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Milestone Scientific Inc. (MLSS) Earnings Call Transcript

November 14, 2025

NYSE American US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies earnings 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

David Waldman executive
#1

Thanks. Morning, everyone — I’m glad you could all be with us for Milestone Scientific’s conference call covering our monetary results for the third quarter of 2025. Joining us are Eric Hines, who serves as Chief Executive Officer, and Keisha Harcum, our Vice President of Finance at Milestone Scientific. Yesterday, after the market closed, the company put out a press release that included our third-quarter 2025 financial results; you can also find it posted on the company’s website. Should you have questions once this call ends, or if you’d like more details regarding the company, reach out to Crescendo Communications by calling 212 to 671 to 1020. Management will now deliver prepared remarks that go over the financial and operational results for the third quarter, which concluded on September 30th, 2025. Prior to beginning, we want to remind all of you that while speaking on this conference call, we might issue forward-looking statements about the timing and financial impact of Milestone’s capacity to carry out its business plan, anticipated revenue, and success in the future; such statements carry a variety of risks and uncertainties and rest on assumptions and evolving judgments concerning future economic, competitive, and market conditions as well as future business decisions, all of which are hard or impossible to forecast with accuracy, and many of which lie outside Milestone’s control. Among the significant factors that might lead actual results to diverge materially from what those forward-looking statements suggest are general economic conditions, a failure to achieve expected revenue growth, changes in our operating expenses, adverse patent rulings, FDA or legal developments, competitive pressures, changes in customer and market requirements and standards, and the risk factors detailed from time to time in Milestone’s periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including without limitation Milestone’s report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024, and Milestone’s report on Form 10-Q for the third quarter ended September 30, 2025. The forward-looking statements made during this call are based upon management’s reasonable belief as of today’s date, November 14th, 2025. Milestone undertakes no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements for any reason. With that, we’ll now turn the call over to Eric Hines, CEO of Milestone Scientific. Please go ahead, Eric.

Eric Hines executive
#2

Thanks, David. Morning, everyone, and I appreciate each of you taking part in today's call. It means a lot that so many individuals have faith in Milestone Scientific, and we're moving forward. In Q3, we kept carrying out our blueprint to create a slimmer, more targeted company that can achieve lasting expansion and better earnings. Thanks to strict expense control and restructuring of operations, our operating costs came down by more than $500,000 versus the equivalent quarter a year ago, all while revenue held steady. What these figures show are the initial gains from our transformation plan, built on 3 key objectives: making operations more efficient and streamlining them, boosting commercial performance across both dental and medical, and pushing ahead with our reimbursement and payer efforts so CompuFlow is positioned for widespread use in pain management. Within dental, we achieved meaningful strides by growing direct sales initiatives across North America and moving forward on international registrations for our STA Single-Tooth Anesthesia System. We've additionally upgraded our omnichannel marketing strengths, and our increasingly mature e-commerce channel kept generating brand awareness and repeat customer involvement. Dental revenue abroad rose compared with a year earlier, helping to partly counterbalance the drop in US sales. Turning to medical, use of CompuFlow disposables ticked up modestly as we begin re-energizing existing customers, reassuring them of our even stronger commitment as we keep pursuing a structured, well-supported Medicare reimbursement approach; we're especially heartened by responses from top pain centers both in the US and abroad that rely on CompuFlow to boost precision, enhance safety, and build trust in epidural procedures. We further bolstered our team by bringing Dr. Dawood Syed onto our board of directors. Dr. Syed ranks among this country's leading authorities on interventional pain management and holds the role of division chief of pain medicine at the University of Kansas Medical Center. Adding him sharpens our clinical and payer know-how and backs our plan to speed up uptake inside hospital systems and integrated pain networks; at the same time, we keep pushing our reimbursement efforts for CompuFlow, and as we mentioned 3 months ago, the system has obtained Medicare payment rate assignments under CPT code 077T across 3 jurisdictions backed by Novitas and First Coast, covering heavily populated states such as New Jersey, Texas, and Florida. We're now leveraging that base, talking with more payers, and broadening our commercial coverage reach, which are vital moves for medical growth over the long haul; to wrap up, Q3 shows disciplined follow-through and real headway on our operational and commercial targets. We've become a more efficient company, our cost base is slimmer, and our strategic goals are tightly concentrated on expansion and profitability. I'd also like to mention that we hope all of you will follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok. Our Instagram handle is the.wan.sta. You can find us on Facebook at thewan.sta, and on TikTok we're at the.wan.sta. We keep investing a great deal of effort into our digital marketing approach across all channels, and we're confident this will help more folks get to know what our organization stands for. With that said, I'll hand things over to Keisha Harcum.

