L1 Long Short Fund Limited (LSF) Earnings Call Transcript
November 9, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Andrew Larke, and I have the privilege of being the Chair of your company and also of today's meeting. It's my pleasure to welcome you to the 2026 AGM of L1 Long Short Fund Limited. It's now 10:00 a.m., and as we have a quorum, I declare the meeting open. I would like to introduce my fellow directors, John Macfarlane, Harry Kingsley, Julian Russell and Jane Stewart. Also present are Nathan Jong, our Company Secretary; and representatives from Ernst & Young, our company's auditors. Notice of this meeting and the explanatory notes were sent to all shareholders, and I propose that this be taken as read. I'll now turn to my Chairman's address. In the 2025-'26 financial year, the investment manager, L1 Capital, delivered an exceptional result while navigating heightened geopolitical tensions, including conflict in the Middle East, shifting interest rate expectations and increasingly concentrated equity markets. With global equity market returns dominated by a relatively small number of AI-related companies, the team retained its focus on finding high-quality undervalued companies in sectors such as resources, construction materials, infrastructure, travel and financials, where price and intrinsic value were disconnected. They use periods of volatility to their advantage, buying companies at attractive prices and reaping the benefits of earnings upgrades, corporate actions and company-specific catalysts. Notwithstanding this challenging backdrop, over the 12 months to 30 June, L1 Capital produced an outstanding net return for LSF portfolio of 45.4% compared with 6.1% for the ASX 200, an our performance of 39.3%. As of 30 June 2026, on a 5-year basis, the portfolio had returned 16.9% per annum net, outperforming the ASX 200 by 9.1% per annum. And since IPO in 2018, we had returned 14.7% per annum net, outperforming the ASX 200 by 5.7% per annum. These results reflect the strength of L1 Capital's fundamental research, disciplined portfolio management and stock selection across a broad range of sectors. More recently, for the 4 months from 30 June 2026 to 31 October 2026, the portfolio has returned 1% net compared with 2.7% for the ASX 200 during the period. During the year, the company moved to quarterly dividends, recognizing that many shareholders prefer to receive more regular income. Fully franked dividends attributable to 2026 increased each quarter and $0.035 per share to $0.036, $0.037 and a final dividend of $0.038 per share paid in September 2026. This brought total dividends for the year to $0.146 per share fully franked, an uplift of 14.5% on the prior year. We are committed to continuing to increase fully franked dividends payable to our shareholders. This morning, the Board announced a fully franked quarterly dividend for Q1 of FY 2027, $0.039 per share, payable on 8th December. In September, Raphael Lamm and Mark Landau stepped down from the LSF Board to focus exclusively on their investment responsibilities. On behalf of the Board, I'd like to thank them for their contribution since the company's inception and listing in 2018. We are pleased to welcome Julian Russell, L1 Group's Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director; and also Jane Stewart, L1 Group's General Counsel to the Board. Their experience in financial services, legal, governance and risk management will further strengthen the Board's capabilities. Lastly, on behalf of the Board and the investment manager, I would also like to thank all of our shareholders for their continuing support of the company. It is very much appreciated. So I'll now turn to the business of today's meeting. I wish to advise that voting on all resolutions will be conducted by way of poll. Shareholders will be able to cast their vote using the electronic voting card. [Audio Gap] only shareholders, validly appointed proxies and corporate representatives are entitled to ask questions at today's meeting. We will answer any questions at the conclusion of the formal business of the meeting, including questions for the investment manager. The first item of business is to receive and consider the company's financial report, director's report, sustainability report and auditor's reports for the year ended 30 June 2026. I will now turn to the items of business for which a vote is required. The second item of business today relates to the adoption of the remuneration report. I will now table the outcome of proxy voting received prior to the meeting. The next item of business today relates to the reelection of directors. Resolution 2 relates to the reelection of John Macfarlane. I invite John to say a few words.
