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Exchange Income Corporation (EIF) Earnings Call Transcript

May 12, 2026

Toronto Stock Exchange CA Industrials Passenger Airlines earnings 89 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator operator
#1

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Exchange Income Corporation's conference call for the first quarter, where we'll discuss the financial results for the three months ended March 31st, 2026. The Corporation's results, which include the MD&A and financial statements, came out on May 11th, 2026, and you can access them right now on the company's website or through SEDAR+. Before we hand the call over to management, listeners should be aware that today's presentation and any responses to questions may include forward-looking statements as defined under the safe harbour provisions of Canadian provincial securities laws. Such forward-looking statements carry risks and uncertainties, and you shouldn't place undue reliance on them. In making forward-looking statements, certain material factors or assumptions are applied, and actual results could differ materially from those expressed or implied in those statements. If you'd like more information on factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from expectations, and on the material factors or assumptions applied in making forward-looking statements, please consult the quarterly and annual MD&A as well as the Risk Factors section of the annual information form and EIC's other filings with Canadian securities regulators. Except as required by Canadian securities law, EIC does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements. Such statements speak only as of the date made.

Operator operator
#2

I'd also like to remind everyone listening that this call is being recorded and streamed live over the internet for the benefit of individual shareholders, analysts, and other interested parties. At this point, I'll hand things over to Exchange Income Corporation's CEO, Mike Pyle. Mr. Pyle, the floor is yours.

Mike Pyle executive
#3

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, and I appreciate everyone joining us on today's call. Richard Wowryk is here with me, and he'll walk through our financial results, while Jake Trainor and Travis Muhr will go into more detail on our outlook. We released our first quarter results for fiscal 2026 yesterday. Across the board, our performance during the period was exceptionally strong. These results once again show how important our resilient and stable business model is. On the macro side, the quarter brought volatility, heavy geopolitical activity and trade uncertainty, and fuel prices climbing quickly — and even so, our businesses posted records on every key metric. Even more encouraging was the momentum our business lines built as we came out of the quarter. We saw considerable strength in virtually every one of our business lines. A strong Q1 with momentum that is accelerating gives me a lot of confidence in updating our guidance. We left our goalposts for the quarter unchanged at $825 to $875, but we now expect to land near the upper end of that range, which is a very positive signal. If the current strength holds, we may revisit the top end of the range in future quarters.

Mike Pyle executive
#4

Turning to our balance sheet, we took important steps that made it even stronger. In the quarter, we made public our investment grade corporate credit rating and sold $600 million in unsecured notes carrying a 4.324% rate. Our original plan was a $400 million issuance, yet because demand proved so strong, we increased the size of the offering to $600 million. Those notes came to market on March 13th, right in the middle of the geopolitical conflict with Iran. The combination of when we issued and the demand we saw offers outside confirmation of our business model and of how dependable the results are that we discuss every quarter and at year-end. When the year closed, we held more than $2 billion of available liquidity. That liquidity matters to how our business model works, since it lets us move decisively when appealing opportunities come along, whether for acquisitions or for capital investment in organic growth. I don't want Adam and his team to be boxed in by market conditions or to face deal execution risk. Still, to be clear, this extra capital does not alter our conservative stance on leverage, nor does it change our disciplined acquisition metrics and strategies. Instead, having that liquidity available lets us be remarkably opportunistic in the marketplace.

Mike Pyle executive
#5

Leverage remains at or close to lows we haven't seen in 15 years, and the five-year unsecured notes give us meaningful real cash interest savings relative to the swap rates available. On top of that, if you look at today's yield curves, those savings become even larger. EIC stands out as a clear illustration of a diversified, resilient business navigating uncertain periods and still thriving. Overall results were powered by revenue rising 30% to $867 million for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA climbed 27% to $166 million. Those gains look even stronger once you factor in the translation effect of US dollar results, which fell roughly 5% year-over-year. Within our Aerospace and Aviation segment, the improvement came from the Canadian North and Mach 2 acquisitions, higher passenger loads, solid medevac performance, fleet growth investments, stronger tempo flying under our ISR contracts, and a second aircraft added to the UK Home Office contract. Canadian North keeps delivering the profitability we expected and is culturally a strong match with our other air operators. Maintenance capital expenditures stayed elevated during the first quarter and will continue at elevated levels through the next quarter or two.

Mike Pyle executive
#6

That said, this was anticipated and had already been shared with the market. Demand remains strong in our aircraft sales and leasing business, and rental rates for leased aircraft and engines keep rising. Parts sales and whole aircraft sales remain very strong as well, and we completed significant aircraft monetization in the first quarter through opportunistic sales. There has been considerable news coverage of airlines changing schedules in reaction to jet fuel prices, which were pushed up by supply-related uncertainty connected to Iran and other geopolitical events. To date, the customers who lease our aircraft and engines have not been materially affected. Management is monitoring the market proactively and engaging with customers to manage any risk. That said, volatility in the market also opens up several opportunities for our business line, and we stand ready to act on any opportunistic transactions that could arise from parts purchases or from buying engines or aircraft. Finally, we keep receiving strong inbound interest from governments worldwide in our world-class ISR capabilities. We announced recently that our proposed ISR bid in Australia was not selected. We have not gotten detailed feedback on our submission, nor have we received confirmation of who the successful bidder was.

Mike Pyle executive
#7

Like I said before, the Australia contract is merely one among numerous deals we had been actively chasing. With that said, we were thrilled to report that the Air Greenland contract, covering 2 missionized surveillance aircraft, is close to being finalized. That deal came about as a direct-source opportunity, and the PAL Aerospace team worked diligently to lock in the project, building on a relationship with Air Greenland that goes back a long way. The Air Greenland agreement stands as one of several solutions our team has been actively chasing. We keep going after multiple other opportunities across Canada and Europe. We stay confident in our solutions and in what we put forward both nationally and internationally, and we'll share updates once information becomes available. From a revenue and profitability standpoint, our manufacturing segment was down. Still, if you look beneath the hood, the real story emerges. Momentum was the defining theme for the manufacturing segment in the first quarter, and that momentum was achieved across both the Environmental Access Solutions and Precision Manufacturing and Engineering business lines. Near the end of the quarter and after the quarter closed, we saw customer inquiries convert into firm fixed orders, along with record order amounts at some of the individual businesses. To illustrate, our stainless steel tank manufacturer booked its largest ever order for stainless steel tanks destined for a data farm in the United States.

Mike Pyle executive
#8

That order was roughly double the size of the biggest single order they had ever received before across their lengthy and successful history. At the Canadian operations, our Environmental Access Solutions business kept experiencing incremental gains in the count of mats on rent as the quarter came to a close. For our US operations, the backlog of demand for composite mats is still exceptionally strong, and most of the production capacity we currently have is committed through 2026. Construction of the second state-of-the-art plant, located in Saltillo, Mississippi, is moving forward on schedule and within budget. This facility will substantially expand our manufacturing capacity, enabling us to satisfy demand for the best-in-class composite mats. Looking at the wider industry, many announcements have come out about transmission and distribution expansion, together with possible new pipelines and oil and gas development. Over the longer term, we perceive considerable tailwinds for the business line and stay very bullish on their business getting back to the historical highs we saw in 2022. Our Multi-Story Window business line softened in line with what we had expected. We are noticing a few encouraging signals from various levels of government when they discuss accelerating approvals and lowering development fees. Demand for affordable housing persists, and we are achieving some successes across various geographies throughout North America.

Mike Pyle executive
#9

But the hangover from an imbalance between supply and demand—one caused by condo development in Toronto and Vancouver that was aimed at investors—is still with us. Tariffs have affected us as well in the year-over-year comparatives. The size of those tariffs isn't material to EIC as a whole, though it comes to under $10 million on an annualized basis. While we expected a slowdown in our business, our teams have carried out key initiatives: shrinking the physical footprint of our manufacturing operations, improving efficiencies inside the plants, and aligning our capabilities in Canada and the US—and all of these are now virtually complete. Once demand inevitably picks up, we'll be able to make more windows at a lower cost. I continue to have a lot of confidence in this business line. As we get back to historical norms down the road, the added revenue and profitability will drop straight to the bottom line, since all of the investments are already made—except for investment in working capital when sales rise. Rich will go over the key metrics for the three months ended March 31st, but before I hand the call over, I wanted to address the additions at the C-suite level and at head office. My mantra for EIC has always been that culture isn't the most important thing; it's the only thing.

