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Eni S.p.A. (ENI) Earnings Call Transcript

July 29, 2026

BIT IT Energy Oil, Gas and Consumable Fuels earnings 69 min

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Operator operator
#1

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Enis 2026 First Half Results Conference Call hosted by Mr. Claudio Descalzii, Chief Executive Officer. [Operator Instructions] I am now handing you over to your host to begin today's conference. Thank you.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#2

Thank you. Good morning. Good afternoon for being with us today. Our second quarter and first half results clearly reflect our successful execution of the strategy and the objectives we have consistently communicated. In Q2, Eni generated EUR 5.4 billion pro forma EBIT and EUR 2.3 billion net income both doubling year-on-year and EUR 4.5 billion of cash flow from operations, up over 60%. This growth significantly outpaced the increase in Brent prices over the same period, demonstrating the strength of our operating leverage and our ability to absorb a highly unfavorable foreign exchange environment. . Looking at the first half of the year, we delivered a remarkable 40% year-on-year increase in pro forma EBIT. Reported gearing remained stable quarter-on-quarter while pro forma gearing declined to 10%, reaching the lower end of our target range. Overall, this performance reflects excellent operational execution, effective capture of market opportunities and the continued delivery of our consistent strategy. The first half of 2026 marked by the emergence of a new crisis, the Gulf has once again put our industry to extraordinary volatility. Yet any, as demonstrated its ability to effectively meet gas turn on pressures. Our resilience is underpinned by a broad geographic diversification, strong operational efficiency and the deployment of proprietary technologies. At the same time, our robust organic growth continues to be fueled by our outstanding exploration success and a deep pipeline of development opportunities. Most importantly, our growth is increasingly multidimensional. While exploration and production remains our highly competitive core business, we are rapidly scanning attractive growth platforms right across the energy value chain. Specifically, I would like to highlight 3 key pillars of our strategy. First, diversification. We are well diversified across the geographies, businesses and technologies, while some of our operations have been affected by events in the Middle East, the overall impact has not been material. Actions taken in 2026 have further strengthened this diversification, increasing our exposure to Asia in South America expanding our transition-related businesses and opening new opportunity in trading activities, critical minerals and stationary batteries. Second, growth. We continue to deliver a unique double engine of growth, combining industry-leading organic upstream production with a rapid parallel expansion in low carbon energy. Third, financial performance. We continue to generate standing financial results with over 60% of our original plan targets already met year-to-date. Also thanks to the pipeline to market of our projects. Our satellite model increasingly acknowledged as a material positive financiator for Eni continues to derisk the balance sheet attracting third-party capital to fund our expansion across new technologies and geographies. Turning to upstream. We delivered an outstanding 8% year-on-year reported production growth. In the first half of the year or 11% underlying, we fully offset Middle East volume losses, thanks to the efficient execution of major operating projects, including Agogo, in Angola, Amoca Mexico, Congo Phase I as well as a strong contribution from Var Energy. This growth is entirely organic and reflect investment and exploration successes achieved over several years. As discussed during Q1, our unique 2026 exploration performance has added over 1 billion barrels of new resources supported by credible development pathways. This success is driven by key discoveries, including Agata 01 in Angola, Moran South 1 in Codere to offshore gas discoveries near Baracalam in Libya, the limits discovery of Shore Egypt and the giant Galligan gas ground and condensate discovery in Indonesia. We have further refreshed our future pipeline with new acreage position in Uruguay, Timo list and Gambia. Furthermore, to secure our medium-term production capacity during the plan period, we have sanctioned 3 major projects: Balan Phase III in Cote d'Ivoire Gang North in Indonesia and Cronos in Cyprus. Beyond these projects, we are reshaping our global footprint through the blue buildup of 2 diversified regional clusters. In Asia, the CR business combination completed in June, created our largest satellite platform to date and established a leading player in the Pacific region. Initial production exceeded expectations surpassing 300,000 barrels per day and backed by a 3 billion-barrel reserve upside. It has a clear path to approach 800,000 barrel per day by 2030. In the Americas, we continue to advance significant opportunities in Argentina and Venezuela, which together with our existing position in Mexico and the United States represent an increasingly important component of our upstream portfolio. In detail, in Venezuela, we are finalizing a negotiation for new contracts, for Konin and Corocoro. Simultaneously, we have finalized the gas export agreement for the giant Perla field, collectively, our footprint in Venezuela unlocks an outstanding gross potential of more than 5.5 billion barrels of recoverable resources. Meanwhile, in Argentina, our newly consolidated asset all an exceptional 25 Tcf of gas equivalent to 4.3 billion barrel of recoverable resources, plus an additional 500 million-barrel condensate bringing total gross recoverable resources in the country to 4.8 billion barrels. The new material initiatives in Argentina, Venezuela, East Asia, together with our African portfolio, provide absolute confidence in our long-term trajectory. As a result, we now expect production growth to be around 4% CAGR guidance through 2030, while we are also developing a unique visibility on a further wave of growth opportunities beyond 2030. Importantly, through portfolio high grading and strategic moves like our recently announced Mercuria joint venture, this volume growth will translate directly into cash flow. Underpinning our primary target, growing our upstream free cash flow per barrel by more than 50% by 2030. Our Q2 results demonstrate any stability both to capture favorable market conditions and to enhance underlying profitability. E&P delivered outstanding production growth and successfully captured the benefits of the market environment with particular strong contributions from Norway and Congo. GGP generated pro forma EBIT of EUR 0.47 billion confirming better-than-expected performance and supporting a further increase in our EBIT guidance to over EUR 1.4 billion. We also see additional upside potential in the second half supported by current pricing conditions and inventory replenishment dynamics. Plenti and Eni and I together generated EUR 670 million of pro forma EBITDA in the quarter and EUR 1.13 billion in the first half, supporting an increase in full year guidance to EUR 2.6 billion compared with the original EUR 2.4 billion. Within transformation businesses, refinery utilization recovered following the major turnaround activities completed during the first half. Mercari also continued to reduce losses in line with the improvement plan, also supported by better market conditions. Contribution from associates benefited from supporting macroeconomic conditions and the consolidation of Searah from June onward. The first half tax rate of approximately 39% was below our full year guidance, reflecting the impact of high grading upstream production. The accounting impact of satellite, the transition towards more sustainability, diversified overall income mix and the benefit of our restructuring and performance improvement initiatives. Cash flow from operations remained strong, supported by dividend contribution from associates and continued working capital improvement. Operational working capital generated a positive contribution in the quarter, and we continue to expect an overall reduction throughout 2026. Capital expenditure amounted to EUR 1.8 billion in Q2, and we continue to expect approximately EUR 7 billion of gross CapEx for the full year while we also reduced the net figure to below EUR 5 billion. We paid the fort and final quarterly dividend related to 2025 and repurchased EUR 600 millions of shares. Since 2021 outstanding shares have been reduced by around 18%. In light of the raised guidance for CFFO to EUR 15 billion, we now expect to repurchase EUR 3.4 billion of shares in the 2026 program representing a combined yield to our investors of around 10%. Pro forma gearing at the quarter end remained at 10%, the lower end of our target range and we expect reported gearing to converge to our debt level by year-end. In conclusion, the combination of our upstream positioning and growth outlook, our integration across the entire energy value chain, the increasing value creation from our transition businesses and our strong financial foundation position us competitively in a world that has entered a new energy paradigm. This confirmed by the revised guidance for most of our business is that translate into an increased distribution. Underlying oil and gas production growth is now seen exceeding 5% above the upper end of the previous range. GGP pro forma EBIT is raised to over EUR 1.4 billion, plus 40% compared with the initial level. In pro forma adjusted EBITDA is revised up by 18% at EUR 1.3 billion. And at a revised scenario of 85% dollar per barrel brand, adjusted CFFO is expected at EUR 15 billion, returning a higher buyback of EUR 3.4 billion. The new buyback represents 127% increase over the initial guidance of EUR 1.5 billion at the budgeted cash flow. The potential special dividend related to oil price above $90 per barrel or gas price and SEM margin. More than 50% of the original budget assumptions will be detenanted in the last quarter. In this environment Eni is in one of the strongest position in its history. That concludes my marking together with my colleagues, from any management team, I'm ready to take your questions. Thank you.