Thank you, Andrew, and good morning to my fellow Board members and all shareholders. My name is John Macfarlane, and I'm standing for reelection as an Independent Non-Executive Director of LSF, and I appreciate your ongoing support. I have had a career as an economist, trader, banking executive, company director and investor. I have been involved in global financial markets for more than 35 years, and I have lived and worked in Australia, New Zealand, North America and Asia. Banking taught me the importance of risk management, and I also learned to keep a keen focus on the current and prospective regulatory and governance landscape as well as technology advancements and new emerging trends in both public and private markets. As an investor, I've come to appreciate the importance of deep research and disciplined investment strategies brought together to protect and enhance shareholder value and returns. I've come to realize the value of managers being clear about the mandate and being true to label. LSF is my only public company directorship, although I maintain directorships of several operating businesses as well as portfolio responsibilities within family offices and private companies. I enjoy representing shareholders and working with my fellow directors and the L1 our management and investment team in the endeavor of delivering favorable outcomes for LSF investors. I've been an investor in L1's LSF fund since it was launched, and I have a strong sense of alignment with you, my fellow shareholders. I would appreciate your consideration and support as I put myself forward for reelection.
Thank you, John. I will now table the outcome of proxy voting received prior to the meeting. Resolution 3 relates to the reelection of Jane Stewart. I'll invite Jane to say a few words.
Thank you, Chair, and good morning, everyone. I joined the Board of L1 Long Short Fund in September this year, and I'm pleased to stand for reelection today. I've worked in funds management law, regulation and compliance since 2008 and is General Counsel of L1 Group, responsible for legal, compliance, governance and risk management. I'm committed to bringing my experience to the Board with a focus on strong governance and the interest of all shareholders. Thank you.
Thank you, Jane. I'll now table the outcome of proxy voting received prior to the meeting. Resolution 4 relates to the reelection Julian Russell. I invite Julian to say a few words, please.
Thank you, Chair. Good morning, fellow directors and ladies and gentlemen. My name is Julian Russell, and I'm standing for reelection as Director of LSF. I'm the Group Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of L1 Group, which is the manager of LSF. I bring more than 25 years of experience in financial services. Most recently, I served as Chief Executive Officer of ASX-listed Eclipx Group, now known as FleetPartners, where I led the restructuring and successful turnaround of that particular business. Before that, I was at UBS Investment Bank, where I led the financial institutions M&A practice, advising asset managers, banks, general insurers, life insurance and nonbank financial institutions. I believe this combined experience positions me to make a meaningful contribution to the Board and in the long-term interest of shareholders. Thank you for your consideration.
Thank you, Julian. I'll now table the outcome of proxy voting received prior to the meeting. Resolution 5 relates to the renewal of the proportional takeover provisions. I now table the special resolution that with effect from the date that this resolution is passed in accordance with Section 648G of the Corporations Act, the proportional takeover provisions set out in Clause 14 of the constitution, be renewed for a period of 3 years. I'll now table the outcome of the proxy voting received prior to the meeting. Well, that concludes the items of business to be voted on at today's meeting. Shareholders are reminded that they can submit their vote online until 5 minutes after the meeting closes. I appoint a representative, Ms. Mamata Telang of MUFG Corporate Markets as returning officer for this poll, and the final results will be announced to the ASX later today. So that concludes the formal business to be considered at the meeting. I now have the opportunity to address any questions from shareholders. Shareholders also have the opportunity to ask questions of the investment manager as we have Mark Landau, joining the meeting. Moderator, are there any questions on the phone lines?
Chair, I confirm there are no questions on the phone.
Thank you, moderator. Nathan, do we have any questions from the online platform?
Yes, we do. We have a total of 9 questions on the online platform, 2 of which relate to the same theme. So we'll work the 2 together, And will address each one. I'll start off with the first question. The first question relates to why the company that has many retail shareholders online only meet virtually and that it is considered best practice to hold a hybrid meeting. I'll hand that over to Andrew to comment.