Keisha Harcum executive
#3

Thanks, Eric. For the quarter and the nine-month period that closed on September 30th, 2025, we brought in $2.4 million and $6.9 million in revenue, respectively, versus $2.5 million and $6.6 million during the equivalent stretch of 2024. Gross profit across the nine months that ended September 30, 2025, and 2024 came to roughly $4.9 million in both cases, which means there was no significant change from one year to the next. That steady performance was driven mainly by steady margins on our products, good control over manufacturing costs, and a sales mix that stayed balanced between domestic and international markets; SG&A costs for the three months and the nine months that closed September 30, 2025, came in at $2.7 million and $9 million, respectively. Research and development spending during that same window was $16,000 and $437,000, respectively. Operating expenses totaled roughly $1.1 million and $4.6 million for the three-month and nine-month periods that ended September 30, 2025, respectively. As of September 30, 2025, Milestone Scientific held cash and cash equivalents of about $1.3 million, along with working capital of roughly $3.1 million. That wraps up my financial review. I'll hand the call back to Eric now.

Eric Hines executive
#4

I appreciate that, Keisha. Going ahead, the mission stays straightforward: we need to run things effectively, increase our top line, and set Milestone Scientific up for sustained profitability over time. Our sales operations are being bolstered, the way we interact with customers is getting better, and we're pushing the CompuFlow commercial launch forward via collaborations, working with payers, and educating clinicians. Within dental, we keep drawing on the power of our brand and the ways our products stand apart to fuel expansion abroad and grow repeat business via our direct and e-commerce avenues. The strides achieved in so brief a period make me genuinely proud — cutting costs, bringing revenue to a steadier place, and laying the groundwork for growth down the road. What lies ahead involves executing with discipline, achieving operational excellence, and making sure we keep generating value for shareholders, customers, and patients around the globe. My gratitude goes out to each of you for being on this call, and the lines are now open for your questions.

Anthony Vendetti analyst
#5

Thanks. Eric, from what I can tell, you're putting a lot of emphasis on getting the business steady, and clearly that's a necessary step when someone first steps in. When it comes to the dental side, which still clearly accounts for the overwhelming majority of revenue, in the economic climate we're facing right now, dental offices and dental clinics have always been — at least in my own experience — quite hesitant about putting new capital to work or purchasing new equipment. What's your approach to persuading them that this product is something they truly need? And could you also discuss the clinics you're in at present — is there a target utilization rate, or some method to guarantee a particular level of utilization for your STA unit? Thanks.

Eric Hines executive
#6

Thanks, Anthony. Those are excellent questions. The dental business serves as the company's foundation, correct? When all is said and done, 80% or 90% or perhaps an even greater share of revenues is generated by the dental business. What we're discovering is that customers really fall into three tiers: low users, mid users, and high users, roughly speaking. We genuinely think a major issue for us in the broader marketplace is that, once we shifted to the direct sales e-commerce model, many customers got the impression we had more or less shut down and knew very little about who we are. We're devoting substantial time to genuinely reconnecting with former customers who may have believed we no longer existed, but even more importantly, we're really beginning to grow our digital marketing so we can reach additional dentists. Frequently, when dentists hear from us — whether in my own hometown or when Jason talks with them in Dallas — they aren't even aware of the company or of The Wand at all. Given that we hold 1.5%-2% of the market share domestically, and roughly the same amount internationally, we figure it's largely a matter of spreading awareness and truly communicating to people what The Wand's advantages are. Then there's the other side — education, correct? Getting the low-end users to become high-end users. Usually, we observe that high-end users spend roughly $2,500-$3,000 annually with us on disposables. We have to get the rest of them heading in that same direction. Because of what the unit is called — the STA, or single-tooth anesthesia — what we've come to understand is that plenty of people aren't using it for all the remaining injection types. As I believe most people on this call are aware, The Wand is capable of performing every injection type a dentist requires while running their clinic. We truly must improve at teaching the low and mid-tier users so they grasp this, and so it becomes obvious that The Wand works for far more procedures than single tooth alone. I'm not sure whether that answers your question, Anthony, but let me know.