Operator operator
#3

[Operator Instructions] I now leave the floor to Mr. Jon Rikefor the Q&A session.

Jon Rigby executive
#4

Thank you, [Operator Instructions] We'll start with Alejandro Vigil at Santander. Alex?

Alejandro Vigil analyst
#5

The first question is about the guidance about production. Definitely, this year looks very strong also with the Searah consolidation. If you can give us numbers about the outlook of 2030 of production just to have some indication of the range of potential volumes that year. And the second question is about the European natural gas market. You mentioned that in the guidance for global gas and LNG, you are not including any upside from the current situation. If you can elaborate about how you see the second half of the year. Thank you.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#6

Thank you for production so I think I -- we do will take over for the question and were very well, okay. Is there a crestal there for -- to give you an update on the gas in the second half, as you asked.

Cristian Signoretto executive
#7

Yes. So on production, of course, you noticed that we have improved our guidance in 2026. Originally, we provided a range of 3% to 4% growth underlying, which now increased to 5%, and this is coming for -- from a higher contribution from some country like Libya, Mexico, Kazakhstan and of course, the anticipation of the business combination in Searah. While for the 2030, we also provided in a stronger support to our originally provided guidance. And you have noticed that we have accelerated some major FID. We have included some projects, which initially were beyond 2030, and that we have now anticipated to the 2030 plan.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#8

So just to give some more color on our production, if we look at all the projects that were in our slide, we have 54 projects. They're coming from our organic growth. So our exploration is something that is coming from the exploration we performed in the last 10 years. And most of these projects are ready in a very -- so we talk the FID. Some are really in execution, but most of them are with the PD done. So that is going to give that 4% with said by 2030 and is going to confirm a solid growth also after 2030.