Mike Pyle executive
#10

EIC’s culture is really one of a kind, and preserving it far into the future matters for us to keep succeeding. Bringing Carm, Marley, and Garth onto the executive team is significant, since they grasp what has made EIC successful and will assist us in growing and expanding. Each of the three has spent a number of years at EIC and ranks among our top performers. We welcome them into the executive ranks, and they will keep driving the EIC culture as we carry on the growth trajectory that has enabled us to deliver a 20% return per annum for shareholders across the past 21 years. Beyond that, Travis and Darwin have taken on broader responsibilities in the C-suite. Jake and Travis will concentrate on the outlook for our segments for the second quarter and the rest of the year. I’ll now hand the call to Rich, who will discuss several of the key highlights from the MD&A and financial statements.

Richard Wowryk executive
#11

Thanks, Mike, and good morning to everyone. Turning to the first quarter, we posted revenue of $867 million, adjusted EBITDA of $166 million, and free cash flow of $120 million. Free cash flow less maintenance CapEx came in at $41 million. Adjusted net earnings were $34 million and net earnings were $28 million, reflecting rises of 139% and 287%, respectively. On a per-share basis, earnings were 50 cents and adjusted net earnings per share were 61 cents, up 257% and 118%, respectively. Free cash flow per share rose 33% to $2.14, and free cash flow less maintenance CapEx climbed 46% to 73 cents per share. Those per-share gains look even stronger when you consider that weighted average shares outstanding grew 11% versus the prior quarter, largely because of convertible debentures converted in 2025 and acquisitions we completed. Every absolute key performance indicator reached a first-quarter record. Results in Aerospace and Aviation were powered by solid profitability across each business line, thanks to the Canadian North and Mach 2 acquisitions, robust load factors at our various air operators, healthy demand for leases, parts, and whole aircraft and engines in our aircraft sales and leasing business line, and the contribution of the second aircraft for the UK Home Office in aerospace, which began in the fourth quarter of 2025, together with higher tempo flying across various ISR contracts.

Richard Wowryk executive
#12

Revenue and profitability in our manufacturing segment both declined, yet, as Mike mentioned, momentum built as the quarter drew to a close and kept gaining strength after it ended. Within our Canadian Environmental Access Solutions operations, mats on rent delivered strong results. Profitability, though, came in similar to the prior year, since 2025 included strong demobilization and mat movement operations that were unusual given the business's normal seasonality. In our US operations, demand for composite matting solutions stayed robust. Those accelerating demand trends — strengthening Canadian rentals and strong US composite sales — carried on after quarter-end. During the quarter, we spent $2.5 million in growth capital expenditures on the new US composite mat manufacturing plant. That project remains on time and on budget against the estimated $60 million budget. Our Multi-Story Window solution business line kept moderating as expected. This moderation ties to past project delays and deferrals stemming from developer uncertainty. Our teams have finished initiatives that will raise efficiency at the plant. Affordable housing remains a theme, and once volumes ramp back up, we will be positioned to produce more windows at a lower cost than our prior operations.

Richard Wowryk executive
#13

Precision Manufacturing and Engineering's first quarter saw results and activities pick up increasing steam as the quarter came to a close. Although the first-quarter figures came in fairly in line with the prior-year comparison, enthusiasm across the group has never been higher, thanks to substantial customer orders booked late in the quarter and carrying into the second quarter. Maintenance capital expenditures totaled $79 million in the first quarter, running $23 million above the comparative period, driven by the addition of Canadian North, greater utilization of the aircraft sales and leasing fleet, and an overall expansion of fleet size in our Aerospace and Aviation segment. Growth capital expenditures came to $40 million during the first quarter, mainly reflecting three King Air aircraft deliveries for the BCEHS contract in our Essential Air Services, together with investments tied to the expanded commercial agreement with Air Canada, and aircraft modifications and other investments for the Newfoundland and Labrador medevac contract. On the cash flow and working capital front, we delivered a very strong result, since the working capital investment was nominal relative to the growth in our financial results. The Corporation's aggregate leverage continues to sit near historic lows.

Richard Wowryk executive
#14

In the quarter, we shared that EIC received an investment grade corporate rating — BBB Low with a stable outlook — from DBRS. A $600 million bond issuance took place, heavily oversubscribed, carrying an interest rate of 4.324%, delivering meaningful interest savings versus alternative financing products, such as five years money obtained via interest rate swaps when we issued. Given the additional rise in risk-free rates, those savings are even larger now. With more than $2 billion of liquidity available, we hold substantial dry powder for acquisitions and for investing in our existing businesses to drive future growth. For EIC, having that liquidity on hand matters greatly, since it allows us to act as an opportunistic buyer while reducing deal execution risk for Adam and his team. Our approach to acquisitions and growth capital investments remains the same, yet a robust balance sheet plus access to financing lets us complete sizeable transactions whenever opportunities come up. Our M&A pipeline is still very strong. In the first quarter, Adam and his team completed a strategic investment with Mach 2. Diversifying our cash flows and giving Regional One another path to growth has long been our goal. Regional One has established data infrastructure and architecture able to scale into additional aircraft types, and now, with the Canadian North 737 data plus narrowbody and widebody data from Mach 2, together with the seasoned personnel at Mach 2, we can capture significant opportunities in that area.

Richard Wowryk executive
#15

With 737 and narrowbody operations, we hold the biggest aftermarket parts and leasing business globally, which gives us a distinctive chance to draw on our strengths and generate significant returns for that line well into the future. Regarding further acquisition prospects, our pipeline contains opportunities across both segments that resemble our current businesses. Our foundation of businesses is strong, and whenever we identify ancillary chances to widen our competitive moats, those accretive opportunities always draw our interest. As a reminder about seasonality in our business, the first quarter is our slowest on a seasonal basis, reflecting winter roads and weather-related effects on our air operators, together with softer demand in our Environmental Access Solutions business line in Canada, since frozen ground needs less matting protection. Activity across our businesses peaks in the third quarter, while the second and fourth quarters would come close to the year's average. A solid foundation for the rest of the year was laid in the first quarter. I'll now hand the call to Jake, who will give an update on the second quarter and the rest of 2026 for the Aerospace and Aviation segment.

Jake Trainor executive
#16

Thanks, Rich. All in all, we anticipate yet another year of robust expansion in our Aerospace and Aviation segment, since the patterns Mike and Rich described are projected to persist across fiscal 2026. The growth investments we made previously — among them the second aircraft for the UK Home Office, the Mach 2 acquisition, the launch of the Newfoundland and Labrador medevac contract halfway through 2026, and the broadening of the Air Canada commercial agreement — will each add to higher revenues and improved profitability. I'll zero in on the growth drivers by business line. Within our Essential Air Service business line, growth will come from a wide range of factors relative to the earlier period. The largest effect will come from bringing Canadian North in for the second quarter, with nothing comparable in the prior year. We also anticipate that the robust load factors seen in Q1, along with growth throughout our network, will carry on in the second quarter and for the rest of the year. Additional gains include the broadening and extension of the Air Canada commercial agreement, under which the aircraft will begin flying partway through the year. Finally, we look for further growth in our medevac business, among them the launch of the Newfoundland and Labrador medevac contract, which is expected to begin operations in mid-2026.