Anthony Vendetti analyst
#7

Yeah, no, that's excellent. Right now there's a real push to boost how much The Wand gets used among clinics that already have it, plus to spread awareness. As you mentioned, the potential is enormous since penetration remains low at present, despite the fact that it represents most of your revenue; on the medical side, perhaps you chose to concentrate again on the clinics currently employing it and to grow that foundation ahead of wider commercialization. Could you update us on where things stand with that renewed focus, and then what the roadmap looks like for broader commercialization? Will that happen during this quarter, or does it lean more toward being a 2026 objective?

Eric Hines executive
#8

That's another solid question, Anthony. Allow me to add one more point regarding the dental side. Jason presented me with 11 objectives for the dental business going forward from a sales standpoint. Together with education and similar efforts, we have goals to pursue certain dental schools. We have the DSOs included in that blend. We have digital marketing aimed at existing customers. We have lists from our former distributors that we're now beginning to work through and hold conversations with those people; it amounts to a multi-tiered program on the dental side targeting 10 or 11 distinct objectives, DSOs among them. To address your CompuFlow question, and as I mentioned during the previous conference call, my impression upon entering this role was that we had many initiatives pulling in many directions. Essentially, the strategy now is to direct our efforts toward a limited number of states, a limited number of jurisdictions, but more crucially, to establish the proper structure to assist physicians once they begin using CompuFlow. Even more crucially, it involves gathering data in an extremely rigorous manner so we can present it to the Medicare people regarding reimbursement. We also intend to pursue the commercial aspect of that equation. In parallel with Medicare, we also intend to examine at least one, perhaps a couple, of the commercial payers to determine whether we can gain some momentum there too. While all of that is underway, we'll begin to take on perhaps one additional jurisdiction. Once more, the strategy is to remain as focused as we can. I'm somewhat restraining things until we complete a proper assessment of the business case, or the value proposition, for pain management. As you remember, we initially went down the labor and delivery path before pivoting toward pain management. I want to ensure we have a clear message for the pain management clinics, since the value proposition differs somewhat from labor and delivery, where fluoroscopy isn't utilized.

Anthony Vendetti analyst
#9

All right, excellent. I just want to confirm — we're concentrating on the territories in Texas, Florida, and New Jersey, is that right?

Eric Hines executive
#10

That's right. The two MACs backing those three territories are Novitas and First Coast.

Anthony Vendetti analyst
#11

It might be premature to comment, yet regarding the schedule — you mentioned gathering that data, coordinating with Medicare, and confirming reimbursement details. Would that take 6 to 12 months, or where do things stand right now concerning your outlook for when wider commercialization will begin? Can you provide any clarity on that currently?

Eric Hines executive
#12

Yes, so broad adoption is difficult, though we intend to relaunch the program within the coming handful of weeks. We're conducting substantial due diligence quietly with individuals possessing considerable expertise in that field; and we're preparing ourselves to be positioned to re-roll out CompuFlow. The sooner we gather data, the faster we can move toward a bigger commercial rollout. Once more, we simply must be — I don't have an issue with people wanting to use it. The greater issue is ensuring those who begin using it send the correct information back to Medicare.

Anthony Vendetti analyst
#13

All right, that makes sense. I appreciate you taking the time. I’ll jump back on with you shortly. Thank you.

David Waldman executive
#14

Thank you, Anthony.

Bruce Jackson analyst
#15

Hello, and good morning. I appreciate you taking my question. I'd like to briefly address the tariffs. During the prior quarter, you mentioned that regarding your supply chain, you were in a fairly solid position. Inventory was held in the States, and for international accounts, kits are shipped from China. Has anything shifted on that front over the course of this quarter? And second, when it comes to international customers, has the present situation caused them to alter how they make purchases?

Eric Hines executive
#16

That's a solid question. Thank you, Bruce. When it comes to the tariffs, honestly, the impact we're experiencing is minimal. As you pointed out, we have the capability to ship internationally out of China in order to sidestep that, plus ample supply in North America to serve our business in this region. The impact we're seeing is not particularly significant. On the matter of altered behavior, we would prefer to see additional customers placing orders originating from China. It's come in somewhat weaker than we'd hoped. We're looking into possibly establishing a bonded warehouse in the U.S. should the tariffs keep lingering, which would let us ship from the U.S. and/or China. The tariffs aren't really producing a massive impact for us.

Bruce Jackson analyst
#17

All right, that's excellent. Regarding the US marketing push, do you have any perspective on the sales team or how it's put together? For instance, are there reimbursement specialists among your staff? Give us some detail on how the salesforce is being organized and what your current thinking is about it.