Alejandro Vigil analyst
#9

So when it comes to the gas market scenario for the second half, I would say our scenario is currently in line with the forward curves, as you can see. But I think we can say that the situation is fairly fragile given the geopolitical situation and, let's say, delay in the replenishment of the European storage. So we think that depending clearly on the evolution of the situation, we can see upside potential in terms of volatility and flat price numbers when it comes to the second half and I think the idea is that we are ready, clearly, with our assets to take advantage of that situation.

Jon Rigby executive
#10

We're going to now move on to Berastaria RBC. Biraj, are you there? .

Biraj Borkhataria analyst
#11

In. The first is just on Venezuela, which you touched on in your initial remarks, there were some reports recently that the government had presented new terms to the industry. I'm just wondering if you thought those were sufficient to drive investment beyond 2027 and '28 and more on the oil side than the gas side? And then the second question is just on refining. The strength in the downstream has been the big theme this quarter. I know you don't have a huge amount of exposure to this, but I just noticed your indicator was down quarter-on-quarter. I guess we're looking at the cracks on the screen, which are very strong. So could you just help me understand why you're not able to take advantage of that and how we should think about that kind of going to the second half.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#12

So Venezuela, now maybe whether can complement what I'm going to say. Venezuela, we are in negotiation. Very, very open, clear and transparent is very good negotiation. We are discussing very well with the ministry with Pete. Clearly, we also with our American partners, and we have a big potential, as we said, we are one of the best block in 5. We have we have Corocoro. We have parallel for which we already signed a contract that has been very, very quick in a couple of months ago. We signed a contract for export. That is very good because it's going to complement our domestic production, and that gives even more great and more space for future investment. As you know, we already developed all the -- most of the infrastructure for the second phase, so we can really go fast for the second phase and then put in place a floating LNG for export. So up to now, Venezuela is responding very well. Clearly, we are going to negotiate a contract that allows us to make investment. We have to remember the history of this country, it's not that we forgot what we had been in the past. So we are prudent. But I think that what happened until now is incenting us to go ahead with our Venezuelan partner with Pete and the minister. Just to talk about SEM, I like that maybe Francesco say something about SEM. And then if there is anything to us for Venezuela or in general for downstream. Supino can add something and Stefano Ballista if there is something for the biofuel refineries. .

Francesco Gattei executive
#13

Yes. About our benchmark refining margin. Clearly, this benchmark is say, a nominal value that is presenting a status that is normalized status of the market. So it takes account of the crudes that are generally imported in our refineries take into account of the freight costs that are normally assumed for this transportation and for these logistic events. The situation that we faced since March are completely, let's say, out of normal -- so the term that you can read on just a generic way is not the actual margin that we are able to capture because there are some factors of discount, mainly higher freight cost, higher register cost, differential of crudes that are not matching the original crudes that were included in formula, different hills. . And also, there is some hedging, let's say, factors that weighted because we covered a small portion of the throughput during the quarter because we take advantage of the scenario. Clearly, the spike that occurred in the last month is so, let's say, material that has limited this opportunity. In general, you have to consider that what you read as an average on a nominal term to be converted in our actual figure will be with a discount of $2, $3 per barrel.

Biraj Borkhataria analyst
#14

Okay. It's very clear. The fundamental is in any case that we have completed all the turnaround in the first and the sum in the second -- in second quarter. And so we are very able to maintain the maximum capacity in the third call, and that it means with this current margin a lot of rise.

Giuseppe Ricci executive
#15

If I may, I'd like to complement with some operational information. On the gas business, Venezuela, of course. On the gas business, as you know, in March, we have signed a sustainability agreement on Card -- and the -- and PDVSA is honoring this agreement, so it's providing cargo to pay the current gas invoices. On the other hand, we are preparing a plan of development for Perla to export gas and the filing of this POD is imminent. On the oil business, as Claudio said, we are at the very final stage of the negotiation. And we have also prepared ourselves, and we are ready to mobilize as soon as we sign this contract rigs to exploit the resources there and make use of the spare capacity that the facilities in Venezuela have to increase production, of course. .

Jon Rigby executive
#16

We're now going to move to Josh Stone at UBS, Josh.

Joshua Eliot Stone analyst
#17

Two questions, please. Firstly, on thanks for the project list on Slide 6. It's useful. If I understand correctly, you want to develop these new projects without increasing spending. So it sort of brings up the question of what -- which bridge projects are falling off the list? And I noticed in your release, there was some impairment related to a slowdown in more marginal fields. So maybe anything around the sort of which fields are more marginal, which geographies are more marginal to make room for these new projects would be useful. And then second question on chemicals. The losses clearly narrowed this quarter, but still losing money. Maybe just talk about the trend of earnings is what you're seeing for margins in chemicals and how much of the improvement could be attributed to the self-help versus the wider macro.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#18

