like women's health care, cardiodiabeto, pain management and urology as well as other segments such as VMN, gastrointestinal, respiratory therapies, et cetera. Approximately 96% of our revenue comes from India. CORONA has grown, invested and expanded in disciplined manner over the last 2 decades, creating a diversified product portfolio. It is towards chronic and semichronic segment, which contributes approximately 70% to 72% of our total revenue. Today, we have a portfolio of 70-plus brands with prominent brands like B-29, Myoril, Tricium, Cortel, Obimet, et cetera. In the past few years, we have consistently outpaced the IPM, Indian Pharmaceutical Market. Speaking for this quarter, we are the fastest -- we are #1 fastest-growing pharmaceutical company amongst top 30 pharma companies in India for Q3 FY '26. We have grown at 18.9%, nearly twice as fast as the IPM, which has grown by 9.6% over the same period as per Pharmatrac. This has resulted in CORONA's jumping up 2 ranks from 30th to 28th rank in IPM, Indian Pharmaceutical Market. An important and differentiating factor driving our overall growth is volume. There are 3 growths: volume, price and new introductions or else it is volume plus NI and the price growth. But CORONA has always been differentiating factor in the overall growth with volumes plus NI. CORONA's healthy volume plus NI growth trajectory comes on back of our focus on the chronic and semi-chronic segment. Along our journey, we have also executed strategic brand acquisition and in-licensing arrangements to address therapy gaps in our portfolio and to establish complementary capabilities such as backward integration, marketing arrangements and diversified product offerings. We have a strong track record when it comes to acquired brands after acquiring brands from giants like GlaxoSmithKline, Abbott, Sanofi, et cetera. We have been successful in scaling those brands considerably, and we hope to continue the same trend with several brand acquisition from Bayer in July 2025. The commercialization of the portfolio acquired from the Bayer will begin in Q4 FY '26 with the launch of Noklot+. The Noklot franchisee has significant market opportunities in antiplatelet and combination therapies and will contribute in our growth in years ahead. The EU-GMP approved Gujarat facility has also received EAEU-GMP accreditation. Eurasian GMP accreditation enables CORONA's entry into 5 EAEU member countries like Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, Belarus and Kazakhstan through a B2B model. It opens assets to a pharmaceutical market valued at approximately USD 25 billion and aligns strongly with CORONA's long-term vision of building and strengthening international partnership. Cash flows has been a cornerstone for our journey and will continue to be so. We have a strong track record of EBITDA to OCF conversion, which has enabled us to reinvest for growth over the past 2 decades. Owing to our disciplined cash flow generation, capital allocation and steady profitability, our returns ratios have been healthy. We are net cash surplus company. The performance is aligned with our annual guidance of 15% revenue growth and 20% PAT growth. Our Engine brand performed in line with the expectation. Going forward, our intent and strategy is to increase our market share across our key therapies areas by focusing on chronic and subchronic segment, offering products across the life cycle of a patient. The strategy is primarily focused on launching new products that address unmet patient need within existing therapy areas. By identifying gaps in patient care and unmet medical needs, we aim to introduce brand line extensions that cater to evolving therapeutic landscapes. Apart from the growing organically brand acquisition and in-licensing arrangements, we remain key growth drivers at CORONA. We are also intensifying our focus with specialist and super specialist prescribers through our medical representative network to enhance our presence in high-value therapeutic segments. Given our diversified and expanding product portfolio, healthy brand strength, wide and growing marketing and distribution network, experienced leadership and financial discipline, we are on track to deliver consistent growth and stable profitability. We expect to continue growing our revenue in mid-teen range and our profit after tax at high-teen range. I would like to hand over the call over to our CFO, Mr. Bhavin Bhagat, to take you through the financial and operational performance. Thank you, and over to Bhavin bhai.