Eric Hines executive
#18

That's a good one too. When it comes to reimbursement, previous attempts on the dental side didn't work out; we've mentioned briefly that we'd like to secure a pediatric code tied to the pediatric use case. We keep going back and forth about whether to pursue the reimbursement market in dental, since the expense involved is clearly substantial and it can be tough. On the sales organization front, our intention is to keep scaling it up. A small number of individuals are handling this locally. We're eager to bring more strength to the dental team. Several programs we have could widen our sales reach quite substantially across North America. I expect there will be additional details to share over the next few weeks.

Bruce Jackson analyst
#19

All right. Then that's my final question. Regarding your sales, do you see a seasonal trend in which the fourth quarter tends to be a particularly strong one for you? When we examine the model, ought we to anticipate a rise in revenue during the fourth quarter?

Eric Hines executive
#20

That's amusing. I previously worked in the software industry, and Q4 always brought us that hockey stick. The pattern was that we pushed everything into Q4, followed by a weak Q1, a strong Q2, a weak Q3, and then an enormous Q4. In this case, things appear to be quite different. It's extremely consistent. I believe our order was Q4, Q2, Q4. For Q4, we anticipate a comparable quarter. There's no actual massive inflection in Q4; this is a fairly consistent business, which is fantastic; we would be delighted to see it tick up. We anticipate a quarter comparable to those we've experienced previously, or no significant large hockey stick.

Bruce Jackson analyst
#21

Alright, I understand. Thanks so much.

Eric Hines executive
#22

Thanks.

Analyst analyst
#23

Thanks. Morning, Mr. Hines. It's a pleasure listening to what you presented today. I've held shares in Milestone Scientific for the long haul — 15 years at minimum, I'd say. If you'll allow me, I'd like to offer the view of someone who's been invested for that long, and I might add, someone who's suffered, since my optimism has repeatedly been crushed by developments that could have brought rising revenues, positive cash flow, and positive earnings for Milestone. I doubt you'd have accepted this position without believing in the product, the way I do. My own dentist relies on STA and has administered it to me — a fantastic product. Receiving an injection the way I did with STA was simply wonderful. I make an effort to join each quarterly call. Years back, I began by speaking with Leonard Osser, and he was as enthusiastic about your products as I am. When Milestone won FDA approval and my expectations soared, that marked the start of a decline that caught me completely off guard. From then on, the balance sheet has been devastated. There was a point when I felt, "I truly understand where Milestone was headed." These days I feel adrift. Milestone's direction is unclear to me. What the obstacles or resistance have been, I don't know. You see, I have no idea. How many pain clinics employ this, I couldn't tell you. What clinicians or doctors say in response, I couldn't tell you either. Could you give me that kind of perspective — where things stand, and what you see as the possibilities for Milestone Scientific, and where those dramatic possibilities might lie? CompuFlow, clearly, but what's happening that we went from 10 salesmen to no salesmen to, when your predecessor finished, inching along trying to get 100 cases authorized for payment? To me it looks like the cart may have come before the horse here, though I'm not certain. Perhaps you could shed light on what I'm missing and offer me some hope for Milestone's future, from where you sit.

Eric Hines executive
#24

Thank you, John. Welcome to the club, right? I've held shares since 2018, a fairly substantial investment in the company. Like you, I've been tracking it, though not for as long as you. Your history with it definitely runs much deeper than mine. I'm grateful that you keep supporting Milestone, and for your patience, and hopefully for the future perseverance of the organization. To address what you asked, again, what I've seen during the few months I've spent here is, above all, we have fantastic technology, right? The STA, as you brought up, the dynamic pressure sensing capabilities that extend to the CompuFlow unit as well — our technology is what it is, right? That hasn't changed. From my perspective, looking at Milestone's history—and this pattern shows up in other businesses I've put money into as well—it seems like the company was likely built around research, generating plenty of inventions, patents, and intellectual property. Where it came up short, from what I can tell, at least previously, was lacking genuine sales leadership capable of pushing the execution and discipline needed to properly scale and expand an enterprise, correct? During the CompuFlow launch and similar efforts, the strategy was somewhat scattershot—generating significant buzz and heavy product usage—yet no real infrastructure existed to sustain that momentum, and things essentially began unraveling, right? Our current approach involves pulling back slightly—not dramatically—and adopting a far more disciplined strategy aimed at a specific, narrow set of customers, alongside assistance with Medicare reimbursement, enabling a well-executed launch capable of scaling. That pretty much sums it up. The technology is excellent. Sales performance has been weak. The necessary framework for a scalable, lasting operation simply was never established. Regarding your cart-before-the-horse comment, I'm insisting we establish an ROI, a plan, and a strategy prior to entering the market. Entering the medical sector means dealing with something highly complex and deeply political. Numerous factors are in play. Without proper preparation, you risk landing in a difficult, unsustainable position. My request is simply that you remain patient. I recognize you've been involved for 15 years. Once again, we value your backing. This time, we'll do things properly.