So for CapEx, so it's true, we are growing and also, we demonstrate in the last couple of years that we are going without increasing CapEx. That means that it comes from at least 2 factors. One, that our -- we are very effective and efficient in developing field. So in the last project, I think in the last time projects that we developed -- I talked about a large project we expect not just the timing but also the budget. So we never exceed our budget. That is a very critical point in the upstream, especially when you develop deep offshore or floating LNG or other stuff that you're able to respect time and budget. Secondly, are we -- as you know, we create a different kind of economic model, so state model through which we consolidate and through the growth component and the value component -- they have production, they can justify their investments without really creating additional burden on our balance sheet. And that allows us to go faster and keep a very clean or live balance sheet that allow us to be to expand or increase our remuneration for, for example, that is, as you know, is our priority, and that's what we demonstrated in the last couple of years. So it's not a question to delete or write-off as you sell margin on file. We never write off margin feel we farm out through an M&A process that was very successful through which we got some good income. But I think that's the reason -- the 2 principal reason is what I tell you. I told you. So I don't know if you want to -- either to add something, otherwise, I give the ball, I pass the ball to Adriano talk about chemicals and chemicals trend and how we're going to do future.

Giuseppe Ricci executive
#19

Josh, thanks for the question. As you were described in the question, the result in thermochemical is improving quarter-over-quarter. In the second quarter compared to the same quarter of last year, we have seen a major improvement in the range of 3 digit above 3 digit. We need to make a distinction between what is transformation and what is the scenario that also as you asked. In terms of transformation, we are performing in line with the what we said to the market that we expect that on a yearly basis, we have in the ballpark of EUR 250 million. And if you see right now the trajectory of result of the transformation we are a little above 10% above this target of EUR 250 million, right now, we estimate more in the range of EUR 280 million, EUR 300 million. Part is also a scenario. We've seen an improvement in the scenario in the second half. You need to consider the net impact of the scenario because you know that we are energy-intensive or feedstock intensive. So of course, what we have seen in terms of increase of feedstock energy, we, of course, is higher cost for us but we have seen also a shortage in the market, not an increase of demand. This is something that we should ground as a scenario. There is no increase of demand, but it's a shortage of product because for 6, 8 weeks due to the Hormaz closure we have not seen imports from Middle East. But after 8 weeks, we have seen an increase of import of U.S. So whatever probably was not coming from Middle East has been replaced. So we are now back to the starting point. But for sure, in the second quarter, we've seen an improvement of the scenario. To the last part of your question, how much is this trajectory going forward is based on what we declared to the market. We expect to continue to improve performance due to transformation of the improvement on a yearly basis for coming years is a 50% transformation and 50% is new platforms, more or less.

Jon Rigby executive
#20

Thanks, Josh. We're now going to move to as Andrew Bose at Mediobank. Alessandro?

Alessandro Pozzi analyst
#21

Yes. Thank you for the questions. The first one, for Claudio. And going back to production. Of course, you have a lot of production coming to 2030. But if you add all the other opportunities that you have in Cyprus, additional upside in Indonesia. Argentina and Venezuela, it looks like the potential for underlying growth is very large even beyond 2030. And of course, there's always a need for disposal. But putting disposals aside, what could be the potential underlying growth of the portfolio that you have today looking into, let's say, middle of next decade. And the second one, kind of a follow-on on disposals. So can you give us an update on the disposal that you expect in the upstream, maybe Indonesia as well there is a bit more to be sold there and also on the scope of the agreement with IRS in the upstream.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#22

Thank you for your question. Clearly, we in next year, we are going to have an update on what we said now and I just said is that the expectation up to 2030 is 4% growth. After 2030, maybe can be better than that. For sure, I don't think that there is another company that has more than 54 projects for startup radiorganic with very low cost. So we're going to see. Clearly, we have to understand what is the situation, it's very difficult to talk about the end of the year with this kind of volatility with our ore is happening. And it's hard to talk about 2027, all see how we are really solid, and we don't have -- we don't scare anything. But clearly, if you have to talk in 5, 6, 7 years, what are going to happen. I think that we are in a situation, and we're we -- the world needs more energy. That is clear. There is an energy race among the big champions, the big countries for different reasons, demography clear, but also we talk about hyperscale data center, AI and the growth rate as the industry and a lot of countries are demonstrating. So we need energy. And now we understood that we need oil and gas that is clear. And we are really well pleased to give an answer to this call, this big call about oil and gas. I don't think that we never been so strong and inside industry in terms of number of projects and geographies because when I talk about 54 new project, we are talking about at least 13 or 13 or 14 different countries. So diversification, it's a key word diversification. That means that we don't have all the eggs in the same basket. And each country is very rich in terms of future growth. So I can tell you, we are in a good position. We have in a good position in a world that needs is really -- they need energy. They are hungry for energy, starving for energy and any is really in a very strong position, never been so strong. Disposal, I think that I give the floor to Francesco to talk about the state we sold our disposal.