Bhavin Bhagat executive
#4

Thank you, Nirav bhai. A warm welcome to everyone to our Q3 and 9 months FY '26 earnings call. I'll take you through the financial performance for the quarter and 9 months ended 31st December 2025. Coming to the quarterly performance first. Revenue for Q3 FY '26 stood at INR 342 crores versus INR 298 crores in Q3 FY '25, reflecting a healthy growth of 15% Y-o-Y. EBITDA stood at INR 83 crores versus INR 69 crores in Q3 FY '25, reflecting a growth of 20% on a Y-o-Y basis. EBITDA margin improved by around 100 bps and stood at 24.3%. Profit after tax adjusted for the onetime impact of new labor codes stood at INR 56 crores compared to INR 45 crores in Q3 FY '25, reflecting a growth of around 24% Y-o-Y. Speaking of our 9 months FY '26 performance. Revenue for 9 months FY '26 stood at INR 1,050 crores compared to INR 903 crores in 9 months FY '25, reflecting a growth of around 16% on a Y-o-Y basis against our guidance of 15%. EBITDA for 9 months FY '26 grew by almost 25% on a Y-o-Y basis and stood at INR 231 crores. EBITDA margin has seen a healthy improvement of around 140 bps. EBITDA margin for 9 months FY '26 stood at 22%. Adjusted profit after tax for 9 months FY '26 stood at INR 154 crores compared to INR 118 crores in 9 months FY '25, reflecting a growth of around 31% Y-o-Y against our guidance of 20%. Our performance for the quarter and 9 months period is broadly in line with our guidance and is on an improving trajectory. On the return ratio front, we continued to maintain a healthy trajectory. Annualized -- our annualized ROE for 9 months FY '26 stood at 31%, whereas annualized ROCE, return on capital employed for 9 months FY '26 stood at 48%. OCF to EBITDA stood strong at 86%. With that, I would like to open the floor for questions. Thank you.

Operator operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Alankar Garude from Kotak Institutional Equities.

Alankar Garude analyst
#6

Sir, we have shown a pretty strong outperformance versus the IPM yet again if you look at secondary sales data. However, on a reported basis, our extent of outperformance has narrowed a bit in this quarter. So just wanted to understand what is leading to this difference between primary and secondary sales for us?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#7

I couldn't get your question, Nirav here. But what I understand, you want to understand about difference between primary and secondary. My question -- understanding is correct?

Alankar Garude analyst
#8

No. Nirav bhai, my question is, if you look at, say, IQVIA data, I mean, if you compare the growth reported by CORONA in the third quarter versus what the industry has reported, there is a very significant outperformance, which you alluded to as well. But if you look at the reported growth of 15%-odd in this quarter, while it's still pretty strong, you've seen some other companies also reporting pretty strong growth in this quarter. So just -- I mean, I wanted to check whether there is any reason for difference between primary and secondary sales specifically in this quarter or there's nothing much to read into this?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#9

Okay. Honestly, there's nothing much to read into it. More or less, this is data captured is just giving you the idea that how market has performed and what you have performed. It has never been possible to match apple-to-apple or pineapple to pineapple. It is always there plus or minus here and there. This is just the guideline, which IQVIA has shown and this outcome -- so you're talking about 15% versus 18.9% and trying to compare that?

Alankar Garude analyst
#10

Yes, I was just looking at the outperformance on a relative basis. I know...

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#11

No, the reported -- I understand. No, there is nothing like any extraordinary price thing on the primary or secondary front. It is more or less data captured things on the pharma track or IQVIA.

Alankar Garude analyst
#12

Got it. The other question was, if you look at the mix of domestic and international, we do share that percentage contribution from domestic in our presentation. If you look at, say, the second quarter, third quarter and even if I look at, say, first quarter from the RHP, the contribution of international has broadly stayed similar over the last 3 quarters. Now given this recent EU GMP certification for those 5 markets, should we expect a much faster growth in the international market compared to the domestic business?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#13

So yes and no, both the things have been there. See, international business in the pharmaceutical industry has been typical. First, you get the accreditation approved, then you are going to submit the dossier. For dossier to get the approval will take another 1, 2 years and then the business start. So on a long term, if you understand that the CI -- after look at 3, 4, 5 years, the CI of international and India business will be broadly more or less 90% and 10%, but not more than that. So more or less, it's an India-focused industry. And at the same time, if we continue to grow in India business by 15% more or less here and there, it doesn't change the proportionate because there also, you grew by 20%, 25% and here you grew by 15%, but the pie more or less remains same. So this 3%, 4% will go to 7%, 8% and then further move to 8%, 9% in the years to come that has been possible.