Jake Trainor executive
#17

Continued inflationary pressure on labor, aircraft parts, consumables, and costs overall offsets part of those gains. We expect the aerospace business line to grow, driven by sustained strong flying tempos in the second quarter and through the rest of the year, plus the financial contribution of the second aircraft for the UK Home Office, which will create quarter-on-quarter effects since that aircraft began operations in the fourth quarter of 2025. As Mike said, we're enthusiastic about what we're doing with Air Greenland and the Danish government. Building on our relationship with Air Greenland, they have chosen us as their missionization partners. Some details remain to be settled with the Danish government once it is formed, but we are planning a surveillance program with two aircraft, complete with an integrated ground centre built on CarteNav's AIMS-C4 mission system. Clearly subject to sovereign negotiations, this presents an exciting opportunity in which much of the Arctic and North Atlantic is now covered by nations that use the CarteNav system. What I'm trying to illustrate is a picture in which Canada, Greenland, the UK, and the Netherlands in the North Sea environment are covered by the CarteNav system, operating for friendly nations. That concept aligns directly with our Prime Minister's message of collective defence, shared security, and resilience alongside other Arctic and Nordic nations.

Jake Trainor executive
#18

Beyond that, we are actively pursuing several opportunities that are emerging across Canada, Europe, the US, and Asia. Growth is also anticipated in our aircraft sales and leasing business, since the investments in aircraft and engines made during 2025 are being leased out to customers. As Mike mentioned, fuel shortages could pose a potential risk to our lessees. So far, though, we are not aware of any material impacts. History has demonstrated that volatility in the aviation market does create unique opportunities wherever it occurs. Aircraft sales and leasing continues to be an opportunistic buyer and is ready to complete transactions that are accretive to our portfolio. Demand for Regional One and Mach 2 remains robust, as shown by rising lease rates and shortages of critical parts throughout the industry, and we expect that trend to continue. Over the long term, we expect maintenance capital expenditures to rise consistently with increases in adjusted EBITDA in our Aerospace and Aviation segment, which is the largest driver of our consolidated maintenance CapEx. We anticipate an increase over Q2 2025 owing to the inclusion of Canadian North, combined with increased flying from our recent investment in aircraft over the past few years.

Jake Trainor executive
#19

To wrap up, we're still putting money into deferred maintenance at Canadian North, and we expect that spending to carry on through 2026. Growth capital expenditures are anticipated in the second quarter as well as across the rest of fiscal 2026. We expect to take delivery of the final King Air for the BCEHS contract sometime around June or July this year. CapEx will be tied to modifying aircraft for the Newfoundland and Labrador medevac contract, plus acquiring aircraft for the expanded commercial agreement with Air Canada, both during the second quarter. Regional One is continuously pursuing opportunistic purchases of aircraft and engines, which could lead to growth investments in the aircraft sales and leasing business. At this point I'll hand things over to Travis for some commentary on the manufacturing segment.

Travis Muhr executive
#20

Thanks, Jake. From a manufacturing standpoint for the second quarter and the rest of 2026, we observed considerable momentum across our business lines, as Mike mentioned in his opening remarks. On both revenue and profitability, we anticipate Q2 manufacturing results will be stronger, and that pattern should persist through the balance of the year. Inquiries remain robust in our Multi-Story Window business line. As anticipated, performance has eased during 2026, and on a relative basis that should carry on all year against the comparative periods. Tariffs had an effect on Q1 2026 relative to the 2025 comparative. Worth noting is that the US government's recently announced changes to tariff calculation methods will mean extra costs for goods shipped from Canada into the US. The previous basis was aluminum content; the new basis is the value of goods shipped. Our ability to manufacture windows in the US lets us mitigate those tariffs. We're beginning to hear encouraging comments from various levels of government about spurring affordable housing development via reduced or frozen development charges and quicker approval processes. Additionally, positive signals keep emerging in several regions across the US and in Western Canada.

Travis Muhr executive
#21

But builders are still holding back because there’s too much supply of condo units aimed at small investors, particularly in Toronto and Vancouver. For the second quarter and the rest of the year, our Environmental Access Solutions business line should deliver stronger returns. As we closed out the quarter, we kept seeing step-based gains in the count of mats on rent, demand for composite matting is still robust, and the plant is still running at maximum capacity with the vast majority of 2026 output already sold. Our Canadian operations are poised to be a major driver for the business, since we began to see strong results in the fourth quarter from a rental perspective, and that carried on through the first quarter of 2026 and will carry on into the second quarter. Additionally, we expect long linear projects to get underway in the latter half of 2026 or into early 2027 across several industries, including transmission and distribution, pipeline, and oil and gas. The medium and longer term prospects for the business are very robust, because there will be material investments in transmission and distribution across North America owing to growing electricity demands from homes, vehicles, and more importantly, AI and data farms.

Travis Muhr executive
#22

For the second quarter and the rest of the year, we expect the Precision Manufacturing and Engineering business line to show improvement on both revenue and profitability, and that's thanks to the significant momentum we've built. This line is quite diversified — it has exposure to the defence industry and to technology industries, which include data farms and telecommunications — and those particular industries are what's driving the growth vectors for this line. As Mike mentioned, certain of these businesses have been getting record forward bookings, and that's going to drive the year-over-year results for the balance of 2026. We expect anticipated maintenance capital expenditures to come in higher than the prior year, driven by the timing of replacement activities given the demand profile for the business line. We also anticipate growth CapEx being incurred across each of the business lines, though those should stay relatively consistent with 2025, with the exception of Environmental Access Solutions. Growth capital expenditures will be outlayed for the new state-of-the-art composite plant, along with further investment in the Canadian rental fleet based on expected market demand. I'll now pass the call back to Mike.

Mike Pyle executive
#23

Thanks. We got off to a really solid start in the first quarter of 2026, and because of that I've been able to revise our guidance up toward the top end of the range we shared earlier. My confidence in what lies ahead for this company is very high. EIC sits right where several important themes and trends come together. We've stayed faithful to our principles and to our business strategies, and those are what will keep fueling our success over the long term. Thanks for spending time with us this morning; at this point we'd like to take questions. Operator?

Operator operator
#24

Thanks. We’re moving into a question-and-answer portion now. Should you wish to ask something, press star and then the number one on your touchtone phone. A prompt will tell you that your hand has been raised, and we’ll poll questions according to the sequence in which they arrive. If you’re on a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before you press any keys. Give us a moment, please, while we take the first question. Thank you — the first question is from Matthew Lee at Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Matthew Lee analyst
#25

Hey everyone.

Mike Pyle executive
#26

Morning — appreciate you having me.

Matthew Lee analyst
#27

Thanks for letting me ask. Morning, everyone. I realize it's on the early side for this kind of discussion, but considering the momentum you're seeing in A&A and the fact that manufacturing ought to get better sequentially each quarter, has there been any talk among you about lifting that guidance past the $875 range? Is that simply conservatism, or is there something I'm overlooking?

Mike Pyle executive
#28

Are there bugs hidden in our office, Matt? There was quite a bit of debate over the correct figure for our guidance. Ultimately, we chose to shift our guidance toward the upper end of the range while leaving the range itself unchanged. That decision had a very simple rationale. Uncertainty in Iran is producing jumps and starts in oil supply as well as in oil prices. Although it has not affected our Regional One business so far, and we see nothing imminent, we did not want to raise our target and then face something dramatic there, which would force us to bring it back down. You're exactly right. The trends you're seeing in our business, it isn't difficult to add up to a number above $875. We'll promise that once the world situation settles down just a little bit.

Matthew Lee analyst
#29

Appreciate that. My understanding is that you typically pass fuel costs through. If so, what would be the largest risk area that might keep you from hitting or beating that $875, and which businesses do you figure would feel it most?

Mike Pyle executive
#30

You've got it exactly right, Matt. Honestly, higher fuel prices barely affect our business at all. We can pass those costs along to our customers, and since what we provide is an essential service, demand stays roughly the same even with fuel price surcharges. Our main worry, I'd say, would be fuel shortages becoming severe enough in some regions of the world that planes stop flying or fly less often — that would cut demand for parts. It's really more about fuel supply in certain parts of the world. In North America, a potential fuel shortage isn't really a concern. We produce enough in North America to take care of ourselves. We don't view that as a problem. It's more of a potential worldwide aviation issue if fuel were to run short.

Jake Trainor executive
#31

Matt, Jake here. Just remember that Regional One has aircraft leased all over the world. That's where the exposure lies. Right.