Francesco Gattei executive
#23

Clearly, the plan for this year is almost completed. As you mentioned, we are in advanced stage for the last step that is the Indonesia 10% that has already entered the first -- the last stage. We have completed a number of deals and that are pending the closing. We have done the Nigeria onshore disposal. We have done -- we are running the increase our capital plan to with the consequence in term of balance sheet. We announced that this deal related to infrastructure -- so there are various activities for the coming years, we will continue to maximize the valorization of our portfolio. Our portfolio is continuing -- is a live animal, it's a living animal. It's added opportunity through exploration, through business through business development, business combination. And this means that there's opportunity to valorize part of that to reduce exposure to areas or regions that are no more core or eventually also to improve the validation of our transformation business. So I think that we proved that I remember the analysts were considering last year as the top of our disposal trial. I think that also we proved that this year, we have new ideas to put on the table. I think this will continue in the coming years, but will be part of the next 4-year plan.

Alessandro Pozzi analyst
#24

And what is the perimeter of the infrastructure deal? .

Francesco Gattei executive
#25

The infrastructure bill is a partnership that is working on a generic. It's not a specific set of assets. Infrastructure, you know that the upstream business has many kind of infrastructures. So the idea is not to build or identify a geography, a field or something that is well defined. Maisageneric description of a broader portfolio and creating a financial synthetic element that simulate the cash flow related to that infrastructure. And this is the way that we, let's say, created that has a potential to start more value from infrastructure that has a fixed return, why we would like to invest in double digit, high double-digit return on our upstream assets. .

Jon Rigby executive
#26

Thanks, Alessandro. We're going to move to Amit Bensalem. Are you there?

Ahmed Ben Salem analyst
#27

You mentioned the possible extraordinary dividend review what would trigger that decision? And if cash flow remains strong, would buyback still be your preferred way of returning excess cash to shareholders. Thank you.

Francesco Gattei executive
#28

We have set the rules for the excess dividend. So the rules are, if we are assuming in a full year, $90 brand scenario. Currently, we are at $91. So we are in the money for the dividend, excess dividend distribution. If we assume the 50% increase of refining margin and $9 is a trigger, and we are well above that number. And we assume it is a 50% on the EUR 36-megawatt hour that is -- that was the budget for TTS and it's 54% means that the 50% increase. So we will be above the 54% on average. And currently, we are probably in the range of 47%, 48%. So there will be a net dividends. So if we want to say, simulate with the current level of year-to-date price, there is an extra dividend. We will see in September how the market will evolve, which our expectation for the end of the year and clearly, how the company has performed in...

Claudio Descalzi executive
#29

Yes, but what we said, just to specify that in October, we had to take the decision, we're going to pay the extra dividend in the fourth quarter. So by December. So just to remember what is going to happen. It's not...

Francesco Gattei executive
#30

Yes. And we -- just another element, if we are clearly in that situation where there is an extra dividend, yet to consider there is probably also an extra buyback because if we enter in a higher price, there will be a ceiling up to EUR 4 billion, but we are currently at EUR 3.4 billion. but we saturate the 60% cash flow from operational distribution up to the limit, yes. .

Jon Rigby executive
#31

Great. Thanks, Francesco. Thanks, Amit. We're going to move to Michele Delvina at Goldman Sachs. Michele?

Michele Della Vigna analyst
#32

And again, congratulations on the strong results. Two questions. First, I wonder if you had any comment on the situation in Kazakhstan around the enforcement of this $5 billion environmental fine on cash again. And secondly, could you shed a bit more light on this Macquarie Eni global trading joint venture? What you expect it could contribute in the coming years and whether effectively GPP becomes part of the joint venture.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#33

Okay. I think for both, Kassandra we will go to answer and maybe I can add something, but I'm sure that we discover completely 2 questions.

Unknown Executive executive
#34

Okay. So let's start on arbitration and this ongoing arbitration, of course, first of all, let me clarify that the operator and all the shareholders in support -- I mean the operations have been conducted in compliance with a low of Kazakhstan. And then you see at all the permits required to do so. That's an important element that we always have to underline. However, the Republic of Kazakhstan through various instrumentalities and agencies that continue to pursue this sulfur fine and has also commenced some enforcement steps. Despite we have to say there is under the commercial arbitration under the PSA, which is ongoing. There was a restraining order from an international tribunal prohibiting the Republic to take any measure to enforce the fine and during the arbitration of course. And of course, the operator is continuing to challenge the sulfur fine. So including, of course, an international -- an investment trade arbitration, which is currently ongoing also in -- so the situation is, of course, ongoing. At the moment, they made some steps. But at the moment, they are on hold on any other kind of enforcement. And this is the current situation on Kazakhstan. As far as the trading, clearly, this is part of our transformation of the trading business. The trading business initially was more a kind of a business service provider in our corporation, then we became more a marketplace player, again, within the company. And then the third and last step was to merge with a pure trader to combine the best of the 2 worlds, to combine the variety, the diversified set of industrial assets the structural supply portfolio of corporate like Eni, very well diversified as Claudio you said, both in terms of business and geographies with the operational flexibility the systems of a pure player. Of course, I mean, it is a 50-50 JV and we expect in the long term that this JV and the trading activity will help to raise and lift our as by 1 or 2 percentage points. This is -- yes, of course, the cash flow per barrel and the overall result of the company.