Okay. Thank you. We've obviously had hybrid meetings for some time. And frankly, it's a cost -- in a number of issues, it's a cost issue. When we brought this in, I think it was in 2020, there was an overwhelming majority of shareholders that supported this. I think we've had -- I personally, as Chairman, have had a lot of people come to me and thanked me for this ability for just hybrid because actually our shareholders who have attended the meetings have gone up since we've had this in place. And look, if you look at -- if you do look at LSF, we're a little bit unique in the sense that really, it's the investment manager that invests in all the stocks that generate the share price and -- share price growth in the NTA growth. And I think this company would have to be, if not the most, close to the most communicative company in the market in terms of dealing with its shareholders. So I'll give you an example. In June this year, we had an investor update, and we had 2,632 plays of that investor video consuming around 1,000 hours of content. That's just one example. We have all sorts of updates that are given to shareholders along the way outside of what is essentially a largely a governance-focused AGM. So we provide separate forums for our shareholders to engage directly with us.
Thank you, Andrew. Now moving on to the next question received from Stephen Van Henricks. So the question reads, you have something like $2.15 per share of franking credits and pay out only a fraction of these out each year, and a large profits reserve that enables these franking credits to be paid out if the Board believes this is a good idea. These franking credits have varying value depending on the tax situations of your various shareholders. What do you know about the makeup of your shareholder base? And how does this tie into any longer-term plans for distributing these fracking credits?
Well, I guess I'll start by saying that Stephen would know through, if he's representing a number of shareholders that the shareholders that invest in LSF are not really there for the dividend, first point. We made it clear in the prospectus, and we've made it clear since that capital growth is the major objective of this company. That said, we are mindful that we have built up quite a good store of franking credits and retained earnings through the dividend reserve. And therefore, we started some years back a progressive dividend policy to bring these out to shareholders. But what we -- with a progressive dividend policy, you want it to stay progressive. So you don't want to get yourself into a situation where you're paying out big swings in dividends each year. That's when you can run into trouble. And certainly, the feedback from our shareholders has been that they -- enjoy the regular pattern that we have of dividends, which is quarterly now. And they also value the certainty of that regular stream of dividends rather than us paying out a large amount 1 year and maybe nothing for the next 2 or 3 years.
Thank you, Andrew. Now moving on to the next question now asked by Stephen Mayne. If Jeff Wilson appears at all WAM AGMs, Charlie Goode fronts AUI AGMs, Robert Millner fronts from Soul Patts AGM at a variety of fund managers present-- present the various stable AGMs. Why aren't either of our 2 founders and key fund managers, Rafael and Mark Landau presenting at today's AGM. Are they even in attendance, could you please ask them to make themselves available for the 2 subsequent L1 Group listed fund AGMs being held later today?
Hello, Steven. Thank you for your question. As you know, being a long-term shareholder of our company, we have had the 2 gentlemen you referred to, Rafi and Mark, they've been on our Board since IPO and have been in attendance at every Annual General Meeting until now. They have now left the Board to focus exclusively on what they do best, which is big stocks. That said, we do have the guys on the line today. So if you want to -- if you want to ask any questions that relate specifically to them or to any stocks that you might have questions about in our portfolio, then feel free to. So certainly, there will not be an AGM go by where they are not present either one or both of them.
Thank you, Andrew. Now moving on to the next question and another question from Stephen Mayne. This relates to the AGM business relating to the reelection of John. So the question goes on to read, having first joined the Board in January 2018, could reelection candidate, John Macfarlane comment on whether this is likely to be his final 3-year term on the Board? Or is he likely to recontest his seat in November 2029? Also what does he regard as the best 2 decisions made by the Board during his period of service? Finally, could John, please clarify how old he is and what proportion of his work time is dedicated to LSF?
That's from Steve, is it?