Mike Pyle executive
#32

Just to be clear, up to this point we haven't run into any problems.

Jake Trainor executive
#33

Correct. We aren't seeing any sign of that — it's really just us being conservative.

Matthew Lee analyst
#34

That’s useful, everyone. I appreciate that. I’ll hand it over.

Operator operator
#35

Much appreciated, and the following question is from Steve Hansen at Raymond James. You have the floor.

Mike Pyle executive
#36

Hi there, Steve.

Steve Hansen analyst
#37

Morning, everyone, and thanks for making time. Mike, I'd like to revisit what you said about momentum building in manufacturing. You and Travis, I think, offered some solid perspective on that, and record orders came up at one point. My specific question is: what do you believe is behind that? And I suppose the larger question is whether you see it holding up for the rest of the year. The outlook remarks appeared to point that way. I'm simply hoping to grasp the drivers underneath a bit more clearly, and perhaps you could add a little extra context on how things look from where customers sit. Thanks.

Mike Pyle executive
#38

Sure. What's fascinating is that, leaving windows out of it, this trend shows up everywhere in our manufacturing footprint. Within matting, the US market is plainly being propelled by transmission and distribution. Utilities need more capacity, and we're only at the very start of that. It will continue for years — possibly decades. I'm not at all worried about how long-lasting it is. In Canada, we're likely about a year and a half behind the US, and those projects are beginning to appear, especially in Eastern Canada. Hardly a day passes without talk of a new pipeline — whether it's the US President discussing pipeline expansion down there, or us heading to the coast with natural gas or bitumen. That's really robust. And when we look at some of our other manufacturers, such as our stainless business, it never previously played any part in data centres. Suddenly, the farms being built are so big that they require actual refrigerant. They used to be cooled with air; now water is what cools them. We're receiving enormous orders to handle that. We've actually reached a point where we're sharing production capacity, since our existing plants can't keep pace, so the window companies have shared some space in both Canada and the US with our manufacturing teams so we can meet the demand.

Mike Pyle executive
#39

You're seeing the same thing at our precision metal operation in Ontario, Ben Machine. They're producing components with extremely tight tolerances, and space demand is what's driving it — believe it or not. We're making satellite equipment. It spans everything, and what's interesting is that it keeps speeding up — it's not as if things were already good. Honestly, back in January, I felt it was somewhat sluggish, and I had some worry about our manufacturing business, apart from matting. That has been strong throughout the year. From that point on, it's been one thing after another, and we're scrambling to locate sufficient equipment and sufficient geography in which to place that equipment.

Travis Muhr executive
#40

Let me build on that, Steve. Over roughly the past year, we've discussed how strong the inquiry levels have been, and what we observed was that customers kept postponing that decision. I believe there was recently a survey of small and large businesses in the US in which you saw an uptick in capital goods orders during March, and frankly, that matches exactly what we saw. Those inquiries and decisions from the past are now materializing, and we expect that to carry on through 2026, since demand for the goods and services those business lines provide has built up and been held back.

Jake Trainor executive
#41

Steve, there are a couple of other forces at play here. One would be what you might call the reshoring of certain production, which ties into what Mike mentioned regarding some of the space work we're doing, but it also involves certain aircraft manufacturers. Compared with before, we now produce a greater share of aircraft parts here at home. The second factor, as we've noted, concerns the data centres and a portion of the manufacturing, yet intertwined with that is our wireline services, where we're observing a growing rise in fibre plowing and long-distance fibre installation, which once again provides the connectivity linking those data farms.

Steve Hansen analyst
#42

That's really useful, everyone. Appreciate it. I'll get back into the queue. Thank you.

Operator operator
#43

Thanks, and we’ll take the next question from James McGarragle at RBC Capital Markets. Go ahead, please.

Mike Pyle executive
#44

James, good morning.

James McGarragle analyst
#45

Morning, and thanks for having me on. It's also great to see Garth, Carm, and Marley — congratulations on the promotions, guys. I just wanted to ask how you're thinking about growth as we head into 2027. I'm not looking for 2027 guidance, but on the aerospace side, we have SkyLine, Greenland, further Canadian North integration, and higher returns from the BCE aircraft. Could you help us frame how we should be thinking about growth there? Then on the manufacturing side, we have the new plant, new projects in matting, and the potential for a recovery in windows. I'm just trying to piece all those things together and frame how we should be thinking about the 2027 outlook.

Mike Pyle executive
#46

Sure. I'll try my hardest not to cite figures, since we haven't issued 20 2027 guidance, but our outlook for 2027 is genuinely bullish, and the reason is straightforward: the capital we've already put to work. For instance, you'll see the Newfoundland medevac contract delivering a full year of revenue. You'll also see the matting business keep growing. In Canada, I find that really exciting. Visibility is strong once you're bidding projects well ahead of time. We're a major presence in that market. Not every bid goes our way, but we definitely capture our fair share. Given how much we're bidding, I'm quite confident we'll have more mats on rent in 2027 than in 2026, and more in 2026 than in 2025. I see growth in that area. You've got a business that will contribute going forward in 2026 or 2027. The ongoing integration of Canadian North will keep helping as we advance our combi aircraft model and the initiatives we have underway there. I think another item worth touching on — and I'm somewhat surprised we're already seeing it — is that our passenger loads in Nunavut are rising.

Mike Pyle executive
#47

Their expansion is outpacing the birth rate, and that's unusual. My sense is this is just the start of something: with the government putting money into the North, people are heading up there — professionals, construction crews, all of that. They fly with us to get there. We're seeing an uptick, and I expect it to carry on. On top of that, we've grown our medevac work. As that business expands, we'll have every aircraft positioned in BC. We're talking with them about adding more routes beyond what we already fly for them. There are plenty of pieces in play. And then, naturally, there's the Air Canada contract too. By that point, all those routes will be operating. We're at a stage where a lot of what I'd describe as structural growth is already funded. Adam doesn't stay idle for long, so I'm fairly confident more will come out of that. I'm not making any promises. That billion-dollar figure is close.

James McGarragle analyst
#48

Thanks for that context. I have one brief follow-up regarding the gain on contingent consideration tied to Canadian North. Could you explain what caused that reduction in the earn-out estimate? Was any of it related to a shift in the growth trajectory compared with the assumptions you had at the outset of the deal? Typically, we tend to see that kind of thing when something is going wrong, so any detail you can offer would be helpful.

Mike Pyle executive
#49

I genuinely appreciate that question, because without a doubt, the performance at Canadian North has surpassed even the rosiest projections we had when we acquired the business. Things are going really well. We had an earn-out figure tied to securing a contract for the northern charter operations connected to the natural resources side of their business. One of those projects got pushed back, and because of that, the company couldn't sign the new contract, which meant we weren't required to make a payment under that portion of the earn-out. Our acquisition team had flagged this as a potential risk. Now, I don't believe that business has disappeared. We discussed at the time we bought the company that we needed to be sure we were generating profit in the charter operations. I think we've achieved strong progress there since we began. The gain simply stems from one payment we don't have to make, purely because a contract couldn't be signed within the required window for us to owe the vendor. It was a pickup resulting from that contract's delay. This does not in any way signal disappointment or underperformance of the acquisition — quite the opposite.

James McGarragle analyst
#50

Grateful for that, and I’ll hand things over now. Thank you.

Operator operator
#51

Much appreciated, and the next question is from Krista Friesen of CIBC. The line is yours — go right ahead.

Krista Friesen analyst
#52

Hello, and I appreciate you giving me the chance to ask something.

Mike Pyle executive
#53

Hello there, Krista.

Krista Friesen analyst
#54

Good morning. I was hoping we might go a bit deeper on the jet fuel side. Given the contracts you have in place that allow you to pass it through, what kind of lag should we be expecting there?