Jon Rigby executive
#35

Thanks, Mikkel. We're now -- we're going to now move to Focus never Roth Charles and Redburn. -- gas .

Fergus Neve analyst
#36

Brilliant -- 2 questions, please. Just first on any live where the results were particularly strong this quarter, and it was great to see that feed through to the guidance upgrade. Could you just give us some color on the relative split of the results between the marketing business and the biofuels business this quarter? And perhaps also comment on how your biofuel margins have been looking so far in 3Q. And then secondly, just following up from the earlier refining question. So the assumption in the scenario for this has stepped up quite a bit for the second half for the overall number in the full year. I just wondered if you could give us some color on where the new kind of adjusted is SAT or has been tracking so far in July and perhaps some thoughts on how much of an uplift that might give to the business moving forward in the second half .

Claudio Descalzi executive
#37

Okay. So the first question for Stefan and the second 1 for in Stefan, anything as well. .

Unknown Executive executive
#38

Yes. No. Thank you for the question. Yes, the quarter has been very strong, and result has been driven by a step-up of the biorefinery performance. In terms of overall result out of the EUR 375 million EBITDA adjusted EUR 1 million as the rough number is around 35%, 40% contribution from the biorefinery. And this has been driven, yes, by the scenario improvement, significant improvement, but also actually by a very strong performance from the asset. If you look to the available asset, Chalmette and gain this quarter, overall utilization rate has been above 90%. And then on top, we put in place several optimization levers in order to extract all the value available. Moving forward, situation, it's going to proceed in that direction. Rational is given by the fact that this market scenario is underpinned by an increased demand. Demand for 2026 is foreseen around 20 million tonne versus the EUR 60 million of 2025. And this is due by the rollout of new regulation in Europe with the renewable energy directive, we got just a few days ago, Spain, again, confirming target moving from energy content to GAG reduction and banning double counting. And then on top in U.S., where we got in April a confirmation on the new target from the Environmental Protection Agency. And even if we look at the market as a whole, we saw that the flows from U.S. to Europe are pretty much dropping and this is because the value of both market is quite relevant and strong given what I said. So this is another strong signal moving forward.

Giuseppe Ricci executive
#39

Okay. out the same, what we are seeing now in July is a very, very high level, above $30 per barrel that is -- should remain very bullish in the next months because the combination of many factors, first of all, the storage is very, very low for all the product. There is a low refining capacity in operation. And we are in the driving season. The crack spread that we are seeing in gas oil, but also in the gasoline are very, very high, and there is also some premium to import the product. So what we expect in the next month is a very, very bullish period, and we are gaining of this because we are anticipating a shutdown of San azaro and Milarfinery. There main capacity and conversion refinery that we have. We -- the third refinery return as planned, the shutdown for maintenance in September, but we are moving this shutdown for a couple of months in order to gain all the period.

Jon Rigby executive
#40

Very good. Thanks, Gino. We're now going to move to Paul Redman BNP Pariba Paul. .

Paul Redman analyst
#41

I had one question on strategy, and that was just around the 320 service stations you recently acquired in Europe. I just want to understand the strategic rationale for buying fuel stations today, but also what the impact could be on earnings from the deal? And then secondly, you guide to underlying improvement in your cash flow from operations of EUR 700 million this year. I wanted to ask what are the key drivers of that underlying improvement.

Francesco Gattei executive
#42

About the acquisition in Central Europe, mainly Germany and Denmark. This is part of the strategy of expanding our Eni Live marketing activity. Eni Live has already exposure to marketing in the country in Germany. That is the second country as a number of stations. So this is a good opportunity to buy a second tire brand that could be improved in us in terms of valorization thanks to our clearly branding possibility to add shopping and convenience stores and benefiting also of local logistics support from our Germany refinery participation. We have 2 participation in 2 plants in Germany. The contribution. This is an asset that is generating in the range of EUR 40 million, EUR 50 million for EBITDA. In terms of cash flow from operation improvement, cash flow from ratio improvement is related to all the improvement that we mentioned during this conference. Production growth, upstream production growth, cash flow per barrel related to that growth. Opportunity and growth generated by GGP and Eni Live benefit improvement that we mentioned to scenario and plant availability. All these elements are contributor major contributor of the cash flow revised guidance.

Jon Rigby executive
#43

Thanks, Paul. We're going to now move to NASH at Barclays, Nash. .

Naisheng Cui analyst
#44

Two questions, please. The first one is on downstream. Both Eni Live and Planet continue to improve profitability and outlook has improved, too, especially on Eni Live. I wonder, does this change your view or your partners strategic over those business? And my second question is on upstream. You have a very busy upstream growth pipeline, 54 organic group projects, as you mentioned. Could you talk about what has done right to progress in time and under budget. Are you worry about future CapEx cost inflation, please?