That's from Steve.
Yes. Thanks, Steve. It's Andrew here, not John. I'll hand over to John in a second. I would say -- so John has been on the Board 8 years. I'd say that he is an extremely energetic and engaged and independent -- strongly independent director. And as I say, are very aligned as well through his shareholding. From my perspective as Chairman, I value his input incredibly highly. And I don't think there's -- you've mentioned in your previous question, Charles Goode and -- and Jeff Wilson, I think they've got tenures that go a little bit longer than John's on this Board. But I'll hand over to John, and he can answer it as well.
Yes. Thank you, Stephen. Thanks for the question. Look, every time as a director, I come up for reelection, I think about my commitment to the firm, my ability to provide input. I also think about the structure of the Board. And at this meeting, we have Jane and Julian, both joining the Board. So we have some Board renewal, and it was in that context that I decided to offer myself for reelection. Stephen, to answer some of your other questions directly. I'm 66 years old. I probably devote and it's hard to be specific because it varies between 5% and 10% of my time to the activities of LSF, but I would highlight that I probably spend 70% plus of my time in the general investment and professional investment space, which helps to form my opinions and input on behalf of the LSF shareholders. You asked the question about the 2 best decisions. Well, as a precursor to that, I would say that probably the best decision is the appointment and the ongoing support of the manager. As you can tell from the performance, L1 as a management team have provided outstanding service to the shareholders. In addition to Andrew's comments, though, if I was to highlight the 2 key decisions, I think that we spent a lot of time, as Andrew referred to, talking about putting in place both a buyback, and we're very thoughtful around the progressive dividend policy, which I think we've executed in line with the communication to our shareholders. I think the second thing, and again, Andrew alluded to this was that very early on, we sat down with the manager and discussed the importance of communication with the shareholders. And over the time that this fund has been listed since 2018, I think you've seen an enormous uptick in the quality, the quantity and the preciseness of the communication to the point where, as Andrew also said, we feel that we are genuinely best-in-class. So I think that they have been important contributions by L1, the manager and supported and motivated and driven by the Board and those are decisions of which I think we can be rightly proud.
Thank you. Now there are all questions [indiscernible] everyone a stock take on the question count. Moving on to the next question, again asked by Stephen Mayne, this relates to the Resolution 1, the adoption of the remuneration report. The question reads, thank you for disclosing the proxy votes early to the ASX and well done for achieving such strong voting support in favorable resolutions. Based on the voting results at the 2025 AGM, it appears that at least one of the founders didn't vote on the remuneration report last year and both have voted this year. Was there any debate within the Board and broader L1 management team about whether they should be voting on today's remuneration report resolution, given they only resigned from the Board in September?
Thanks, Steve. And thanks, the reason we put forward the proxies ahead of time was your question last year, actually. So thank you for that. In relation that, no, there wasn't any discussion at the Board. Those guys take their own legal advice on how and when they are able to vote their shares. And I think regardless of how they voted, there would have been a significant majority in any event.
Thank you, Andrew. Now moving on to the next question, again, asked by Stephen Mayne. This relates to the reelection of Ms. Jane Stewart as a director. Question reads, from a governance perspective, could Jane Stewart comment on why she regards it as good governance to have 2 L1 management representatives on this Board, but neither of the founders. Why does she need to be a voting director on this Board as opposed to just attending Board meetings as a management observer. Surely, we should have a super majority of independent directors rather than the narrowest majority of just 3 to 2. Also, as General Counsel, why isn't she also Company Secretary? Are we still using an outsourced company Secretary? I'll hand it over to...