Mike Pyle executive
#55

Correct — we're talking about under 30 days here. In areas such as Manitoba and the Maritimes, where sales mostly happen at market rates, the increase gets passed along as soon as we can notify the customer. Some tickets are pre-sold, so there's a bit of an effect, though it's minor. Under most of our medevac agreements, including the Nunavut one, the fuel price for this month applies next month. A 30-day delay exists on portions of that, yet on the flip side, once prices level off or move lower, we benefit from a 30-day uplift. As you saw in Q1, despite fuel climbing sharply late in the period — between the close of February and the close of March — margin pressure stayed small. For the ISR segment, nearly all of it is invoiced directly to the government. The fuel bills aren't even something we cover; the government handles those payments directly. There is no lag whatsoever there.

Krista Friesen analyst
#56

That's great, thanks—very useful. So I'm curious whether you could add a bit more detail about how the Mach 2 integration is going. Even though the acquisition only closed quite recently, it looks like things have got off to a strong start. Is there anything more you can share on that front, and on the demand you're seeing? Thank you.

Mike Pyle executive
#57

We actually just completed an expansion of our offices at Regional One yesterday, and it's going to let Mach move in with them in that same facility. We're currently working on getting Mach's data into the proprietary database Regional One has built, which is going to help us figure out where to focus. It's really key to grasp that as we start testing the waters in the 737 market, we aren't moving into long-term leasing or anything like that. Those sorts of things are financing plays for banks. What we're doing is acquiring aircraft at the margins that are getting close to the end of their useful life, and we'll begin by dismantling them for parts, and eventually we'll lease out components of them. This is Regional One's model paired with Mach's sector expertise and EIC's capital access. On top of that, we're a natural buyer for certain of those parts through our Canadian North operation. They operate 737s, so the more we purchase from ourselves, the more familiar we become with the market.

Krista Friesen analyst
#58

Thanks — that's helpful context. I'll hand it over now.

Operator operator
#59

Thanks, and the next question is from Cameron Doerksen at National Bank. Go ahead, please.

Mike Pyle executive
#60

Good morning there, Cam.

Cameron Doerksen analyst
#61

Thank you, and good morning. Mike, earlier you mentioned that passenger traffic into Nunavut has begun to recover somewhat. What I'd like to ask is how you expect that to develop over the longer term in terms of demand for flights and aviation services in the North. I believe since the previous call, we've seen the federal government announce a fairly sizable investment in new infrastructure, and there's also been some backing for new resource projects up North. Are you now at a point where you're actually in discussions with governments or with prospective resource customers about helping support some of that growth? Do you have any sort of timeline for when activity might pick up more? Clearly you're already seeing improvement, but perhaps a more meaningful increase in activity stemming from some of these investments being made in the North?

Mike Pyle executive
#62

Sure. It varies quite a bit. The government side of things is already moving. We're talking with them about several matters — surveillance work, other projects as well. Some items won't be ours to handle directly, such as constructing military bases and similar work. Already we've observed more charter demand in that region. We're holding discussions regarding the iron ore development at Baffinland. Exploration for critical minerals has picked up on Baffin Island, operating out of Iqaluit. It's fairly widespread. It's difficult for me to tell you, well, this is the second quarter of 2027 or anything like that. Some of it will be construction. Seeing it show up in our passenger numbers this quickly surprised me. We didn't expect this. Since we serve enough different locations where it's an essential service, we can compare volumes there with, say, First Nations in Manitoba. Once we identify a market gap in revenue growth, we understand what's driving it. We're only at the start of that. They haven't begun building the new runways they promised, nor the new buildings they promised, nor the military bases they promised. We're not even in the first inning.

Mike Pyle executive
#63

The ceremonial first pitch may have been thrown by them, but in this baseball game, that's roughly where we stand.

Cameron Doerksen analyst
#64

That's quite clear. If I may ask one brief follow-up, it's about the executive appointments and the shifts in senior management responsibilities. Congratulations to everyone involved, of course. I'm just curious—regarding the reshuffling of duties involving Darwin and Travis, what is the goal? What mandates do they carry in these new positions they've taken on?

Mike Pyle executive
#65

As we expand and bring in additional businesses, budgeting, forecasting, and similar matters demand greater financial oversight. Travis possesses an outstanding background in that field, and he'll assume extra duties there. Darwin truly serves as our acquisition whisperer—drawing people into EIC and showing them how to operate within a new conglomerate. Throughout his time here, he has been outstanding, and he'll keep concentrating on that. Operational duties will remain his as well, but we're asking him to take on more regarding integration, while Travis handles more of the numbers, budgeting, and forecasting side. The larger we become, the more Rich—he gets grumpy whenever he receives figures he doesn't anticipate. We're refining the forecasting so we can keep Richie happy.

Cameron Doerksen analyst
#66

No, that's completely clear. Thanks a lot for taking the time.

Operator operator
#67

Thank you, and the next question comes from Jeff Fenwick at ATB Cormark. Please go ahead.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#68

Morning, everyone — thanks for joining us.

Mike Pyle executive
#69

Good morning to you, Jeff.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#70

Mike, I'd like to begin with maintenance CapEx. You gave us some helpful remarks on that near the start of the call. Looking at the past two quarters, there's a bit of a decline in Q1 compared with where you stood in Q4. I'm simply trying to understand what the right figure is, or whether those are the markers we ought to use for this year. Now that Canadian North is more settled within the mix, have we perhaps arrived at a more normalized level of maintenance CapEx, or how should we approach that?

Mike Pyle executive
#71

Yeah, I'd say Q1 came in lower than I expected. The engine slots we managed to secure, along with a few other factors, meant less work got completed in January. I see that as somewhat of an anomaly. The rolling 12s really serve as the better forecasters of what's going on. Q4 was higher. Q2 will be higher once again. We do have some things that will roll through this year that were kind of deferred items at Canadian North. It'll stay elevated for the rest of the year, and Q1 was probably just abnormally light simply because a couple of engine events got pushed since we couldn't get slots — they're sitting on our floor waiting to get overhauled.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#72

Appreciate that. Now I’d like to ask about the Air Greenland deal. You mentioned a relationship already existed with them. Did that involve leasing, or could you describe it for us—and given that relationship, was this a cross-sell opportunity?

Jake Trainor executive
#73

Thanks, Jeff. That genuinely represented an opportunity to cross-sell. PAL, simply because of how close it sits to Greenland along the east coast, has handled the heavy maintenance on Air Greenland's Dash 8 fleet for years. With that relationship already in place — and whether the topic was parts or technical expertise built up over time — that is how the conversation got started.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#74

All right. Then I wanted to ask — I noticed an announcement on PAL Aerospace's website regarding some funding received through the Regional Defence Investment Initiative. It wasn't a huge amount, but perhaps you could just explain how that ties into the ongoing discussions, what those dollars were intended for, and how it came about.

Jake Trainor executive
#75

Yes. As I mentioned, that came via the defence initiative, and its real purpose was backing the research and development work on CarteNav, along with certain modifications to the Dash 8 to 400 that we're examining, clearly in Canada as well as a few other jurisdictions globally. Once again, this reflects the federal government's push to build up capability within our country, aimed at both domestic use and export.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#76

So I suppose we ought to take that as a pretty clear sign that they're interested in partnering with you on bigger deals down the line — is that a fair way to put it?

Jake Trainor executive
#77

Sure. They clearly see that PAL is a major employer across Atlantic Canada and a technology leader on the world stage. There are plenty of strong points—the De Havilland Dash 8 is, of course, a Canadian aircraft, with a great deal of Canadian content, including Pratt & Whitney engines. Once again, this reflects the Canadian government's broader global effort to strengthen Canadian competitiveness and build that capability domestically.

Mike Pyle executive
#78

I think the other point I want to jump in on is that I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit frustrated when we made the Australia announcement and hadn't succeeded there, though we had won in Greenland. I think a few people just didn't get it. The ISR market is enormous. We won't capture every single bid we submit, but some of them we will capture. We're establishing a beachhead in Europe and the Nordic countries, which offer enormous growth. Now that we're working with the Danes in Greenland, in the Netherlands, in Great Britain, and hopefully in Canada, other nations are going to be linked into that joint defence effort and Canada's new, closer relationship with Europe. We're in discussions right now, and I'm under NDAs so I can't say with whom, but I think a strong trend is emerging of us as a leader in that marketplace. Working with various parts of the government — the irony is that in Canada, our contracts with the Fisheries Department, despite the fact that most of the work we do isn't for the fisheries anymore. Or in the Netherlands, we're working with the Coast Guard and the Marines.