Alankar Garude analyst
#14

Got it, sir. And just one final follow-up. Will we need any incremental investments to drive growth in exports?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#15

No, I think so internal, we have enough cash generated from the business, as Bhavin bhai just spoke about OCF EBITDA is 84%. Today also, we have been INR 100 crores plus net cash positive company. I don't think so that we require any further capital to boost the international business.

Alankar Garude analyst
#16

Sir, my question also was on the OpEx. So any addition of manpower or any other spends on distribution, et cetera?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#17

So we have just capitalized our 600 kg line, which enhances our 40% capacity as of now. Now we will need of another plant in -- as per our predictions and planning. I think so we required some -- one more plant in FY '28 to FY '29. So we will start thinking on this after a few months, I think.

Operator operator
#18

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Shubham Aggarwal from Burman Capital.

Shubham Aggarwal analyst
#19

Sir, I was just looking at your employee and your MR-related costs and comparing that with some of the other companies that are operating in heavy domestic branded formulations and more specifically in the therapies that you operate, it seems that there is like 14%, 15% kind of difference, which obviously has narrowed down in past -- last 2, 3 years. And that in my analysis seems to be coming out from the PCPM, which for us seems to be lower than IPM. So I just wanted to understand that given you highlight mid-teens kind of growth and your MRs growing at 5% to 7% CAGR, is there a possibility that we will continue to see margin expansion, margins probably reaching high 20s or potentially 30% in medium to long term? So I just wanted to understand what's your ambition on that part.

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#20

I request Bhavin bhai to answer the question.

Bhavin Bhagat executive
#21

Shubham, your question is bang on. You asked the questions which everyone asked to us, and we answer them in a very clinical manner. Yes, your question is right that our employee cost percentage compared to the other peers seems to be high. But answering that question is that you have to see apple-to-apple growth. In the last 3 years, we have deployed 600 medical reps in the system, which will increase our employee cost in the initial days. And you have also endorsed that in the last 3 years, that cost -- employee cost percentage has reduced. And yes, it will come down in coming years down the line. But because of the heavy expansion, which we did in the last 3 years, because of which the employee cost seems to be high. And resulting your question -- another question towards PCPM is linked with the same things that when you deploy medical reps, as we mentioned in our earlier calls as well, that we would be deploying 5% to 6% medical reps out of the total medical reps on a yearly basis on an average terms. So because of which in the past years, PCPM was low. But now if you see in years down the line, our PCPM will improve because of our leverage in our PCPM improvement and the revenue growth of 15%, what we have committed. Answering your last question about the margin expansion by 30%, what you are seeing and what we are currently at 20%, 21% or 22% from an EBITDA standpoint. Yes, having said that, as my employee costs will reduce, my EBITDA margins will improve. But lastly speaking, our revenue will grow by 15% irrespective of our MR additions and our PAT growth, which we are confident to achieve 20%. That is what we would like to share.

Operator operator
#22

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Rishi [indiscernible] from CV Asset Managers LLP.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#23

Congratulations on a good set of numbers. My question is more on the inorganic growth plan. Do we have any deal on the table? Are we evaluating any inorganic acquisitions?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#24

Yes. Thank you. As far as inorganic is concerned, we are constantly evaluating the things. As of now also, we are evaluating on 2 brand acquisitions, but it has always been once out of 100. So we never know that when these things will convert into the reality. But yes, we are bang on. We are working hard into it that if any brand or our portfolio has been in the fitment, we are happy to see it. And we have several examples of success in this fashion. So we are looking into it. As of now, nothing concrete into it.

Operator operator
#25

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Amey Chalke from JM Financial.