Yes, over to Jane, but I'll just say at the outset, Stephen, thanks for the question. And as you say, it's 3-2 in terms of independent -- sort of independent directors versus the nonindependents. And as I think John mentioned and I mentioned previously, that -- it's a very strong independent Board -- this Board. And it's got a good, very strong relationship with the manager, healthy relationship with the manager, but there is genuine independence and there's 3 independent directors sitting around the Board table. We have -- Mark and Rafi are focusing their time on picking stocks, which is what we want them to do. And frankly, you don't want us picking the stocks. And -- but what you do want is us looking after corporate governance, capital management, dividend policy, that type of thing. And that's where Jane's skills are very valuable to us as a Board going forward. With that context, Jane, I'll hand over to you.
Thank you very much for your question, Stephen. I'm a nonindependent director because of my role with L1 Group, and I see that connection as helping keep communication between the Board and the manager clear and open. The founders are no longer on the Board, so they can focus on managing LSF's investment portfolio. And it is planned that Olivia Byron, L1G's Company Secretary, will be appointed as Company Secretary of the company.
Thank you. Thank you, Jane. And now moving on to the next question, now asked from a shareholder on the name of Stephen Van Henrick. Good to see more independent directors on the Board and you taking possible conflict of interest or perceptions of possible conflict of interest seriously. From our discussions, it seems you've taken positive steps here. In terms of the independent directors, do you have a policy surrounding the shareholdings in the investment manager of L1 Capital? And if not, will you consider it?
Thanks, Steve. The answer is we don't have a policy. I don't think we'll consider it either is the truth. In terms of who are the shareholders, the major shareholders in the manager, I think as you probably know, because you're a keen market observer, that that's really Mark, Rafi, Joel and another party, another person. It is listed separately. So whether people have small amounts, immaterial amounts in their super funds or whatever, it's up to them, but there's nothing here where there would be a conflict situation. Obviously, that would change if we had a director on both, that would -- we'd probably have to think about how that works and whether that could work. Maybe it could work, maybe it couldn't, but we don't have that situation. And certainly, if somebody turned up with a substantial shareholding in 1 of the 3 directors here turned up with a substantial shareholding that might be different. But look, we've got our own focus, which is this company. We've got a minimum shareholding policy that we all comply with on this company. And we're not actually -- we wish the guys well on the other entity, but that's not our focus.
Thank you, Andrew. And then on to the last question on the online platform. This is asked by Stephen Mayne, and the question relates to the reelection of Mr. Julian Russell as a Director. Could Julian please comment on the history of his relationship with our 2 founders who recently left the Board? What did Julian think of the recent situation at the L1 Group AGM where the 2 controlling shareholders fail to attend, but then use their controlling stake in the company to impose a new constitution on investors despite a material against vote by independent shareholders. If they are going to throw their weight around and vote like this, shouldn't they at least attend L1 AGMs? That's largely a question relating to L1 Group I think, but there might be something in there that you want to respond to.
Yes, sure. I'm happy to respond to the first part because, that's not a matter for an LSF AGM as opposed to L1G AGM. In terms of my relationship with the founders, as I was appointed as Chief Executive Officer of Eclipx Group, was under a lot of pressure. And as a CEO, you need to go out and beat the drums, meet the investors and engage with investors. And so through my initial roadshow on day 2 as CEO in May 2019, I went out, did a roadshow around Melbourne, with the various fund managers down here to start those relationships. As part of that, I came into L1, met Mark at the time, the Head of Research [indiscernible]. And so Mark Landau and Amar, both but invested at the time because [indiscernible] and it's good value at the time. And like for good value investors that came in. And through that process, shareholders, you tend to build the relationships with all shareholders across the group that we had at Eclipx. We had many, many institutional shareholders because it's interesting. And over the time, you sort of build up that relationship, which is part of the role. And that's the extent of it. And now we're fast forward to today, we were colleagues. Any more questions, Nathan?
There are no more online questions.
Okay. Can I just thank Stephen and Stephen for the questions. Hopefully, we've given you some good answers. If not, feel free to follow up after the meeting. Anyway, as there are no further questions, I'd like to thank everybody for their attendance, and I now declare the formal meeting closed. Thank you.
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