Analyst analyst
#25

Hey Eric. Nice work on an excellent quarter — the strongest we've seen in quite a while. Here's hoping that momentum keeps going. What I want to ask follows the same thread you were just addressing with Anthony Vendetti and, a moment ago, with John. I'd like to understand why, across the years, we had so many trials and demos that went well, with amazing responses from the folks involved. Why did none of that ever turn into revenue? And then second, like you've been attempting to lay out, what makes this time different? Thanks.

Eric Hines executive
#26

Yes. One of the major shifts, and honestly it's a bit odd that nobody raises this point, is this: we have Dr. D'Amazman, an early adopter, correct? He's been fantastic, in my view. He keeps using the product. Plenty of customers around him in New Jersey are still using it as well; on top of that, we brought in some truly capable, gifted individuals — Chanthea Gillingham and, more recently, Dr. Syed — who've been giving us guidance, at least to some degree, over these last few weeks. Our expectation is that having them with us, steering us through such a complicated landscape, will let us do this with far greater focus. And I don't mean to criticize the previous team, who gave their best effort and worked incredibly hard, but moving from category three up to category one is genuinely intricate. That process is really tough, and it demands generating a large amount of data so you can secure the correct reimbursement code number, which is what makes physicians willing to adopt your solution — because then they can turn a profit. To restate the point, we're pulling back; we're gathering input from numerous physicians, involving that community, and bringing in businesses with deep expertise in that same community so this gets done properly, letting us begin in a highly targeted manner, produce the data required, obtain reimbursement at the level we need, and afterward pursue a broader commercial launch across some weeks or months. That's essentially the whole story. People sometimes assume you simply head out and sell aggressively, trusting it'll catch on. What I've come to realize is that in this space, that approach fails. Data is essential. Structure is essential. Every one of those pieces has to be ready. Given the board we've got now, our intention is to rely on them to guide us through that complicated infrastructure — specifically Medicare.

Analyst analyst
#27

All right. That's great. Wonderful. My follow-up is completely unrelated. It's simply regarding our position on capital and cash. I understand we managed to save $500,000 during this year. How much further can we keep going? Will we be needing capital? Thank you; that's all from me.

Eric Hines executive
#28

No. Appreciate it, Elliot, for that second question. When I first came into this company, my main priority was gaining control over costs, correct? We've managed that reasonably well. There's still additional room for us to improve there. On the revenue side of things, I'm kind of shifting the engines somewhat toward sales. As I mentioned, I've been restraining a very powerful horse named Jason Papes, who is here with us. The intention is to push the sales engines to maximum power very soon. From a cash standpoint, this company holds ample cash to continue operating for multiple quarters; we're constantly reviewing ways to strengthen that should the need arise. At present, the company is in solid condition.

Analyst analyst
#29

Okay, thanks a lot, Eric. Hopefully there's additional positive news coming from your side before long. Thanks again.

Eric Hines executive
#30

Thanks, Elliot. I appreciate that.

Eric Hines executive
#31

Well, I just want to say thanks to everyone for being here on this call. It means a lot to me that the shareholders are part of this community and have stayed with us. I feel the same way most of you do. That's part of what drew me to this company. I can't express enough how positive I feel about hearing from so many different shareholders. What I'll leave you with is this: everything I do, each and every day, is focused on driving shareholder value. For me, it's about whatever I can possibly do. I tell the whole team that we have to become an organization centered on sales. Whatever your role is — product management, R&D, customer service, and so on — always consider how it can help sales, how it can help our customers, and ultimately, how it can help our shareholders. Thank you so much. David, thank you for arranging the call. We look forward to talking with all of you at the end of Q4. Good luck to everyone.

Operator operator
#32

Thanks. That wraps up today's call, everyone. At this point you're free to hang up, and we appreciate your joining us.

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