Francesco Gattei executive
#45

On the view about the Eni Live and planet, I think that this business confirm the model, the way we generate, we created this business that are putting together renewable content and transition content plus retailer and therefore, marketing outcome. This reinforced the possibility to navigate through the cycles. You saw in this business, different cycle happen now because sometimes there are improvements, then there is a slowdown, et cetera, but through -- the combination of these 2 elements, we are able to manage in any case, this kind of trend. We have a stronger balance sheet in each of them. So we have the possibility to use the generational cash on one side of the retailer in order to supply the growth of the renewable side. And therefore, I think this is a confirmation that what we set up in the last 4 or 5 years related to these 2 businesses and the partnership that recognize the value of that is effective and working. This also helped us to have a faster view towards a potential IPO that is the final goal for each of them.

Guido Brusco executive
#46

On our pipeline of projects, a couple of things. First of all, we proved in the past, as Claudio said, that we've been able to manage a project within cost and within budget. And we've been able also to run multiple projects. Just to remind, last year, we've started up 5 major projects. So we demonstrated that we are able to handle quite a large number of projects. Because of our fast track model, which is designed for that. It's designed to run parallel activity is designed also to have quite a high degree of on-hand features. We have an engineering company into the corporation, which is helpful in this kind of projects. . As far as concerned the inflation, you are right. I mean, the inflation, especially after -- the inflation was already in the region of 3% to 4%, 2026 to 2025. And after the Middle East conflicts, the range is becoming more 4% to 6% because of the, of course, cost of the fuel and the dislocation of the market. But to ensure cost discipline and schedule reliability across the project on top of this designed fast-track model, we are also an integrated procurement strategy, which allowed us to expand the supply chain into new frontier markets, strengthened strategic partnership through master framework agreement and also applying some refined tendering approach. -- consider that most of the contract for the project, we are talking about are already locked in before the crisis of the Middle East.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#47

I want to add something about what we'll say because we are in this situation today because strategically, we built the company in that way. When 15 years ago, everybody were outsourcing, we in-sourced. It was against the mainstream against the trendy situation of 20, 15 years ago, people prefer to reduce risk going through M&A, but we decided to in-source. We decide with it to create an engineering company. We decided to be specialized in the expiration. And then we decided to be specialized in the development becoming the main contractors and moving the different package. So when you talk about cost, to be able to contain cost, you must have the skills to control your activities. In each single step, if we are not able to control your activity, you can use the best model you want, you are not able to control your cost. If you beat your project, you are able, if you build your company with this purpose, you are able to do that. And not only we demonstrated, but was our strategy. And when we present this kind of strategy more than 15, 16 years ago, people was surprised because we were not following the trend in exploration and everything. But that now, I think that we are in the best position to not just find new exploration resources but be able to develop, be able to control our costs, be able to give the right guidance to our contractors.

Jon Rigby executive
#48

Thanks, Nash. I'm conscious I said we've closed at the top of the hour, but I'm going to take my contingency and go to [indiscernible]. We may not get around to everybody's asking questions. So I apologize for that, and you can follow up later. We're now going to move to Henry Tarr at Berenberg. Henry? .

Henry Tarr analyst
#49

I have 2. One is you have several projects obviously underway currently in the UAE and in Qatar. Is there any indication of the impact so far of the Hormoz disruption on these projects? I guess sort of following on from the cost question. And then secondly, the sites in transformation, I guess, costs have been running at sort of EUR 50 million a quarter through the first half. Is that a sensible indication for the second half?

Guido Brusco executive
#50

On the first one, the answer is very short. There's no, no impact on the project, most of the activity, the manpower and material were already in country, and so it's progressing and this is both in Qatar and of course, in UAE.

Francesco Gattei executive
#51

Yes. About the sites in transformation, this is already a flat trend, a steady quarterly trend that we -- instead, we expect them to decline in the next years because clearly, you reduce the amount of activity that had to be transformed. .

Jon Rigby executive
#52

Thanks, Henry. I'm going to move now to Alzheimer Citi Group. Al? .

Alastair Syme analyst
#53

Can I just return to the question on Venezuela. I mean, -- can you give us some color about what you're looking in terms of the ways of protecting your investment? I mean clearly, there's a big potential, but there's also quite a big investment. So is it a service agreement or PSC? What's sort of fiscal structure is it and then I had a second question because actually Basal on Fusion. I saw this quarter, you signed this fusion fuels agreement in the U.K. Obviously, you've got CFS starting up in Boston next year. Can you talk about what you said in the next couple of years infusion looks like? Should we get getting very excited about it?