Mike Pyle executive
#79

Over in Britain, we're collaborating with folks who are trying to curb illegal immigration via Homeland Security. Each of these governments has its own different departments, but as they begin communicating more and more, having software that can talk to one another and then share data with their partners in other nations puts us in a great position. That's the reason I'm so bullish on the longer-term version of ISR, rather than what we win this month or next quarter. We might do something along those lines, but it's more about the longer-term market we're developing. Where we stand now versus where we were five years from now is remarkable, and that's going to keep growing.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#80

Thanks, that's really helpful context. So perhaps just a final question, and it's a broader one about M&A. Given how much balance sheet capacity you now have, does that shift how you view or where you aim your efforts for opportunities? Clearly, with that behind you, you're able to write considerably bigger checks. Would you even begin considering places beyond North America if an appealing airline matching your criteria came along, or something along those lines? How is that developing at this point?

Mike Pyle executive
#81

Yes is the quick response. A somewhat longer and, I think, more pertinent response is that we aren't the top price-payer when it comes to acquisitions. We are competitive. We never offer enough to persuade someone to sell purely because of the amount we would pay. We pay what the market pays. We aim to make dealing with us simple, and liquidity has consistently formed a major element of our strategy. Rich has performed excellently on our bond deal and on our new bank deal, so we have capital on hand. I want to state clearly that our parameters for what we pay are not being altered. Being able to pay does not imply that you ought to pay more. The fact that we trade higher does not imply that we ought to pay more. Now, if we came across an excellent company that was genuinely big, was accretive, something we desired, would we pay all the way down to our 15% return? Absolutely. We won't do 12% deals simply because we have capital. I want to reassure people that we achieved the 20% return across 20 years by adhering to what we do, and we will adhere to what we do. We've added personnel to Adam's department, and that probably means we have to complete more $100 million deals.

Mike Pyle executive
#82

Sure, doing $500 million deals would be great, but there just aren't many of those out there. We're going to stay active and keep doing what has worked for us. With luck, we'll simply do more of it. Then there's the other side of things, honestly, which is putting money into our own business. Had we come out on top in Australia, that could have meant an investment of half a billion dollars without much trouble. Should we succeed in Canada, that might run into the hundreds of millions. You need the liquidity on hand so you can support your opportunities.

Jeff Fenwick analyst
#83

Thanks for the detail. That covers everything on my side. Thanks.

Operator operator
#84

Thanks. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask something, hit star and then 1 on your phone's keypad. Up next, we have a question from Konark Gupta at Scotiabank. Go right ahead.

Mike Pyle executive
#85

Good morning there, Konark.

Konark Gupta analyst
#86

Good morning. Good morning, Mike, and to the whole team — congratulations to each of you on your appointments. Perhaps to start, I’ll go back to the matting business. During the first quarter, it appears the US matting business rose compared with last year, Canadian demand was roughly flat, yet EBITDA for that matting business line came in flat. I’m trying to get at what the actual mix issue is here.

Mike Pyle executive
#87

It's actually a bit more nuanced than what you described. Let's begin with the US. In round numbers, it performed about the same as last year, but that's actually a stronger result than it appears, because as we entered 2025, we had substantial inventory of finished goods on the ground. This year, we entered with no inventory; we had sold it all in Q4. We managed to hit the same number just by adjusting the plant and squeezing out a little more production. The team at Spartan has done a remarkable job maximizing what we're able to produce. The determining step at Spartan right now is simply how many mats we can make. Everything we can make, we can sell. We can sell more than what we have now. I can't wait to open that second plant so we can keep up. In Canada, while the EBITDA return looks similar, that's very misleading. We had a bunch of decommissioning work, which by its nature doesn't continue, and it strengthened Q1 of last year. The number of mats on rent was much lower than it is now. We know where our revenue is going forward, and we know the other stuff we've bid going forward.

Mike Pyle executive
#88

The earnings quality in Northern Mat, I'd argue, was significantly stronger this year versus the prior year, despite the figures looking quite comparable, and that leaves us bullish about what's ahead. Because if — and I won't use actual numbers here for competitive reasons — suppose we had 20,000 mats out on rent at the close of last year in Q1, and today we have 40,000, then day one of Q2 begins from a far better position than the starting point we had a year ago. That's the reason we speak with confidence about growth. And there's plenty of runway remaining. We have a substantial mat count, and in our outlook we noted that we'll likely add to it. We believe additional inventory will be required for the rental pool, and I think you'll see capital going into that during Q2 and afterward. Looking at the results, even with EBITDA flat, this business is not flat.

Richard Wowryk executive
#89

Another point worth making is that the US dollar—or rather, the Canadian dollar—was considerably weaker this year, no question about it. It was considerably weaker over the past year, and the translation of Spartan's results, which account for a bigger share because of how the Canadian operations' seasonality plays out in Q1, took a hit this year from foreign exchange rates.

Mike Pyle executive
#90

That amounted to millions of dollars, all within that single business.

Konark Gupta analyst
#91

No, that's really useful context. Thank you very much. Regarding the guidance for this year, I'd like to get a handle on the main puts and takes, I suppose. That $25 million bump from the midpoint up to the high end, so to speak — does it mostly stem from the large asset sales? They appear to be performing very well. They're clearly lumpy as well, aren't they? How would you break down the large asset sales against underlying strength in some of the other parts of the business?

Mike Pyle executive
#92

What I'd say is this: those sizable asset sales, in my view, skew revenue in a disproportionate way, and they do contribute some EBITDA. That's one piece of how we generate earnings. Parts and leasing are the heart of the business. The bulk of our EBITDA growth comes from leasing revenue, and that's the reason this growth is of higher quality. I consistently warn people not to fixate too heavily on revenue within the aftermarket business, given those large asset sales. Parts sales, which are strikingly predictable, along with our leasing revenue, are what really drive this business. Leasing revenue is climbing because we put a lot of money to work last year, so those planes are entering service now, and we expect them to remain there. Frankly, should any uncertainty emerge in the business down the road, we've made clear to Hank that the chequebook is ready—we'll be aggressive and go acquire the equipment, since buying equipment during a bull market is extremely difficult. If slowdowns show up in certain periods of the year, we'll happily step in and grow the company off that weakness.

Konark Gupta analyst
#93

Got it, Mike — appreciate that. One final question, if you don't mind, regarding the S232 tariffs; I'd just like to grasp the details a bit better. The modification brought in by the US government on April 6th means a 25% duty applies to the full customs value of derivative products. Before that, the duty stood at just 50% on metal content. Which areas of the business would fall under this tariff? It appears the window business has some cross-border transactions. From Canada into the US, I don't believe you carry much stainless business across the border, at least. Do you have any view on what the S232 means for your operations?

Mike Pyle executive
#94

I think this can be made a lot simpler. The key point is that windows is the sole operation affected by this. Just about everything else we do falls under CUSMA, so goods move both directions with tariff efficiency. With windows, that change definitely costs us money. Previously, we could ship windows over the border and duties were calculated on the metal portion of the window. Today, under the revised rules, the duty is calculated on the window's full value. That essentially rules out earning a profit by manufacturing in Canada and selling into the US. Luckily, we operate plants in both countries, so we've simply streamlined production. Windows for America are made in the US, and windows for Canada are made in Canada. Even so, that tariff regime poses certain difficulties, since practically all aluminum originates in Canada and is extruded there. Whether a window is made in Canada or the US, the extrusions arrive from Canada — not because we dislike purchasing aluminum in America, but because none is available there. When it crosses the border, even for US-built windows, we still pay duties on our raw material, the aluminum.

Mike Pyle executive
#95

That said, does anyone else. It isn't a competitive disadvantage. In fact, we hold a competitive edge over our Canadian rivals such as State, who sell heavily into the US. They must produce it in Canada, so their problem is far larger than ours. Even with all that, tariffs still cost us money, and they continue to make the business less efficient. We look forward to the day that gets resolved, even though it does hand us a competitive advantage in the US.