Amey Chalke analyst
#26

This is Amey from JM. Nirav bhai, I have one question on basically long-term margins. So in terms of growth, we have been one of the top companies among -- in top 30 companies in India. But when it comes to margins, we are still at around 22%, 24% kind of a range, whereas a similar business mix or product mix companies are also operating at 35% plus EBITDA margin. So at what point you think in terms of scale, we will be able to achieve these kind of margins? And also, what is the difference in terms of the structure, et cetera, between these companies and us when it comes to the margin profile?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#27

Thanks, Amey bhai. Amey bhai, as far as pharmaceutical industry is concerned, more or less, answering your second question first and first a second, more or less, the structure remains same for majority of all top companies. So I'm talking about the peers, the structure more or less remains same. See, what we think at CORONA, we are in the business of revenue growth with specialist and super specialists, prescription-based business and a long-term business. So today, we are in 4 therapies slowly and gradually. As I discussed last time, we are going to enter in infertility. Sometimes we'll enter in rheumatology, spine. So we are trying to enter into the new therapies. Always, we keep in the mind that we will grow with the 15%. And when we talk about 15%, we are talking about double than the market, more or less or 1.8x than the market, right? When market grows about 8%, 9%, 10%, and if you are talking about 15% plus, I think so we are talking about more or less 1.75% to 2% than the market. To do it, we have to enter with new, new therapies. We have to launch new products. We have to go ahead with super specialty focus. Whatever we do, we always remain 2 numbers in the mind, 15% revenue growth and 20% profitability growth. If we continue to achieve in the same blind directions, I think so we will soon be entered with the peers in the years to come. The point is consistently, we have -- at CORONA, we have to achieve 20% profitability growth and 15% revenue growth. If one happens and it doesn't happen, I think so it's not a healthy mix. Revenue growth is equally important as the profitability growth, and our eye is on 15% and 20% revenue and profitability for next few years as a guideline also. And I think so if we achieve, we will be more or less near to the peers.

Amey Chalke analyst
#28

Sure. So going ahead, investors basically should see that you will continue to maintain -- try to maintain your top line growth, while your margins will keep on gradually improving as you scale achieve?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#29

Absolutely, absolutely. I think so you have sum up my answer.

Amey Chalke analyst
#30

Sure, sure. And the second question I have is on the seasonality front. Since this is first time we are seeing the quarters of our businesses, is it possible to explain like how the quarters are typically staggered in terms of both expenses because there have been some companies in the market, which typically do tend to spend a lot in terms of marketing in a fourth quarter or something like that or the fourth quarter is typically a weak quarter for many of the Indian -- India-focused companies. So in that aspect, if you can explain the seasonality of our businesses in terms of both revenue as well as the expenses.

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#31

So as far as CORONA is concerned, we have about 70% to 72% of chronic and semi-chronic. And acute business has been about another 28%, 30% on overall business. More or less, there is hardly a seasonality, but 3%, 4% plus or minus on quarter-on-quarter variation may happen. So hypothetically, if you talk about 4 quarter and 25%, 25%, 25%, 25%, then it may be like 22 to 27 percentage sort of revenue and hence, the profitability, more or less, this is the range which we follow. But if you look at CORONA since FY '22, always we have delivered FY '22 to today, we are in FY '26, now we are approaching towards the last quarter of FY '26, we have always delivered on a yearly basis, 15% plus revenue growth and 20% plus PAT growth.

Amey Chalke analyst
#32

Sure, sure. So we should expect a minimal seasonality impact in quarters going ahead basically? And in terms of expense, do we staggered our expense across 4 quarters or we might see one of the quarters being higher in terms of spend? Because this...

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#33

We staggered...

Amey Chalke analyst
#34

Good EBITDA margins of 24%. Should we expect that to continue going ahead or...

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#35

So answering your question, we staggered the expenses. There is nothing like a load on one of the quarters. And I think so we'll continue to do so with the guideline and estimation, which I have just spoken now.

Operator operator
#36

The next question comes from the line of Rahul Jeewani from IIFL Capital.

Rahul Jeewani analyst
#37

Sir, on, let's say, the 600 MRs, which you said you have added over the past 3 years, can you also talk about in terms of the divisions in which these MRs have got added? And the second part to that question would be, we obviously are now trying to ramp up our IVF portfolio through the 7 brands which we acquired from Bayer. So can you also talk about, let's say, in terms of how the rep team and the channel strategy is being adopted for scaling up the IVF portfolio?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#38