Claudio Descalzi executive
#54

Foretell. I think that we already said before that, that is a different kind of contract. So it's more likely a more likely PSC or something like that. But this kind of -- I talk about Konica 5 is the main topic. So Perla, no problem, we can export. CoroCoro is good. But it's good, can give a contribution by the small. But the big contributor, we talked about really a big contribution because it's almost EUR 5 billion or EUR 6 billion gross recoverable resources is coming from this field. This field is mainly a drilling because it's a shallow reservoir, 1,000 feet. So you can imagine what we do or what people do in the lower 48 impairment very fast really and then you recover. So you invest your core, you invest your core is not really. It's standard upstream project where you have to invest for 4 or 5 years or 3 years, what you want. And then you start recovering. So you have a lot of inactive capital and big exposure. In this case, it's more new operational operating, sorry, operating spending. So that is already. So the structure of the business is really give you a protection because it's a very fast recovery. Clearly, you have to invest, yes, you have to continue investing. The depletion rate is not the same or the permit is much better. I mean drainage area is quite good. So that also is very heavy, that continue to produce also for some time without big depletion. But we have so the contract from 1 side is not in prison Mist. Clearly, we are not going to -- we are not going to invest with the old contract. And from the other side, the kind of E&P project that protect you from exposure in our CapEx. I don't know what I want to say something, no. Okay. So talking about Fusion rental that is our directory Head of our -- all the technological service R&D and is in charge of Fusion, maybe he can spend some work.

Guido Brusco executive
#55

Thank you, Claudio. Just to give you -- provide you an update for CFS. The activity is going very well. We are at the final stage of construction. We are physically assembling the machine. We are more than 75% of advancements. So we are very confident by next year, beginning of 2028, machine will be ready, and then we will start up decommissioning to reach the positive Q greater than 1, let's Considering the activity in U.K., we have signed an agreement with the U.K. EA, which is the nuclear agency. We are building a machine plant to treat treating. We are in the range of the 30% advancement. And recently, like you currently said, we create a private company called we aim to commercialize these technologies and so to become also an opportunity for industrial purposes. So activities are going very well in this direction.

Jon Rigby executive
#56

Thanks, Lorenzo. Thanks, Al. We're going to now move and I think this will have to be the last question too, and I apologize to those still waiting. Maybe we can talk to you later. So this will be to Matt Lofting at JPMorgan, Matt. .

Matthew Lofting analyst
#57

Congratulations to you all on a very strong update this morning. I wanted to just ask you about Latin America as a portfolio hub. You talked about Venezuela earlier, but when you look at the content as a whole, it looks like it's becoming increasingly important to the diversification strategy and growth profile that you've talked about over the last or so. So can you just expand there in terms of the extent to which that's becoming more significant to Eni as you look forward to 2030 plus and how you think about best structuring investments in that part of the world in order to optimize investment paybacks.

Guido Brusco executive
#58

Yes. As we already said also in the capital market update back in March, if you look at the production distribution at 2030, South America will play a significant role in our share of production mainly from, of course, Argentina, Venezuela, but also Mexico. In Mexico, we are running at 95,000 barrel of oil equivalent per day, and we are the largest international producer. The 2 assets -- I mean, the asset in Venezuela, we have described already, Claudio gave some interesting features on Argentina. We are talking of a world-class basin 25 Tcf, EUR 500 million of condensate, which makes 4.8 billion barrel of oil to be recovered. We have an estimated production at peak at around 550,000 barrels of oil equivalent, of which 200 liquids and the remaining is LNG for export. . And this is the, I would say, the inventory of the reserves already discovered then to be developed. We are also expanding our exploration portfolio. We have we have acquired blocks in Uruguay, which is a very, I would say, promising basin and soon, we will update you also on our plans in Uruguay. As far as the financial structure on Venezuela, Claudio already said, which will be our setup. In Argentina, we are in partnership with YPF, the National Oil Company and -- and this will be an incorporated venture, which will manage all the value chain from the upstream to the midstream up to the export. The export is on an equity equity-like basis from all the -- from at least to international shareholders.

Claudio Descalzi executive
#59

Thank you, done, just to add something from in perspective. we talk about energy rate. So we really -- we have to increase production in and find energy. And the situation is quite different with respect to what happened 10 years ago, 5 years ago, only or 10 years ago. We have Russia. We have all the goals. Now what was certain a few years ago now is no more certain. And we lost some country where we can go there and buy energy, Russia, okay, they produce. They're still pursue, but we are not now this or to Qatar to other. In the future, we are going to have again, I hope so. But in many case, we need more energy. And the race to energy now is different because there is no country where you can go there and buy energy. You had to go there and explore. You have to go there and develop. You have to go there and put in production. And then you can have your energy. So not just diversification. If you say that we need just diversification, you are superficial. You must have the skill to go there and find your resources and stay on the value chain. So that is very -- is a different pipeline. So the world is changing. It's no more a question of buying stuff and sell stuff. We are not in the commercial or just trading. You must be in the industrial situation where you're able to explore, develop and produce. This is really something going back to the basis -- maybe yes, but that is the iteration of today. Diversification is not enough. You must do the work from the beginning to the end, if you want to win this energy rise. Thank you very much.

Jon Rigby executive
#60

Thank you, Matt, for that question. I'm going to wrap the Q&A up right now. So again, apologies to those who weren't able to ask a question, do please follow up with the Investor Relations team. I'm going to say good luck for the rest of the reporting season, and please do enjoy a nice holiday period, and we look forward to seeing you in September. Bye.

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