Konark Gupta analyst
#96

That’s clear. I appreciate you all taking the time. Thanks.

Mike Pyle executive
#97

Much appreciated.

Operator operator
#98

Much appreciated, and our following question is from Gary Ho at Desjardins Capital Markets. Go right ahead.

Mike Pyle executive
#99

Gary, good morning.

Gary Ho analyst
#100

Good morning. Apologies for joining the call behind schedule. I'd like to sharpen the discussion around data centres a bit, and we are observing early signs of data centre expansion in a number of industries. There is some reference to this in the MD&A, and I believe in the Q&A as well so far. Could you expand on what you are seeing among the portfolio companies, and do you view this as a bubble at all, or are there long-term opportunities that you might potentially pursue on the M&A side?

Mike Pyle executive
#101

Let me address the final question first, on whether this is a bubble. In my view, without question, it is elevated. We have been through periods of rapid expansion in various businesses previously, and at some stage—be that 5 years from today or 7 years from today—this business will mature. That is precisely why I consider it so essential. We observe certain competitors giving up their core areas to plunge fully into this, and although we are expanding and capitalising on the data centre business, across each of our businesses we are ensuring we stay focused on our core customer. As for where we see the opportunity, apart from growth in the electrical grid, there are 4 primary areas where we identify it—because expansion of the electrical grid benefits our matting business. Even so, since growth in the electrical grid extends beyond data centres to electric cars and all sorts of things, and that will continue. We certainly do not view that as a bubble. Setting aside the matting business, we are building cooling systems for these enormous server farms. As I mentioned earlier on this call, we received an order—the largest ever in stainless fabrication for us—worth more than $20 million US for a single facility.

Mike Pyle executive
#102

We're doing fibre plowing — that's where we dig and bury really large fibre cables, not the baseball-sized kind you'd see going into people's homes and that sort of thing. These cables are a foot or more in width, and we're constructing long trenches and burying this material from Northern Alberta all the way down to the US border. We're putting up racking to mount computers on. Oddly enough, some of our FODs — some of the matting — are actually being used at the construction sites. We're seeing that across several of our businesses. Guys, did I leave anything out there?

Travis Muhr executive
#103

Perhaps I could add that this likewise opens doors for our hydronic heating company—strange as that may sound—but also for concrete curing and for commissioning the chillers. The chillers must be tested, which means a load has to be placed on them, and that generates opportunities for that business line. As Mike noted, we additionally observe other firms realigning their customers and concentrating on data centres, which produces ancillary chances for us to keep capturing market share in more traditional areas too. From a broad standpoint across our portfolio of companies, it's a net positive we see.

Jake Trainor executive
#104

We're genuinely taking on a task that's new for us. My understanding is that this is the first building cladding project we've handled. The window crew is working on it, though there's no glass involved. Obviously, we're installing metal cladding on buildings, which once again is just shifting our window team somewhat into other business lines, but we're observing that too, so.

Mike Pyle executive
#105

That's a piece of the tech we've invested in at our window plants that allows us to construct. It began with high-rise apartments or condos, where they need to make things look interesting — they're mostly using aluminum or ceramic cladding to give the building an interesting look rather than using stone, while we're able to take that and actually clad a whole building in it. It's one of the new areas we're working on.

Gary Ho analyst
#106

Thanks. My next question is about AI, which has been a big topic lately. It has even started showing up among industrials and manufacturing firms, with management teams discussing how AI can support things like dynamic pricing and so on. I'm just wondering whether your team has devoted any time to this and how it might enhance operations and/or efficiencies, whether at the head office or inside your portfolio companies.

Mike Pyle executive
#107

We've got teams grouped within our different businesses examining how this applies. I'd say we likely sit at the lower end of most companies in terms of what we're able to do with AI. It's heavily human-centric — whether you're piloting an aircraft, performing maintenance, or constructing pipelines, all of what we do demands people. Where we do observe certain AI capabilities is in areas such as CTI, where we can create training systems that are better and faster by leveraging AI to assist us, or in our ISR systems, there's a great deal where AI can deliver improved, more robust, quicker data, embedded within. In most of our cases, what we really see AI as is enhancing the quality, the speed, or the capability of our product. It isn't the cost reduction that some other folks discuss. You could fly airplanes today with no pilots; that technology is available, but we don't believe that's going to happen anytime soon, and so it truly isn't affecting the operations. Do we apply AI to work on parts and on what things we might alter repair schedules for and such? Absolutely, but people are still needed to go turn the wrenches.

Mike Pyle executive
#108

In our case, that factor doesn’t play nearly as large a role as it does at certain other companies.

Travis Muhr executive
#109

My take is that this isn't hurting our businesses at all — it's making them better, really at the leading edge on the admin side, like in the window companies with quoting and getting things more efficient. Our businesses are durable, and AI won't disrupt them. It's supplementary and a net positive for us. We're viewing it from an administrative angle and figuring out how to do things more efficiently and better.

Mike Pyle executive
#110

This is, I believe, the first occasion where an investing acronym genuinely suits us, but that entire HALO investing concept — high assets, low obsolescence — truly resonates with nearly everything we do beyond ISR and training.

Travis Muhr executive
#111

Demand that is essential.

Jake Trainor executive
#112

Every one of the three.

Richard Wowryk executive
#113

I believe another place where we're seeing the payoff, and we've been at this for a number of years now, is simply leveraging AI's predictive capabilities to support safety. We're building our own in-house safety management system over on the aviation side, really to make certain we're doing all we can and that we remain at the leading edge of safety, and to make sure that anything we can do to keep our people safer, we're putting money behind. That was probably our first foray into it.

Gary Ho analyst
#114

Thanks a lot. I appreciate those remarks.

Operator operator
#115

Thanks, and the next question is from Tim James at TD. Go ahead, please.

Tim James analyst
#116

Thanks a lot. Morning, everyone. For my first question, it's about the M&A landscape. Mike, I'd like to hear your take on how competitive things look right now in M&A. Has there been any pullback in how many companies are bidding for businesses? Are buyers more willing to pay up at this point, or is it going the other way and they're becoming somewhat less aggressive? I'm curious what you're seeing in the market from a pricing perspective.

Mike Pyle executive
#117

Making that point about every segment is tough since it varies so much by product area. Broadly, deal volume remains below where it stood before COVID. There are fewer lower-quality transactions, so the top of the funnel has shrunk. That said, what we're reviewing is of higher quality. Adam and his team, I believe, have done a remarkable job enhancing our capabilities—collaborating with our subsidiaries to uncover our own acquisitions, examining competitors, examining suppliers, examining geographic expansion, and reaching out to parties who might not have considered themselves available for sale, then pursuing those transactions. Mach 2 is a solid illustration. Canadian North is a solid illustration, as those are businesses we identified and concluded fit well with us. Pricing becomes a real concern when we encounter something unrelated to us and private equity is aggressive—though I'd characterize them as neither more nor less aggressive than over the last two years since we emerged from COVID.

Tim James analyst
#118

Thanks. For my second question, I want to shift focus to Multi-Story Window Solutions. That operation involves long lead times. Looking ahead to 2027, could you share some preliminary perspective based on the business you currently have on the books? I understand that interest rates and other factors can influence outcomes, but given what you know right now and what sits in backlog, when you consider that year, might 2027 turn out to be another decline? Might it stay level? Might it rise? I'd just like to hear your initial thinking on that.

Mike Pyle executive
#119

My guess is we're looking at roughly flat to slightly improved. In the quarter just reported, once you take currency movement out of the picture, book-to-bill came in flat, and that counts as movement in the right direction. We are genuinely beginning to notice small areas of strength south of the border. Things are picking up there more quickly than in Canada, so I expect we'll see gains on that front. We'll check in again after three months have passed and find out if book-to-bill is at or above even — that metric is the strongest signal about what lies ahead. Keep in mind that after we book an order, it typically takes 12 to 18 months before that revenue shows up in our figures. The weaker piece, honestly, remains Toronto. Oversupply there is holding back development, yet demand for multi-bedroom apartments stays substantial. Developers still need to figure out how to actually construct those units. We feel quite positive about the government's initiatives around HST and development fees, since those could produce as much as a 20% swing in what builders pay, and that swing genuinely matters when you're putting up long-term assets.