Thanks, Rahul bhai. So first of all, answering your question on the -- about the split of the 600 medical representatives. We have launched one vertical into the cardiometabolic, name is Radiance and there, we have taken about 250 people. The another is the Solaris, which we have taken a team for gynecology, women's health care. So another 250 people and about the 100 people all across the other divisions. So that's how we have taken about 600 people in the business. And as far as this Bayer 7 brands deal is concerned, as I told you, one of the brand is Noklot+, which we are going to launch in this month, so this quarter 4 of FY '26, which is in the therapy of cardiology as the antiplatelet anticoagulant market, Noklot+, and we are going to launch a couple of other combination in the category of Noklot in a quarter to come. So this is about one brand. And another -- few brands, about 4, 5 brands we are going to launch with the IVF portfolio. We have already been more or less taken the team about 46 people across the nation because these are the super specialty people where we want to cater about 3,000 IVF centers. Our goal is to cater about 3,000 top centers -- IVF centers of the country. People are in place. We are -- moreover training is going on. And we are going to launch a few other products with the Bayer's trademark, the validation that is going on, and we are going to make it in quarter 1 or quarter 2 of FY '27, which we also given the guidance last time. So more or less, we will use this trademark -- the capitalization of the trademark by FY '27, first quarter few and second quarter few.

Rahul Jeewani analyst
#39

Sure, sir. So of these 3,000 IVF centers, which we target to cover, how many reps have we added? And sir, given that it is kind of an institutional business, do you think that the hygiene parameters which we have for the rest of our business in terms of discounting, we might have to go aggressive in terms of trying to scale up this IVF institutional business?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#40

So number one, we have taken 46 people. And these 46 people are meeting to the 3,000 centers where we have already been meeting them since years together in our women's health care -- with our women's health care, 3 divisions like Aarush, Solis and Solaris. And as far as supply chain is concerned, there is only a change that if these products are coming into the cold chain management, we will utilize that channel as a cold chain management or a normal chain management. But the hygiene, payment, credit days, all remains same as per the CORONA philosophy because we always believe that governance is extremely important in any business. And in this institute business, we have not -- we have decided not to give any leverage on to the fundamentals of CORONA. So we will not do it. But the products are a little unique, a little different. And the technology is of Bayer. So we would like -- we will take the utmost advantage of it.

Rahul Jeewani analyst
#41

Sure, sir. And sir, my second question is with respect to, let's say, the GLP-1 market in India. The market would open up from March '26. So what are our ambitions in terms of the GLP-1 space? So if you can comment about your strategy, whether you would launch both the injectable and the oral version at the same point in time?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#42

No, Rahul bhai, here at the March '26, about 25th or 26th March 2026, GLP-1 off-patent will come to the end. But at that time, that is only for the injectable, not for the oral. So we are going to launch the GLP-1 injectable with Wintide as the brand name. And let's see that how this market shape up. We have been there because we understand this segment is extremely important. But let's see times to come, I think so we can debate more on this subject.

Rahul Jeewani analyst
#43

Sure, sir. And sir, last question with respect to the quarterly seasonality. Now while you mentioned that the expenses are not, let's say, heavy on any one quarter, but if I look at your margin profile last year, so third quarter, your EBITDA margins were closer to 23%. And fourth quarter last year, the margins came down to 19%. So do you think that a similar seasonality would play out this year as well in terms of margins? Or would you expect, let's say, the margins to sustain at 2Q or 3Q levels?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#44

So as I say, Rahul bhai to Amey bhai also, more or less, if you look at 25%, but here and there, a few percentage has been there because of the -- that quarter's need or launching a new vertical or a new product, whatever it is, more or less, our endeavor is to give annualized 15% revenue and 20% PAT growth, putting one quarter here and there. There is no seasonality factor at least. But yes, hypothetically, this time in March, we are looking to launch GLP-1. While some sales and distribution cost may incur a little higher in the last quarter, may be possible. I don't know. So what I mean to say is we always eye on yearly data of 15% and 20% revenue and PAT growth as a growth. Today, we have been very optimistic as far as this quarter also and hence, the annualized return of FY '26 also.