Jake Trainor executive
#120

One thing that's showing up — and we brought this up regarding the data centres — is simply a combination of two shifts: a move toward more commercial and institutional-style buildings, along with some product mix, in terms of those panels for the data centres we discussed. Once again, we're branching out from purely residential high-rise construction into other segments, which definitely gives us a somewhat wider horizon.

Tim James analyst
#121

I appreciate that.

Operator operator
#122

Thanks, and we'll take our next question from Razi Hasan at Paradigm Capital. Go right ahead.

Mike Pyle executive
#123

Good morning, everyone.

Razi Hasan analyst
#124

Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions. Most things have been covered already, but I’ve just got two quick ones here. Turning to aerospace, Mike, could you perhaps discuss the other contracts that are out for bid? I believe previously you brought up Great Britain—any detail you can give on anything actively out for bidding right now?

Mike Pyle executive
#125

Right now this is tough, since many countries are working hard to steer clear of what happened in Australia, where everything played out very publicly, and they aren't at ease with that kind of process, especially in markets where RFPs aren't the norm. That said, I'd point out that opportunities do exist. Europe is the biggest one. It isn't the sole one, but I'd say the talks that are furthest along and moving fastest involve European and Canadian parties, though there's some activity in Asia too, just at an earlier stage. Jake, anything?

Jake Trainor executive
#126

You touched on the UK Home Office only briefly, and that's something we've made public: we responded to an RFP in 2025. Results from that RFP should come in around the middle to later portion of 2026, and we hold the incumbent position there. Once again, our partnership with the UK Home Office is a strong one, and once again we feel good about where we stand, though anything can happen.

Razi Hasan analyst
#127

That's great. Then perhaps just one more for Travis. I just wanted to check — I think on the growth CapEx for 2026, did you say it would be in line with 2025 levels? Just wanted to make sure I have that right.

Travis Muhr executive
#128

No, probably greater than that, and on the manufacturing side that's really coming from the new Spartan plant, the US composite facility. Then, as we discussed regarding the demand profiles that are accelerating for the Canadian operations in Environmental Access Solutions, they will probably make that fleet investment simply because of the demand signals we are seeing.

Mike Pyle executive
#129

On the aviation growth CapEx side, there are fewer projects than last year. We have the Air Canada project and we're buying planes, but the BC medevac contract is finally nearing completion. I wish I were in the plane manufacturing business, where you can deliver things three years late and people still love you, but we're reaching the end — those CapEx have finished. I don't know whether everyone noticed, but a few days ago we issued a press release in QA: they were finally certified on all types of King Airs in our full-movement simulator. That will be great for our own pilots, and also for other Canadian pilots, who won't have to travel down to Texas and Kansas to get their training done. It's great for CapEx too, because I get to stop paying for installing it, so that's exciting for the future piece as well.

Razi Hasan analyst
#130

Appreciate that helpful context. Thanks — I'll stop here.

Operator operator
#131

Thanks, and the next question is from Michael Goldie at BMO. Go ahead, please.

Mike Pyle executive
#132

Good morning there, Michael.

Michael Goldie analyst
#133

Good morning, and thanks for asking. As much as you're able, could you go a little deeper on Australia and tell us what you took away from that process? Did you find any capabilities or solutions that you now see as worth adding to the portfolio down the road?

Mike Pyle executive
#134

I believe you were at my board meeting yesterday, since my board chair asked me precisely the same thing. The brief response is that I'm unable to, because they still haven't disclosed publicly who came out on top or what was awarded — whether the award covered an entire contract, a portion of it, or an extension of some piece, we simply don't have that information. Once we reach our Q2 meeting, I'll be in a far better position to answer that with real intelligence, because everything we've received from Australia — and I'm not exaggerating or using hyperbole here — amounts to a three-line letter stating, "Thank you for your bid. We will not be proceeding at this time. If you'd like to meet with us, please let us know." We have let them know, and that's genuinely the extent of what we know. We think we know who won, but that's conjecture rather than fact, so it's difficult for me to give you an answer. We will find out, and we will share the details as soon as we have them, but I'd rather not speculate.

Michael Goldie analyst
#135

All right, and moving on to my next question: inside R1, has the macro environment begun to affect asset values at this point? How much longer do you figure energy prices have to stay elevated before discounted opportunities begin to show up, and how did asset values behave during previous energy shocks?

Mike Pyle executive
#136

Up to now, nothing has hit us. We have not observed any effect whatsoever. Engines are in short supply globally for a lot of the aircraft we operate, such as the CF34 and similar equipment, and that situation remains completely unchanged. With carriers such as United eager to transition to the 550 model and comparable moves, demand is extremely strong. Nothing appears likely in the near term, in my view. A fuel shortage would be necessary, I believe. Prices alone won't get us there, in my opinion; it would take fuel shortages to create a real problem, one where people are unable to fly, and then airlines carrying heavy leverage run into difficulty, which in turn would open up opportunities to buy assets. That point hasn't arrived, and it is one reason our bullish stance on the remainder of the year persists. Our lease portfolio has shown zero signs of deterioration.

Jake Trainor executive
#137

Let me add one remark: historically, when energy shocks hit, they usually push down or reduce orders for new aircraft, and that in turn shapes demand for pre-owned planes, which is what our portfolio consists of. Pre-owned aircraft, engine solutions, that kind of thing. Once again, this adds further colour to what Mike said here.

Travis Muhr executive
#138

Perhaps one more point. This market is also heavily driven by relationships. Hank maintains very strong ties with many fleets across the globe, and combined with the liquidity we have on hand, as Rich and Mike mentioned, we can execute transactions at a moment's notice, which gives us a huge strategic edge over some of our other competitors in that regional market.

Mike Pyle executive
#139

We have moved.

Travis Muhr executive
#140

We're all set to begin.

Mike Pyle executive
#141

We are ready to purchase even when we don't yet know what we'll do with the assets. During COVID, the company pulled off one of its great trades. An airline was looking to unload every one of their Q400s, and Hank presented the deal to me. In the middle of COVID I asked, "Do we really want to commit this much money amid so much turmoil?" He persuaded me, and we bought them. My only regret is not telling him to go find some more. We paid for planes what half an engine costs today. When such opportunities arise, that's exactly where the liquidity Rich supplies is a huge help.

Michael Goldie analyst
#142

If I could fit in just one more question—are you applying AI to R1 data at this point? My sense is that the volume of information is simply enormous, and this technology could help you sort through it more effectively and uncover opportunities.

Mike Pyle executive
#143

When it comes to AI, the key point is that you need the right data to mine, and this isn't something handled by a third-party process for them. We developed our own proprietary system — we didn't label it AI, but it functions as AI, built in-house, where we generate the data ourselves. Our people know, quite literally, the location of every engine on an RJ700/900 anywhere in the world. We have a rough idea of when those engines will require overhaul. We know where all the ERJs sit and what their parts are worth, and that's what underpins the returns we're able to achieve in Regional One. That's also why we acquired Mach 1 Mach 2. They have access to information on other models that we have never yet been clever enough — we lacked the data — to take part in. That's going to let us expand into those models and enlarge the effective size of the swimming pool in which we can compete.

Michael Goldie analyst
#144

Great, I really appreciate it.

Mike Pyle executive
#145

Appreciate it.

Operator operator
#146

Thanks. That's all the questions we have right now. I'll turn things back over to Mr. Pyle for any closing comments.

Mike Pyle executive
#147

Thanks to each of you for being here today. Discussing a quarter like that one was enjoyable, and I truly hope many of you will be with us in a couple of hours for our AGM. There are a couple of videos and some enjoyable things to cover, so I will either see you this morning, or we will speak again once second quarter has wrapped up. Have a wonderful day.

Operator operator
#148

That brings us to the end of today's call. We appreciate everyone for joining. You're all free to disconnect now.

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