Operator operator
#45

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Karan Sharma from Sharma Securities.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#46

Sir I have a couple of questions. Sir, I wanted to get some sense on the portfolio and the new product pipeline. Can you share some more details on the acquisition pipeline or in-licensing that are in the pipeline?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#47

Thank you, sir. Sir, as far as inorganic is concerned, I have answered just before a few minutes that we are looking at some acquisitions as the proposal. Nothing concrete, nothing finalized, but we are in the process of looking at the things very, very optimistically. About the new launch, we are -- as I also said, with the Bayer portfolio capitalization, we already launched one of the product, Noklot as a capitalization. And now we are looking at a few more, about 5, 6 products in the infertility segment in next 2, 3 quarters, we are going to capitalize and launch. About GLP-1 also, we are thinking to launch in the first day of the off-patent. And as a philosophy, we are launching 1 or 2 new products per division. So more or less about 8 to 10 new introductions per year. If it is with the acquisition or it is with the -- organically majorly about 95% it is organically and 5%, 7% chances are there with the inorganically. So this is more or less our philosophy is. In the quarter 4, we are eyeing on launching 3 biosimilars. One about denosumab that is Tricium D and AB, which strengthened our osteoporosis segment. About recombinant FSH in another quarter with Fostine R, a Bayer's brand name Fostine R, we are going to launch about recombinant FSH and GLP-1. So we are trying to target specialists and super specialists in the chronic therapy and trying to launch new products about 8 to 10 in a year. I hope I answered your question.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#48

Yes, yes. And sir, as you talked on Bayer, so what kind of market size does we have there? And what is our aspirational revenue target from this product portfolio?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#49

About INR 1,500 crores of IVF market and about INR 800 crores of antiplatelet or anticoagulant market.

Unknown Analyst analyst
#50

Okay. Okay, sir. And sir, just last question. As you mentioned about volume growth, can you let me know a ballpark breakup between volume, price and product mix for this 9 months?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#51

It is about 5%, 5% and 5%, more or less, 0.5% here and there. Volume is about 5% against the industry benchmark is about 0.5% and about new product is about 5.5%, 6% and remaining is the price.

Operator operator
#52

The next question comes from the line of Sidharth Negandhi from CWC.

Sidharth Negandhi analyst
#53

Just wanted to understand a couple of other sort of colors around the growth. Could you help us understand how are you seeing the growth pan out between expansion of the workforce versus PCPM growth? That is one. And on the new product introductions that you've mentioned, how much of that will require any additional CapEx towards manufacturing versus external CDMO or CMO-led manufacturing? So that's -- those are my 2 questions.

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#54

So generally, as far as the 15% revenue growth is concerned, it is more or less organically with the team because any expansion gives first year -- first 2, 3 years is the base years. So they are not going to contribute much into the growth trajectory. But yes, for the future, you have to expand the team also. And that is our guideline is about 5% to 7% people on year-on-year or put together, we try to expand the people in the country of India. And as far as our own manufacturing and CMO, I think so the ratio is about 65% and 35%. More or less, it remains same, 65% and 35%. Sometimes it goes to 40% and then 60% or sometimes it goes to 70% and 30%, but the range remains 65% on manufacturing and 35% on CDMO, CMO dependability.

Sidharth Negandhi analyst
#55

And therefore, in context of the future growth outlook, should we assume that, that ratio will remain same? And how should we then think of CapEx in that context?

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#56

So as I said you, we want to make sure that as much as about 65% plus, we want to have the own manufacturing. But at the same time, if we don't have that capacity, we will go on CMO as of now. And after 2, 3 years, when we scaled up with that portfolio, we can think of manufacturing in-house. So more or less, by next year, I think so we required to start thinking into it. As a company, we have decided to start thinking into it about -- because at that time, we need another block for our FY '28, '29 also. So we'll try to look into it if we want to add any new line like injectable line or biosimilar line, we'll think of at that given of time. As of now, there is no need because just we have 40% -- we have just unlocked the 40% capacity by 600 kg line.

Operator operator
#57

As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to management for closing comments. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Niravkumar Mehta executive
#58

Thank you all once again for joining us today on the Q3 and 9-month FY '26 earnings call. We will keep the investor and analyst community posted with any update relating to CORONA remedies. We hope we have been able to address all your queries. For any other information, kindly get in touch with us or SGA, our Investor Relationship partner. Thank you so much, and have a great evening ahead.

Operator operator
#59

Thank you. On behalf of IIFL Capital Services Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.

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